Down nostalgia lane with Arjun Kirloskar

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Dear Friends,

After writing a post on another thread about the ongoing, and often acerbic comparisons between Shakti Arora's Onir and Rithwik's Arjun as they both are at present, I went on a sort of nostalgia trip about Arjun in the old days. I dug into my old PR files, for being technologically challenged, I had no idea then, in April 2012, how to save IF coordinates for individual posts.

I found the texts of my posts on two of my all time favourite scenes of Arjun's - the one with Aashana, and the one at the mandir the day he is to leave for Canada and he accidentally meets Purvi there , which was to my mind,better even than the airport scene. I do not know how many of you read these posts at that time, and if you did, whether you remember them. I enjoyed going back to those days so much that I am taking the liberty of reproducing both these posts for those of you who might be interested. I hope there will be many among us who would love to remember both Arjun as he was just 8 months ago, and how superb Rithwik can be when he gets the chance.

It makes me weep to see what he has been reduced to now, and this proves anew how vital it is to have the script support the actor, even a very good one, showcase his real strengths and camouflage his weak points.. This applies,of course, both to Rithwik then and to Shakti now. Rithwik then was charming, dashing, impulsive and passionate. Shakti now is controlled and serene, and subtle and nuanced in his underplayed acting, especially the way he uses his eyes. Each is, at his best, a delight to watch. Think of what it would be like if they were allowed to be both at their best together!

It is not necessary to run down any one actor to boost another. But it is the best scenes of any actor that show us what he or she is capable of when pushed to the limit - Rithwik then, Shakti and Asha now. We should be grateful for these virtuoso displays, whoever makes them, and enjoy them individually.

And, like Oliver Twist, ask our Mr. Bumble - Ekta Kapoor - Please ma'am, may I have some more?

I am now going back to my hibernation, which is probably going to cause a collective sigh of relief!😉 Before pushing off, I want to warmly thank all those who, perhaps for old times' sake, read my latest post in unprecedented numbers, and participated in such a very lively discussion on that thread. I cannot tell you how touched I am.

Warm regards.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

ARJUN AND AASHANA

Sashashyam: Posted: 14 April 2012 at 4:05am | IP Logged

It was truly an amazingly good double episode on Friday. The CVs seemed to have woken up and done a surprisingly good job of practically all the different sections. They have also avoided the usual cliches of a drunken car crash and the like to resolve the Arjun-Purvi impasse, and also that of Arjun's inability to understand his own feelings. The way in which they have materialised Aashana's spirit is a wonderful device, and it plays out in a fabulously acted scene.

Of course the tour de force of yesterday's double episode was this scene between Arjun and his mother. It was incredibly moving - Arjun's raw anguish, and his feeling of being lost, with the whole world against him, he knows not why., come through so clearly that your throat aches with empathy.

Rithvik is a very resourceful actor, with an incredibly nuanced range of expressions - wrenching anguish as shown yesterday, the Devdas look, the one like a lost puppy wanting to be claimed and loved, which he has when he is standing at Purvi's doorstep in the precap shown yesterday, the heart-in-his-eyes look as when he stands leaning against his car watching Purvi go into the house (after picking her up from the roadside bench and bringing her home), and a very sweet smile that appears but rarely. He is the mainstay of the ArVi pairing, for Asha Negi, while competent and very charming when she is laughing, seems to have just one rather scared, frozen look in all her emotional scenes. it remains to be seen how she copes when Purvi really falls in love with Arjun. In the precap yesterday she looks more dismayed at seeing Arjun than anything else. There was no reaction to the strain and worry in his emotionally battered face. One hopes she will be better in the scene than in the precap.

Though he is almost uniformly good, yesterday Rithvik surpassed himself. The slurred agony in his voice when he talks to his father, the bitter helplessness when he clings to his mother's hands and seeks answers to the puzzles of the heart that plague him - " When she cries, it pains me, I do not know why", which sums up the whole essence of love - this is acting at a level that is practically unknown in TV. It was wonderful to watch him even as tears of sympathy filled my eyes.

At the end of the scene, when he looks at himself in the mirror, with a stray tear trickling down one cheek, and smiles, very slowly and very slightly, as the realisation of what he feels for Purvi finally comes to him, his face displays shades of emotion that are so nuanced that they are mindblowing. One forgets the actor and thinks only of the character, finally freed from gut-wrenching doubt and confusion. That is of course the final triumph for any actor.

ARJUN MEETS PURVI AT THE MANDIR THE DAY HE IS TO LEAVE FOR CANADA

sashashyam: Posted: 25 April 2012 at 11:24am | IP Logged

Exquisite Arjun-Purvi scene

While Purvi is going to meet Arjun at the airport only in tomorrow's episode (it seems to be quite dark, and so it is probably an early morning flight), today's PR episode had an incredibly sweet and moving scene between Arjun and Purvi that is perhaps the best I have ever seen on Indian TV. Those who have already seen the episode will, I am sure, agree with me. This post is really for the benefit of those who have not seen it.

It is at the mandir. Arjun has just finished tying the bell on the tree when he hears the temple sevak, who had earlier given him his bell, talking to Purvi. Purvi tries to leave without attracting his attention, but he goes after her and tells her that there is no need for her to go away like this.

He knows that she is trying to stay away from him, but he is in any case leaving India and going far away from her. All his life, he had been able to get whatever he wanted, but this was the one time when his heart had sought something that he was unable to give it. He thanked Purvi for having made him realise that he was not God, and that he could not have everything he wanted. Aise thode hi hota hai ! He could not force her to love him, but neither could he stop himself from loving her.

He was going away, but he would never forget this place and all this - he means India - for it had given him the most beautiful gift of his life. "You". He thanks her profusely, saying that the happiness she had given him was more than he had ever experienced before.

He had wanted - and here he smiles, saying 'selfish hoon na' - to meet her once more before leaving, just to see her one last time. Today had been a good day for him, since he had been able to meet her here.

He then tells her that some people from the office would be coming to meet her the next day; he had executed a Power of Attorney in her favour and made over the control of the company to her (so that she could run it in his absence) because there was no one else here whom he could trust.

At this point, the CVs give Purvi, who is otherwise looking stricken and ready to cry any second, a fit of foot in the mouth. She says, in her standard abrupt tone, that though she has worked in the company for some years, she has her principles (usool), and she cannot depart from them. I do not know what she was supposed to mean.

Arjun responds by saying that her problem was with him, and now that he would no longer be there to trouble her and torture her, there was no need for her to leave the company. He was sure she would look after it well.

He then tells her to take care of herself and turns to go. Purvi stands there as if turned to stone, and watches as Arjun turns at the car door for one last look at her, and then is driven off. Purvi is still standing there wiping a tear from her face.

You would agree that this is an incredibly generous speech. I was particularly struck by how hard he tries to make sure that Purvi does not feel guilty for not loving him.

Now the above is as close to a transcription of the scene as I could manage without watching the episode once again. However, the text gives NO idea of how wonderfully enacted it was. Mindblowing. Arjun is pitch perfect while making this speech - and it is practically a monologue, for Purvi never says anything except that once. He never becomes maudlin or excessively sentimental , while every shade of expression in his face, and every tone change in his voice, reinforce the pathos of what he cannot help feeling for her. He is self-deprecating and avoids the slightest note of tragedy, but that makes it all sadder to watch.

Purvi does not have as much scope, for the scene practically belongs to Arjun. But she pitches in well too despite this limitation. At the beginning, when he comes up to her, she looks hunted and ready to run away. But as the scene unfolds, her face looks more and more stricken and anguished; she does not know what to say or do in the face of a love so deep and so unselfish, and that comes thru clearly.

All in all, it was a tour de force; a very difficult scene made to seem easy. It went straight to one's heart. Rithwik was truly a revelation; my throat was choked when the scene ended.

You know, normally I can clearly distinguish between the actor(s) and the character(s), and I assess their performances dispassionately. But this time, when that scene ended and he had left, I completely forgot that these were imaginary people who do not exist in real life. And I thought "How lucky can Purvi get?".

To be loved like this - so deeply and passionately, and yet with such unselfishness and demanding absolutely nothing in return - is something that very, very few mortals get, and it is something for which one should thank God on one's knees. Whatever happens to them in the future, whatever the heartache and loss they have to go through, the realisation of this love will stay with her and warm her heart. And I hope the realisation that she has been granted something very rare and precious will make her trust him implicitly and not make life more difficult for him when the storms that lie ahead start blowing in gale force. She should stand by him, and be his strength, not his weakness.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


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Thank U for your Post. Arjun is a powerful actor that why I am too much attached this serial. Honestly told that I saw more than 12 years in Indian TV serial. Very first episode I saw this PR. But many reason continue not see this PR. Many episode I missing. Especially how Varsha turn negative, how Baishali & vandita spent their live. I also not member that time when Sushant left the show. I am totally surprised when Hiten entry of Manav role. After 18 years leap I am too interested this serial for only Arjun & Purvi character whose protryed by RD & Asha Negi. I am totally surprised their acting. That time to till I am too much concerned their.

I am happy when they are happy, I am helpless when they face miserable life.Now a days this CVs totally butchered their character. If they think this is twist what type of twist this to character butchered. Why they are making Arjun a woman, why they make him cry always???I want that Khadoos Arjun back he stand his own feet. This is true that Shakti is good actor but why he is too much presence when Arjun is lead character except ARMAN. This is totally unfair. Now a days If shati presence 95% time & only 1 or 2 minutes we saw Arjun who are all time helpless people. WHY??? Is not totally unfair & wasting RD's talent. Is it Arjun a simple character?

If shakti leading character then not this PR? Need another serial who is only lead character not also there include RD. If Arjun not lead character then why they saw us Arjun is lead character & making loving him too much. This is totally unfair. We want ARVI back & firstly restore Arjun first like a man whom we have seen before. No more waste RD talent. He faces many problem his life. Very first he lost mother. After that when he find actual love with Purvi then she reject that marriage. Because her true love Purvi also face same problem when her sister ovi deal their mother love. Purvi is orphan that why she easily trap that deal.Purvi feels that she owes so much to the Deshmukhs.. Primarily Archana since she gave her a home and love even though she was an orphan. When she was with Archana these 18 years all Archu talked about was how much she wanted her family back.. Now that her family is back she somehow feels obligated to make sure they are always happy.. She always blames herself for Ovi's unhappiness...

After that all time ovi's bad behavior Purvi forced to leave Bombay. Later we know that Purvi was pregnant that time. So she avoid this painful things. From the start Purvi is thinking about Archu's happiness. Purvi doesn't want any more sadness in Archu's life even it is through Ovi's health state.

After 6 moths when no one know Purvi's whereabout then both ARMAN find Purvi at kolkata & also know that she married. Also know that onir is her husband. They try to onir treatment ovi but onir refused. But Purvi help her parents. Purvi doing all these to keep Archu happy. Purvi is exact replica of Archu. so correcting her is not so easy. Manav also not any time stand Arjun & Purvi. For Ovi he is using other. when Purvi loved Arjun, it was very sinful for him. but when Purvi sacrificed her love and mother for Ovi, he felt its great and said goodbye. he talks caring about Purvi to Archu but never stood by Purvi's side when it comes Ovi or Purvi. He stands by Ovi, even though he knows Ovi is wrong. Manav now thinks about Purvi because his doll Ovi's life is in Purvi's husband hand. they had Purvi's address in hand. why Manav use his influence to find Purvi?

If Purvi is not orphan then all D family very much concern to her. But ovi is their blood so they too much concern her but not Purvi. That why all time Purvi thinking that family. I am 100% sure if any family member know that ovi's baby died then they demand to Purvi handover her baby to ovi. This CVs all time try to prove that Once an orphan always an orphan. This serial all time try to prove that Evil always wins, The loser. She lost her family, baby and love. That why I am not able to angry Purvi for her baby donation.

That why Purvi is not able to stand Arjun. Arjun all time try to stand by Purvi
through thick and thin. They all time feelings each other. They not forget any moment each other.

Both Arjun & Purvi face huge suffer for loving each other. Their love is pure love. They made each other. No other person not understand their properly anytime. We all time saw that how ARVI feeling each other. Enough is enough.

Ovi is to be blamed for all the happenings in her life. She blackmailed and schemed to get what she wanted & thus, is the reason why Purvi and Arjun aren't together!

Now this is the right time to Baby's truth revealed & united each other for their baby sake. Also true love sake ARVI need united this time.

"Like a rainbow after the rain, there's always a good thing after the pain"

Hope Aunty U understand my point.


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awsome post .. i miss old arjun purvi scenes alot😭... they were treat to watch...grrr now look what cv's have done to such a beautiful pair😡... i always have and i always will love arvi no matter what... arjun's charctr was very promising at startng ... i have startd watchng pr just for arjun purvi ...i loved khadoos arjun alot and still some how i have hope that cv's might give us our old arjun back... arjun purvi's charctrs took 360 degrees turn.. arjun was strong sucessfull indipendent business tycoon now he is devdas and purvi was strong fighter independent girl and now she is mahan devta ... grrr i dont like this purvi ... i hope v get old arjun purvi back
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Originally posted by: aathya

awsome post .. i miss old arjun purvi scenes alot😭... they were treat to watch...grrr now look what cv's have done to such a beautiful pair😡... i always have and i always will love arvi no matter what... arjun's charctr was very promising at startng ... i have startd watchng pr just for arjun purvi ...i loved khadoos arjun alot and still some how i have hope that cv's might give us our old arjun back... arjun purvi's charctrs took 360 degrees turn.. arjun was strong sucessfull indipendent business tycoon now he is devdas and purvi was strong fighter independent girl and now she is mahan devta ... grrr i dont like this purvi ... i hope v get old arjun purvi back


u r rite girl!!!!

arjun is was and will be very promising character...

he showed us all the emotions of human beings...

he was first Khadoos, then he was in process of being a good human being,caring about others n his closeones's his new found friend purvi, then his realisation of love, being dejected when not accepted in love, the happiness when u get the person u loves truly, the confusion whether to think about the family reputation, his friend's feelings or the love of his life, then his mission on proving his self, joy of going to get married to his love , his life, his anger when his love left him for her aai,

then him wanting to give his marriage a try, caring for purvi's sacrifise, when his love left him for ever, when he saw her married to other and still counting...

Arjun Kirloskar is a true Hero..

he could have easily left ovi n got purvi ,but when purvi told him to follow his heart, he then told her.

""Agar main woh karun jo mera dil kehta hain toh yeh tumhara paarivar bikhar jaayega "

but he also cared for his Idol his friend to whom he got married, purvi n her family,,hence he has been suffering in Silence since then as the people who claim to love him or care about him always asks him to do thing for them selves but neglect his feeling
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u r rite girl!!!!

arjun is was and will be very promising character...

he showed us all the emotions of human beings...

he was first Khadoos, then he was in process of being a good human being,caring about others n his closeones's his new found friend purvi, then his realisation of love, being dejected when not accepted in love, the happiness when u get the person u loves truly, the confusion whether to think about the family reputation, his friend's feelings or the love of his life, then his mission on proving his self, joy of going to get married to his love , his life, his anger when his love left him for her aai,

then him wanting to give his marriage a try, caring for purvi's sacrifise, when his love left him for ever, when he saw her married to other and still counting...

Arjun Kirloskar is a true Hero..

he could have easily left ovi n got purvi ,but when purvi told him to follow his heart, he then told her.

""Agar main woh karun jo mera dil kehta hain toh yeh tumhara paarivar bikhar jaayega "

but he also cared for his Idol his friend to whom he got married, purvi n her family,,hence he has been suffering in Silence since then as the people who claim to love him or care about him always asks him to do thing for them selves but neglect his feeling



Superb Post. I agree with U all your comment. I also post this thread. I feel many thing missing that post. Need to support Arjun. But I am not able how to write. Your comment also my feeling. Thank U so Much.

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Originally posted by: crazygirl4RD


u r rite girl!!!!

arjun is was and will be very promising character...

he showed us all the emotions of human beings...

he was first Khadoos, then he was in process of being a good human being,caring about others n his closeones's his new found friend purvi, then his realisation of love, being dejected when not accepted in love, the happiness when u get the person u loves truly, the confusion whether to think about the family reputation, his friend's feelings or the love of his life, then his mission on proving his self, joy of going to get married to his love , his life, his anger when his love left him for her aai,

then him wanting to give his marriage a try, caring for purvi's sacrifise, when his love left him for ever, when he saw her married to other and still counting...

Arjun Kirloskar is a true Hero..

he could have easily left ovi n got purvi ,but when purvi told him to follow his heart, he then told her.

""Agar main woh karun jo mera dil kehta hain toh yeh tumhara paarivar bikhar jaayega "

but he also cared for his Idol his friend to whom he got married, purvi n her family,,hence he has been suffering in Silence since then as the people who claim to love him or care about him always asks him to do thing for them selves but neglect his feeling

well said saddo... exactly hatsoff to RD yar .. RD showd many variations in his acting from angry young man to kind human being then lover boy then the boy who lost his love then devdas and now to a matured person... kudos to RD👏... since his marrege to ovi , arjun is the one who has been suffuring alot mentally but still he is trying to maintain a smile on his face ... and from past few episodes his acting has been bang on ... we can c the pain of loosing purvi in his eyes... RD is the actor who can make us feel what arjun has been feeling... again kudos to RD👏 ... its very tough for arjun to c purvi with other person but still he is thinking about her happiness thats true love ...i seriusly hope arjun's charctr gets what he deservs... his love his life his purvi
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Originally posted by: aathya

well said saddo... exactly hatsoff to RD yar .. RD showd many variations in his acting from angry young man to kind human being then lover boy then the boy who lost his love then devdas and now to a matured person... kudos to RD👏... since his marrege to ovi , arjun is the one who has been suffuring alot mentally but still he is trying to maintain a smile on his face ... and from past few episodes his acting has been bang on ... we can c the pain of loosing purvi in his eyes... RD is the actor who can make us feel what arjun has been feeling... again kudos to RD👏 ... its very tough for arjun to c purvi with other person but still he is thinking about her happiness thats true love ...i seriusly hope arjun's charctr gets what he deservs... his love his life his purvi



Super Post. We all ARVAN many days demand to CVs that we want our real hero Khadoos Boss Arjun Return. I dont like the current track. This track is totally horrible, stupid & nonsense. This track butchered ARVI character too much. This track make ARVI character too much hell. Who are not like ARVI they all time bashing their character. They all time told that they are lust, but actually not true. Is this deserve ARVI character who love each other & their love is pure? why CVs are making Arjun a woman??why they make him cry always?? Why giving him just 1 min time onscreen??? we want Arvi back. But restore Arjun first like a man whom we have seen before. Enough is enough. Stop this nonsense track & butchering their character.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Shyamala: You know how very much I love your posts. They are just too good. I haven't had the time though for the last few weeks to visit this forum. And when I visit I do look out for you and some other friends whose posts I enjoy reading.
I truly miss Arjun and Purvi of the good old days. I used to eagerly look forward to their scenes which used to be relatively short but oh so sweet. I like Onir but will never ever like him like I do Arjun/RD. I just adore this guy, Arjun. As for purvi I don't think I can forgive her, ever. The last straw which broke the camel's back was when she gave away that adorable innocent baby, shame on you Purvi.
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My dear Namita,

We are all in the same boat as far as Arjun and Purvi are concerned, are we not? I do not know what to say about all that has been happening. As I wrote above to ashfaque, none of us can ever forgive Purvi for what she has done to Arjun. The worst of it is that the poor sap is still worshipping at Saint Purvi's shrine, so who are we to complain?

Why the baby alone, she will give away anyone and anything when she chooses to do so, without as much as a by your leave. I always held that there is, in every love affair, one who loves and one who is loved, and no prizes for guessing who is what here! This point recurs in the last para of my second post here, about the mandir scene.
Alas, she was not to be his strength, as I had hoped but a crippling weakness that has all but done him in. But then he was never the first or even the 11th in her list of priorities.

I think she is going to destroy Onir as well now, poor chap, or at least damage him seriously.He is not a young man in love, you see. He is someone who was perfectly happy with his patients and his idealism, till one day this girl came along and turned his well ordered world topsy turvy. When love hits an otherwise unlikely candidate like that, it hits him very hard. Now he cannot bear to see her unhappy, and that warps his judgement, and makes him do things he should not have touched with a bargepole.

The woman in a regular demolition machine, who does nothing but damage the men unfortunate enough to fall in love with her. First it was Arjun, now it is Onir. Both of them should rue the day they ever set eyes on her, but of course neither will do so. Instead, both will follow her around like tame poodles, and pander to every insane demand of hers, whatever the cost to themselves.

Oh well, what is the use of all these laments? Take care, dear Namita, and stay in touch. I have practically given up posting here,but this week, I had to do the redemption one three days ago, and then this was a nostalgia trip. I am glad you enjoyed it. I am going off now for a while, primarily to rest my sore wrist.

Warm regards.

Shyamala

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Hi Shyamala: You know how very much I love your posts. They are just too good. I haven't had the time though for the last few weeks to visit this forum. And when I visit I do look out for you and some other friends whose posts I enjoy reading.

I truly miss Arjun and Purvi of the good old days. I used to eagerly look forward to their scenes which used to be relatively short but oh so sweet. I like Onir but will never ever like him like I do Arjun/RD. I just adore this guy, Arjun. As for purvi I don't think I can forgive her, ever. The last straw which broke the camel's back was when she gave away that adorable innocent baby, shame on you Purvi.

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Hey Shymala Aunty hows you first of all?
Well Aunty i love your each n every post bcoz reason is that no one can beat you in words with your great literature experience,Coming back to Arjun's character i am finding really hard that how ekta has punished this character alot where the guy when he landed from Canada to Mumbai that time was marvellous.

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