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"Anger has enormous costs. The impulse that felt so right at the moment, so justified, becomes in the quiet hours another source of guilt and regret. What seemed so worthy of blame passes. What remains are the scars, the hurt, and the alienation."

"If you are often angry, every one of your relationships may be affected."

"Children who experience [abuse] as a child are often traumatized and carry huge reservoirs of grief and anger into adulthood" and for victims of childhood trauma, "getting in touch with the victimized child's anger is a major step in the recovery process."

"Chronic anger does not make you strong and safe. It weakens you. "

"There are two kinds of anger: anger at yourself and anger directed at others."

These quotes are from the book "When Anger Hurts: Quieting the Storm Within." It's one of the best books written on anger and is often used to teach many Anger Management Curriculums. These quotes are also very applicable when it comes to anger among the Khan family.

Anger is at the core of Asad Ahmed Khan. He definitely lives a life suffering from dreadful incidents of childhood trauma. Abandoned by his father, forced to choose between his father and mother, the loss of a younger sibling, and pressured to support his mother and sister from a young age; he has tried to compensate for these losses and hardships. He has strived to be the best be it in business, in his home, with his body, his mannerisms etc. However, none of these steps towards perfection have healed his inner wounds. If anything, what he has kept pent up inside is now exploding left right and center. His anger reflects in his aggression towards Zoya and has now escalated to such heights as a no-hesitation or no-hold back attempt to shoot his own father. Asad's good fortune has been that Zoya has forgiven him, a move I still question as far from acceptable. She has allowed herself to remain vulnerable and open to his anger as means to heal it - an unwise and horribly dangerous decision if Asad fails to take ownership of his anger and uses it to continually vent at her.

His father, Rashid, also suffers from his own anger issues. His anger is one that has turned inwards at himself for his pathetic attempt to allow himself to be victimized at the hands of Razia because of his own fears and internal weakness. He silently suffers but now this passive-aggressive individual has exploded with rage. His inability to control his explosive anger causes him grab hold of Razia's throat and almost chokes her to death. Had his family not been there, Rashid would most definitely have had blood on his hands. He has endured his own trauma of losing his wife and children and helplessly watch them endure many hardships while he has remained silent out of fear of going to jail or anything worse falling on his family. Yet at the same time he has romanced a woman in that 17 years whom he claimed he does not love. Surely the guilt must get to him? He is now a weakened man who's internal anger at himself for his wrongdoings and passivity as turned him into a person he despises.

Dilshaad pretends she is not angry; but her anger, like her husband's, eats at her every day. Deep inside she suffers as the loyal wife waiting patiently for her husband to return. For seventeen years she has had to agonize that her loved one is in arms of another woman. Despite this horrible betrayal, she loves and trusts her husband. The sight of her son ready to doubt the man she loves, whom she has waited so patiently to return, tears her inside and she lashes out at him in anger and wham, slaps him hard. She cares nothing of humiliating her grown son, and that too in front of his sister and future wife. How demeaning it must be for a grown man to be treated so. Dilshaad, the epitome of grace and composure, allows her anger to take control and reduces herself to that of insensitive woman who vents physically. It was a huge disappointment to see the CVs reduce her character to this level. Her anger cannot be denied but her expression of it was not justified or welcomed. Unless the writers are willing to address how her own anger has reduced her to this level (and I doubt the writers are ever willing to go there), this behavior serves no purpose.

So much anger and so much hurt can lead to a very heavy price. The interpersonal costs of anger are great and all three have put on their emotional armor in preparation for the next show down. Their anger has cut them off from feeling genuine closeness and a chance for reconciliation with each other and others outside of their circle. In order of any chance of amending, each person must take ownership of their anger and start talking and expressing how they really feel towards each other'unless the three can express their hurt and betrayal, there is little chance for understanding and a future.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey Laila,
Lovely post here. You've captured the crux of how anger has impacted these characters beautifully.

Anger needs to be expressed. If not, it can manifest in other forms that can do more damage to the individual and those around.


Asad's anger manifests in his need to be in control, in his inability to look beyond the obvious and inability to trust anyone else's judgement. In a way, he expects the worst in people, except those close to him and those he trusts. His obsessive compulsive behaviour is his need to be in control, cos he had very little control over his early life. If he'd behaved calmly, the events would have turned out different.

I don't know if I'd label Rashid as passive aggressive unless you're looking at certain behaviours like considering himself the victim, self pity, helplessness, then yes I guess it's fine. I think Rashid is a man without hope, and he's responsible for the muck he got himself into. Only he doesn't want to see it. But I'm going to reserve my judgement till I know the timelines and whether he committed adultery.

He set fire to the factory, so he's no saint. He made bad choices... Even in the toughest situations, the men with b**lls will do the right thing. And he isnt one of them. He definitely does not deserve the love of those two women. How he expressed his anger towards Razia, well it got him nowhere. If he'd thought through it calmly, he might have got Razia to trip up.

With Dilshad, it's anger and frustration at how her life turned out. And maybe angry with herself that despite all that Rashid's done, she cannot let go and she still cares for him. Old habits die hard they say. I think her anger at Asad's action yesterday was part frustration at Asad's inability to trust in her blind belief that Rashid's innocent, and at some level, frustration about her weakness for her husband. He's her blind spot and rather than admit he's committed a crime (arson) forget murder (btw, did they forget about the skeleton?) she'll focus on the one thing she knows he didn't do... Attempt to kill her.

Honestly, after watching today's episode, I don't know what to make of Dilshad. Disappointed with her for sure, to say the least.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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So much anger and so much hurt can lead to a very heavy price. The interpersonal costs of anger are great and all three have put on their emotional armor in preparation for the next show down. Their anger has cut them off from feeling genuine closeness and a chance for reconciliation with each other and others outside of their circle. In order of any chance of amending, each person must take ownership of their anger and start talking and expressing how they really feel towards each other'unless the three can express their hurt and betrayal, there is little chance for understanding and a future.

Fantstic post laila , Completely agree with u on the above lines .I think all this raaz and saaziz business at the end of the day will finally allow the above said characters to deal with all the deep-seated hurt and anger and finally set them free .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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"Anger has enormous costs. The impulse that felt so right at the moment, so justified, becomes in the quiet hours another source of guilt and regret. What seemed so worthy of blame passes. What remains are the scars, the hurt, and the alienation."

"If you are often angry, every one of your relationships may be affected."

Nice post and very well written. A much needed post at the moment to debate on because our QH characters are going through a lot of emotional turmoil these days.

Agree with you on many points but i have a different take on certain things.

The above line"If you are often angry, every one of your relationships may be affected." is very true. But i feel that this not hold true with all these characters.

Asad- Agree that he has a lot of emotional baggage. He was not abused as a child but like you said, the emotional trauma he experienced as a child is no less than an abuse.. It has left deep wounds in him. it has made him grow up as a man who is bitter, afraid to love , afraid to care, and trusts no one except his Ammi, Ayaan and Najma. He gets provoked easily at times and his anger gets the control over his better side at times. i am saying at times because from what i see, he does get angry easily but most of the time he has control over his anger. We can recollect the number of times he got angry at Zoya - and during those times, she did provoke him to the extent even any very mild person also will retaliate in anger- and Asad is the AYM, still he managed to control his anger and behave with her in a reasonable attitude, except when he slapped her.

Anger hurts yes.. But most of the time it's hurt that leads to anger, which often leads to more hurt. That's whats happening with Asad now.

The root cause of Asad's anger is hurt - the hurt he feels from his father's abandonment. All that hurt in his heart, he displays it as anger and despise towards his father.. and he condemns his father and judges him like no one else does. His mother was also hurt but she does not judge and condemn Rashid. So it's only towards his father that he holds a never sizzling fire in his heart. But i think deep down in his heart he wants to trust his father and he does yearn for his father's love - it's evident with the way he listened to Dilshad when she first told him that she suspects that Rashid is involved in a conspiracy and that was the reason for someone shooting her. He did not jump to conclusions and blame Rashid but went along with Zoya to the factory to investigate the matter and see who was behind it. It even looked like he had hope that what his mother was telling was the truth- that his father had a valid reason to abandon them 17 years back

BUt there in the factory, the evidences all pointed to Rashid (thanks to Raziya).And he got betrayed by his father once again. To learn that your own father (whom you despised and did not trust since ages) is the person who killed someone and tried to kill your own mother to cover that truth- that is something to make anyone , not only Asad, loose his senses. so to me it wasn't a surprise when he tried to kill Rashid. His anger got out of control her but here there is very valid reason for it.

Sometimes anger is the mechanism of our self defense- defense against hurt, vulnerability and fear which we feel deep down.. And with Asad this also holds true.

The good thing here is, i feel that Asad's character is evolving. In a way, he is encountering the worst days of his life now. but his behavior is changing for good along with this. He does not yell at Zoya. He accepts her interference- which means that he is learning to trust people and he is learning to overcome the hurt he always carry in his heart.

comment is getting too long.. so will stop here with Asad. May be will post another comment about Rashid and Dilshad later.😛


Edited by kaussar - 13 years ago
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I will have to disagree, Laila. For me the characters are falling apart. I dont think it's because of pent up anger that so many characters are behaving such. It's just how indian dramas work. A slap here, camera zooming, loud makeup of vamps, throwing stuff. I hope its just a phase which I'm gonna pass by gleefully laughing and we get back to relative subtlity of a 4 lions productions. Bacause I cant identify with any of this nor am I interested in a saas bahu type serial. But I'm sure its to cater to the drama craving trp audience and we will have different flavors soon enough.

P.S. Does anybody react like this even in the most tragic/ anguished moments of our life? I dont live among people who do. But I do understand melodrama is larger than life. I just wish it was done with a lil more finesse without resorting to such gimmicks😆
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hey laila,

fab post. yesterday for me was just annoying. I couldn't believe how strong characters were just being completely eviscerated by terrible characterization of anger. Dilshaad the strong, graceful, level-headed woman reacted like how a 17 year old would act in defense of her first love. Bleargh!

How did a woman who loves her children so much fail to see her son's emotional trauma? And to top it off she whacks him!

And the Razia-Rashid scene...really??? It took him 17 years to wake up to the fact that she was evil??? Was he living under a rock? And of course choking a woman in the middle of you living room is way to confront someone who has been blackmailing you...god forbid you use your brains and use the situation to your advantage. *sigh*

Honestly, after yesterday, the whole lot of them need to see an anger management counselor or better yet a therapist! (except poor Najma...)
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Originally posted by: nikolai_gogol

I will have to disagree, Laila. For me the characters are falling apart. I dont think it's because of pent up anger that so many characters are behaving such. It's just how indian dramas work. A slap here, camera zooming, loud makeup of vamps, throwing stuff. I hope its just a phase which I'm gonna pass by gleefully laughing and we get back to relative subtlity of a 4 lions productions. Bacause I cant identify with any of this nor am I interested in a saas bahu type serial. But I'm sure its to cater to the drama craving trp audience and we will have different flavors soon enough.

P.S. Does anybody react like this even in the most tragic/ anguished moments of our life? I dont live among people who do. But I do understand melodrama is larger than life. I just wish it was done with a lil more finesse without resorting to such gimmicks😆


Totally OK to disagree😃 Sounds like the whole show and the characters for you have dissolved int a circus style show down where anything goes for the sake of creating good TRPS. I think a lot of what you say has some truth in it as some of the scenes of the over-the-top aggression are definitely key to making those ratings go up. However, I do note that you have more faith in the CVs than I do for that to happen. Right now, for me, all this explosive behavior has to be addressed in the show otherwise what is the show really prompting other than get let's get mad slapfest, gun slinging, beating up, choking showdown of a mess.
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Laila, this is brilliant! You've truly out-done yourself this time. You've damn near-perfectly explained each of the characters and their relation to the quicksilver emotion known as anger.

A few quick thoughts: Anger, to me, is a paralzying emotion. When I am angry, that is when I find myself to be at my weakest. And I find that every sentence of your post resonates with that same sentiment. There is nothing sexy, passionate or macho about rage. Anger is helplessness at it's most unadulterated.

Asad: His anger is his biggest flaw, his weakness and this anger will become the biggest regret of his life as well soon. His anger is truly paralzying for Asad. He is helpless when consumed by his rage, as we have seen many times before... Asad carries a very noticeable chip on his shoulder, a chip that only becomes evident when he is in the throes of pure rage and I think that is why many of us have been questioning since long his actions and behaviour towards Zoya. His anger is what sustains his inner wounds, to heal them he will have to master his rage, but I fear the scars of the past have left marks indelible on him. And Rashid's (mis)actions and Dishad's (mis)reactions have only disturbed his wounds further. Watch him roar with impunity now and while Rashid will be square in the forcefield of his wrath, those closest to him won't escape unscathed either...

(To be continued...)


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Posted: 13 years ago
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brilliant analysis of all three characters on anger

As for rashid his anger is because of guilt and helplessness and he lets it out in a violent way
but if this option is considered then why did he move on to have a family with shireen
so he two timing both the ladies

for dilshad she was more of a wife yesterday than a mother which is not fair because the same person left her for another family .
But her POV may be she felt she had rights over her son so she ended behaving like an insane person

as far as understanding goes i feel all three should attend anger management courses
within that time frame they may develop some sort of understandings.

cvs are justifying one mistake with another mistake
Edited by nebuna - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaussar

"Anger has enormous costs. The impulse that felt so right at the moment, so justified, becomes in the quiet hours another source of guilt and regret. What seemed so worthy of blame passes. What remains are the scars, the hurt, and the alienation."

"If you are often angry, every one of your relationships may be affected."

Nice post and very well written. A much needed post at the moment to debate on because our QH characters are going through a lot of emotional turmoil these days.

Agree with you on many points but i have a different take on certain things.

The above line"If you are often angry, every one of your relationships may be affected." is very true. But i feel that this not hold true with all these characters.

Asad- Agree that he has a lot of emotional baggage. He was not abused as a child but like you said, the emotional trauma he experienced as a child is no less than an abuse.. It has left deep wounds in him. it has made him grow up as a man who is bitter, afraid to love , afraid to care, and trusts no one except his Ammi, Ayaan and Najma. He gets provoked easily at times and his anger gets the control over his better side at times. i am saying at times because from what i see, he does get angry easily but most of the time he has control over his anger. We can recollect the number of times he got angry at Zoya - and during those times, she did provoke him to the extent even any very mild person also will retaliate in anger- and Asad is the AYM, still he managed to control his anger and behave with her in a reasonable attitude, except when he slapped her.

Anger hurts yes.. But most of the time it's hurt that leads to anger, which often leads to more hurt. That's whats happening with Asad now.

The root cause of Asad's anger is hurt - the hurt he feels from his father's abandonment. All that hurt in his heart, he displays it as anger and despise towards his father.. and he condemns his father and judges him like no one else does. His mother was also hurt but she does not judge and condemn Rashid. So it's only towards his father that he holds a never sizzling fire in his heart. But i think deep down in his heart he wants to trust his father and he does yearn for his father's love - it's evident with the way he listened to Dilshad when she first told him that she suspects that Rashid is involved in a conspiracy and that was the reason for someone shooting her. He did not jump to conclusions and blame Rashid but went along with Zoya to the factory to investigate the matter and see who was behind it. It even looked like he had hope that what his mother was telling was the truth- that his father had a valid reason to abandon them 17 years back

BUt there in the factory, the evidences all pointed to Rashid (thanks to Raziya).And he got betrayed by his father once again. To learn that your own father (whom you despised and did not trust since ages) is the person who killed someone and tried to kill your own mother to cover that truth- that is something to make anyone , not only Asad, loose his senses. so to me it wasn't a surprise when he tried to kill Rashid. His anger got out of control her but here there is very valid reason for it.

Sometimes anger is the mechanism of our self defense- defense against hurt, vulnerability and fear which we feel deep down.. And with Asad this also holds true.

The good thing here is, i feel that Asad's character is evolving. In a way, he is encountering the worst days of his life now. but his behavior is changing for good along with this. He does not yell at Zoya. He accepts her interference- which means that he is learning to trust people and he is learning to overcome the hurt he always carry in his heart.

comment is getting too long.. so will stop here with Asad. May be will post another comment about Rashid and Dilshad later.😛



Really enjoyed reading your analysis and your take on the characters and your interpretation of the quotes. This is an amazing perspective that has some great thought attached. I really am glad this post has generated some insightful discussion and a whole different perspective.

Asad is definitively a complex character whose past affects everything he does...and he certainly has had the ability to manage much of his anger until recently. And yes, most of Asad's anger stems from a lot of hurt and pain regarding his father's abandonment.

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