Comparison of evil?

Farah

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Posted: 12 years ago

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All right I have been reading different topics and discussions though this forums topics and I have come across the fact that klaus is also called more evil or worse than Damon and Stefan? I would really like to know why ( now Dont get me wrong i love Damon and Stefan, Damon more though ;) ). But why is klaus more evil? Cause he killed Tyler's mom? Let me back track!!! ( Elena- Damon- Stefan-Caroline-Tyler-Matt) were all involved in killing FINN, yea yea I know your gonna debate they had too! But wait does that make it right? ( not to even mention kol,caused of course he tried to kill Jeremy! But think bout it is it right to kill someone to save someone else?) I don't think so.

On the other hand Damon killed jeremy not once but twice! Now he was lucky the first time he had a ring. So how is klaus killing Tyler's mom any different?and just cuz she died, no debate there. And let's not forget the second time,yea it was Caroline's mom who shot Jeremy, but Damon knew he wasteee and he also knew if he himself got shot he wouldn't die, just past out for a bit yet he still moved which caused Bonnie to loose the spirits support! Now that ain't any different.

Another point klaus killed his mom? He is evil. Wait Stefan killed his dad sweet hearts, lets not forget that now!! And both for the same reason ( They were trying to kill they're kids).

And at last lets not forget Elena!!!! Count how many people died because of Elena, yes she didn't mean for them to die, but that does not justify anything at all.

Back to Damon he first of all, turned Vicky,she had to die, played with Caroline and used and abused and reused her for his own good. there so much I'm not covering because P.S it's 2:00am in canada, you get my point by what I stated so far!! Any doubts let me know!!!

And please don't debate they are our main characters so its okay but not for klaus!! At last I wanna,eave you with a question,after reading all this!!! Tell me

HOW IS KLAUS, ANY DIFFERENT THAN DAMON, STEFAN, ELENA??? HOW, ill tell you HE IS NOT

P.s love all of them regardless, we'll except Elena for now ahahhaha.

Much Love - Farah

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Well. Before I say anything, you should know I like Klaus and I love Damon. So, basically, I like them both. BUT. I am biased for Damon. My opinion will be somewhat even but you should know that I am always gonna choose Damon and I am always gonna take his side. Damon vs Anyone. I will always choose Damon.

So. Look. Frankly, Klaus is worse. Klaus is plain evil. Damon was also bad. Worst, I say. He was evil in Season 1. But he was redeemable at that point too. And we knew that. And Klaus, I don't know even today I can say that he has any remorse. Yes. Damon has done very bad things. Wait? Damon killed Jeremy twice? 😕 When? He did only once and for that he has fairly APOLOGIZED to Elena and that part is over between those characters, it is just open for some fanbase who constantly want to see fault in Damon's character. So, for me that does not count. And if you are mistakenly saying that Jeremy was shot coz Damon? I think it was an accident. That does not even count.

Damon has changed. Damon is like 'You screw me, I will screw you'. He is bad only with those people who treats him bad or hurt him. Damon in Season 1 and Damon in Season 4 has vast difference. And for almost all the bad things done, Damon did it coz no one else wanted to look bad and do the bad things. And besides, everything. Damon was screwed beyond repair when he came but still he has a side which was human and Elena saw it. Damon was on right path, redeemable one just in Season 1. He is a very good man with a huge heart but he is so royally screwed that he does not trust anyone and he hides it. So, he is the bad man of the town. Damon liked Elena and for her sake, he saved her friend's life. Bonnie does not count. Even thought, Damon has saved Bonnie's life BUT I personally, don't like Bonnie and Damon thing. So, I avoid. BUT by passing the time, Damon has saved Caroline, Tyler, Matt, Bonnie, Jeremy, Liz, Elena herself and Stefan too. He cares for Elena and Stefan only but he is willing to save their loved ones, only for them. He does not have to like them personally.

Klaus. Well. He is still the same. Minus for Caroline. He only loves Caroline and does not give a damn about anyone else. And about Carol's murder. Yes. He was wrong. His mother. He was wrong. And worst thing he ever done was to back stabbed Elijah and Rebekah. Becks was with him all those god damn hundreds of years and he just did not care at all. He loves his siblings, all agree. Good. BUT. whenever something is not in his favor, he daggers them. I don't like it. He daggered Becks like anything. If I'd Becks, I'd hate him too. You don't like the conversation, lets Dagger her. What is this? And killing. Well. He himself has said that he does that out of boredom. He does not kill coz its necessary or right. He kills out of his power, stubbornness and his own wishes and purposes. His obsession for hybrid family. I know he is deeply hurt, beyond repair. And if he wants to change then he has a long long way to go. I have all my sympathy with him, his own father did not love him and mother did this to him so I seriously feel bad for him. Poor Klaus. All he need is love. And he can get it but for that he has to start changing. And he is definitely not changing.

Well. That's why I don't like to compare them. They both are beautifully damaged person. One has got love, changed and turned into a grown up man. The other is still on the construction road. 😊

And comparing other characters to Klaus. I am not gonna do that. Coz, Stefan. I am tired. And they are not bad. Situations had made them worse. They are good people.

And comparing Elena to Klaus? 😲 No. Elena has no choice. Its not her fault that she is Doppelganger and two guyz are head over heels in love with her. Elena is only responsible for Kol's murder. Otherwise, Elena looks like victim here. Coz, she had no option. BUT. I know no one is going to agree with me as everyone hates Elena now. Every damn person. So. I am not discussing Elena with anyone. Coz, I still like her. It's not her fault that her fate is screwed. I can't hate Elena just coz she cares for two people at the same time. I can't hate her simply coz she is not doing the thing in my chosen way. I can't do that. So, Elena and Klaus? No ways.

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Well. Before I say anything, you should know I like Klaus and I love Damon. So, basically, I like them both. BUT. I am biased for Damon. My opinion will be somewhat even but you should know that I am always gonna choose Damon and I am always gonna take his side. Damon vs Anyone. I will always choose Damon.

So. Look. Frankly, Klaus is worse. Klaus is plain evil. Damon was also bad. Worst, I say. He was evil in Season 1. But he was redeemable at that point too. And we knew that. And Klaus, I don't know even today I can say that he has any remorse. Yes. Damon has done very bad things. Wait? Damon killed Jeremy twice? 😕 When? He did only once and for that he has fairly APOLOGIZED to Elena and that part is over between those characters, it is just open for some fanbase who constantly want to see fault in Damon's character. So, for me that does not count. And if you are mistakenly saying that Jeremy was shot coz Damon? I think it was an accident. That does not even count.

Damon has changed. Damon is like 'You screw me, I will screw you'. He is bad only with those people who treats him bad or hurt him. Damon in Season 1 and Damon in Season 4 has vast difference. And for almost all the bad things done, Damon did it coz no one else wanted to look bad and do the bad things. And besides, everything. Damon was screwed beyond repair when he came but still he has a side which was human and Elena saw it. Damon was on right path, redeemable one just in Season 1. He is a very good man with a huge heart but he is so royally screwed that he does not trust anyone and he hides it. So, he is the bad man of the town. Damon liked Elena and for her sake, he saved her friend's life. Bonnie does not count. Even thought, Damon has saved Bonnie's life BUT I personally, don't like Bonnie and Damon thing. So, I avoid. BUT by passing the time, Damon has saved Caroline, Tyler, Matt, Bonnie, Jeremy, Liz, Elena herself and Stefan too. He cares for Elena and Stefan only but he is willing to save their loved ones, only for them. He does not have to like them personally.

Klaus. Well. He is still the same. Minus for Caroline. He only loves Caroline and does not give a damn about anyone else. And about Carol's murder. Yes. He was wrong. His mother. He was wrong. And worst thing he ever done was to back stabbed Elijah and Rebekah. Becks was with him all those god damn hundreds of years and he just did not care at all. He loves his siblings, all agree. Good. BUT. whenever something is not in his favor, he daggers them. I don't like it. He daggered Becks like anything. If I'd Becks, I'd hate him too. You don't like the conversation, lets Dagger her. What is this? And killing. Well. He himself has said that he does that out of boredom. He does not kill coz its necessary or right. He kills out of his power, stubbornness and his own wishes and purposes. His obsession for hybrid family. I know he is deeply hurt, beyond repair. And if he wants to change then he has a long long way to go. I have all my sympathy with him, his own father did not love him and mother did this to him so I seriously feel bad for him. Poor Klaus. All he need is love. And he can get it but for that he has to start changing. And he is definitely not changing.

Well. That's why I don't like to compare them. They both are beautifully damaged person. One has got love, changed and turned into a grown up man. The other is still on the construction road. 😊

And comparing other characters to Klaus. I am not gonna do that. Coz, Stefan. I am tired. And they are not bad. Situations had made them worse. They are good people.

And comparing Elena to Klaus? 😲 No. Elena has no choice. Its not her fault that she is Doppelganger and two guyz are head over heels in love with her. Elena is only responsible for Kol's murder. Otherwise, Elena looks like victim here. Coz, she had no option. BUT. I know no one is going to agree with me as everyone hates Elena now. Every damn person. So. I am not discussing Elena with anyone. Coz, I still like her. It's not her fault that her fate is screwed. I can't hate Elena just coz she cares for two people at the same time. I can't hate her simply coz she is not doing the thing in my chosen way. I can't do that. So, Elena and Klaus? No ways.

Thanks for your long analyze, I read every bit of it BUT IT DIDN'T PROVE TO ME WHY THEY ARE ANY DIFFERENT THAN KLAUS👎🏼!! I know exactly what you mean, my point was that klaus isn't any-worse than any other-character. No one is a hero here. I love Damon just as much as you do, in fact he is my fav character, but to say he isn't bad cuz he helped people he hurt first doesn't make it better. Above all he killed Luxy for no damn reason, and If You Screw Me ill Screw you!! Klaus did the same with Tyler. Yes I agree they are not bad, but what I'm trying to say here is why is Klaus consistently the bad guy if they all have done things? And Elena I don't hate her but she is crazy for repeating what Katherine did!!!! MY WHOLE POINT WAS THAT AIN'T NO BODY WORSE THAN ANYONE

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Sad. That you did not like it. 😔

I am not saying Damon is perfect angel. I am saying he is deep down a good person. And you know honey, up until 408 I was little sad that he killed Lexie for nothing. BUT. After watching 408, I felt so good that he killed Lexie. I watched that scene again and again and took pleasure. Lexie was total bitch to Damon. She may be a good/best friend to Stefan but she was mean bitch to Damon. So, I don't give a damn about her. She can GTFO. 😈 And I have forgiven Damon for killing Lexie and now I thank him for killing her. 😆

And as I said. They are all worse. BUT. Klaus is one step ahead of them all. Not similar. He is more evil. And how about killing Jenna? Jenna or Elena never did bad to Klaus. He killed Jenna coz he freaking wanted to make an army of hybrids. Is this even a reason? 😆

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Originally posted by: iMadz
Sad. That you did not like it. 😔

I am not saying Damon is perfect angel. I am saying he is deep down a good person. And you know honey, up until 408 I was little sad that he killed Lexie for nothing. BUT. After watching 408, I felt so good that he killed Lexie. I watched that scene again and again and took pleasure. Lexie was total bitch to Damon. She may be a good/best friend to Stefan but she was mean bitch to Damon. So, I don't give a damn about her. She can GTFO. 😈 And I have forgiven Damon for killing Lexie and now I thank him for killing her. 😆

And as I said. They are all worse. BUT. Klaus is one step ahead of them all. Not similar. He is more evil. And how about killing Jenna? Jenna or Elena never did bad to Klaus. He killed Jenna coz he freaking wanted to make an army of hybrids. Is this even a reason? 😆

So true.Damon and Stefan have something I have never seen in Klaus.Love for family😆

Klaus cares for his siblings? really? but shouting it on roof tops wont undo the way he treated them..especially Rebecca and Elijah.Salvatores abuse each other,say strange things to each other but at the end of the day they save each others ass 😛.They cant live without each other,especially Stefan.Stefan's humanity is Damon.He needed Damon to pull him of from the dead end ie ripper phase.Damon saved Stefan's life in S1 from tomb vampires and some other times in s3.He teamed up with Elena to help out Stefan when he lost control after drinking HB.Stefan went crazzy when Damon got werewolf bite and sacrificed his freedom.Damon could compel Elena and make her forget abt Stefan and many other things during the road trip of S1 cuz Elena didnt have vervain necklace.But did he do it inspite of his hate for Stefan due to Kat? No. Thats my friend makes the difference.Love for family and brotherhood.These concepts are completely alien to Klaus.He hasnt shown any regard for him family other than to make use of them(elijah) to achieve his selfish needs.

Lets not even compare damon snapping Jeremy's neck to Klaus serial killings.Damon lashed out on Elena cuz he was hurt,damaged.He spent 150 yrs obsessing over a woman,trying to save her,endangering every single thing only to discover everything was lie and she only loved his brother.Then Elena's "its always gonna be Stefan".There is only so much hurt a person can take.All the guilt,angst,pain,desperation made him flips the switch.And Vampires do monstrous things when they are not in control.Thats part of what they are.I am not justifying his acts but yes its in no way comparable to someone like Klaus who enjoys murdering ppl.Did Klaus went on murder spiral for love? NO.Did Klaus face betrayal from the woman he loved for more than a century and was it that vengeance/hate that forced him to go on a rage spiral? Did Klaus broke the curse for family?NO.He did all those heinous murders ONLY and ONLY to achieve his selfish motives.To break the curse,to make hybrids,to be INVINCIBLE.He loves destroying everything that comes in his way.He killed Kat's family only cuz kat tried to save her ownlife.Did Damon kill Anna and her mother just cuz she lied to him abt Katherine being in tomb? did he kill Isobel? John? Liz Forbes? I mean these ppl betrayed Damon many times but he didnt react like Klaus.Dont tell me its for Elena cuz apparently Damon doesnt respect Elena's choices 😆.Damon is his own person and he didnt kill those ppl cuz somewhere he was possible of being compassionate.

Lexi well dont even get me started.I dont feel even slightest sorrow for her.Not anymore after S4.She is the root cause of evil and reason the brothers split.She always had something against Damon and though she helped Stefan and all she, made sure brothers stay apart.She planted the seeds of enmity b/w the brothers🤢.As much as ppl hate Kat,elena they always acknowledged Defans bond.But Lexi didnt even have any regard for brotherly love b/w defan.i am sure more of her antics will be revealed in future FB.

Klaus talk about one upping on Kol's murder doesnt make any sense.He killed Ty's mom b4 the gang killed Kol.His intentions have always been selfish.He cared for Kol..maybe..but sad that he waited till kol's murder to reveal his affection for his bro.Long speeches wont bring abt any change love and affection for family must reflect in ones actions.Elena Vs Klaus hmm lets not even go there 😆.That makes zero sense.

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@ Mystic Falls,

You know the best thing about Lexie? She did not have even a reason to hate Damon? She did not even knew Damon and she already hated him. And when she blamed him that he thinks about only himself before others, well, my point is that Lexie dear, you never met Damon. How do you know this much about him? And if Stefan told her about Damon then Lexie is stupid coz he believed Stefan and hated Damon just coz she heard bad things about Damon. Where was your brain Lexie? You disliked Damon coz Stefan told you? I don't see why she hated Damon so much in the first place? She never talked or met with Damon for a brief period so on what basis she made a decision that Damon was selfish?

Is this a plot loophole? Or just my incredible limitless love for Damon that I see nothing bad in him? 😆

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Originally posted by: Mystic_Falls

So true.Damon and Stefan have something I have never seen in Klaus.Love for family😆

Klaus cares for his siblings? really? but shouting it on roof tops wont undo the way he treated them..especially Rebecca and Elijah.Salvatores abuse each other,say strange things to each other but at the end of the day they save each others ass 😛.They cant live without each other,especially Stefan.Stefan's humanity is Damon.He needed Damon to pull him of from the dead end ie ripper phase.Damon saved Stefan's life in S1 from tomb vampires and some other times in s3.He teamed up with Elena to help out Stefan when he lost control after drinking HB.Stefan went crazzy when Damon got werewolf bite and sacrificed his freedom.Damon could compel Elena and make her forget abt Stefan and many other things during the road trip of S1 cuz Elena didnt have vervain necklace.But did he do it inspite of his hate for Stefan due to Kat? No. Thats my friend makes the difference.Love for family and brotherhood.These concepts are completely alien to Klaus.He hasnt shown any regard for him family other than to make use of them(elijah) to achieve his selfish needs.

Lets not even compare damon snapping Jeremy's neck to Klaus serial killings.Damon lashed out on Elena cuz he was hurt,damaged.He spent 150 yrs obsessing over a woman,trying to save her,endangering every single thing only to discover everything was lie and she only loved his brother.Then Elena's "its always gonna be Stefan".There is only so much hurt a person can take.All the guilt,angst,pain,desperation made him flips the switch.And Vampires do monstrous things when they are not in control.Thats part of what they are.I am not justifying his acts but yes its in no way comparable to someone like Klaus who enjoys murdering ppl.Did Klaus went on murder spiral for love? NO.Did Klaus face betrayal from the woman he loved for more than a century and was it that vengeance/hate that forced him to go on a rage spiral? Did Klaus broke the curse for family?NO.He did all those heinous murders ONLY and ONLY to achieve his selfish motives.To break the curse,to make hybrids,to be INVINCIBLE.He loves destroying everything that comes in his way.He killed Kat's family only cuz kat tried to save her ownlife.Did Damon kill Anna and her mother just cuz she lied to him abt Katherine being in tomb? did he kill Isobel? John? Liz Forbes? I mean these ppl betrayed Damon many times but he didnt react like Klaus.Dont tell me its for Elena cuz apparently Damon doesnt respect Elena's choices 😆.Damon is his own person and he didnt kill those ppl cuz somewhere he was possible of being compassionate.

Lexi well dont even get me started.I dont feel even slightest sorrow for her.Not anymore after S4.She is the root cause of evil and reason the brothers split.She always had something against Damon and though she helped Stefan and all she, made sure brothers stay apart.She planted the seeds of enmity b/w the brothers🤢.As much as ppl hate Kat,elena they always acknowledged Defans bond.But Lexi didnt even have any regard for brotherly love b/w defan.i am sure more of her antics will be revealed in future FB.

Klaus talk about one upping on Kol's murder doesnt make any sense.He killed Ty's mom b4 the gang killed Kol.His intentions have always been selfish.He cared for Kol..maybe..but sad that he waited till kol's murder to reveal his affection for his bro.Long speeches wont bring abt any change love and affection for family must reflect in ones actions.Elena Vs Klaus hmm lets not even go there 😆.That makes zero sense.

I'm not saying klaus is not evil, all am saying is that There is no heros, okay they didn't kill Kol before Tyler's mom but they killed Finn, why couldn't Tyler just leave by himself, no he had to break every hybrids sire bond why? And don't even try to say he was helping them cause he wanted to rule them after words! But ps thank you for your opinion :D

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Sad. That you did not like it. 😔

I am not saying Damon is perfect angel. I am saying he is deep down a good person. And you know honey, up until 408 I was little sad that he killed Lexie for nothing. BUT. After watching 408, I felt so good that he killed Lexie. I watched that scene again and again and took pleasure. Lexie was total bitch to Damon. She may be a good/best friend to Stefan but she was mean bitch to Damon. So, I don't give a damn about her. She can GTFO. 😈 And I have forgiven Damon for killing Lexie and now I thank him for killing her. 😆

And as I said. They are all worse. BUT. Klaus is one step ahead of them all. Not similar. He is more evil. And how about killing Jenna? Jenna or Elena never did bad to Klaus. He killed Jenna coz he freaking wanted to make an army of hybrids. Is this even a reason? 😆

[awww no I loved it and I love Damon and I very much appreciate your opinion and u taking time to reply to my opinion but all I'm saying is that it does not make anyone better than the other, if you know what I mean!!! Ps No One is HERO here NO-ONE.

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Originally posted by: Mystic_Falls

So true.Damon and Stefan have something I have never seen in Klaus.Love for family😆

Klaus cares for his siblings? really? but shouting it on roof tops wont undo the way he treated them..especially Rebecca and Elijah.Salvatores abuse each other,say strange things to each other but at the end of the day they save each others ass 😛.They cant live without each other,especially Stefan.Stefan's humanity is Damon.He needed Damon to pull him of from the dead end ie ripper phase.Damon saved Stefan's life in S1 from tomb vampires and some other times in s3.He teamed up with Elena to help out Stefan when he lost control after drinking HB.Stefan went crazzy when Damon got werewolf bite and sacrificed his freedom.Damon could compel Elena and make her forget abt Stefan and many other things during the road trip of S1 cuz Elena didnt have vervain necklace.But did he do it inspite of his hate for Stefan due to Kat? No. Thats my friend makes the difference.Love for family and brotherhood.These concepts are completely alien to Klaus.He hasnt shown any regard for him family other than to make use of them(elijah) to achieve his selfish needs.

Lets not even compare damon snapping Jeremy's neck to Klaus serial killings.Damon lashed out on Elena cuz he was hurt,damaged.He spent 150 yrs obsessing over a woman,trying to save her,endangering every single thing only to discover everything was lie and she only loved his brother.Then Elena's "its always gonna be Stefan".There is only so much hurt a person can take.All the guilt,angst,pain,desperation made him flips the switch.And Vampires do monstrous things when they are not in control.Thats part of what they are.I am not justifying his acts but yes its in no way comparable to someone like Klaus who enjoys murdering ppl.Did Klaus went on murder spiral for love? NO.Did Klaus face betrayal from the woman he loved for more than a century and was it that vengeance/hate that forced him to go on a rage spiral? Did Klaus broke the curse for family?NO.He did all those heinous murders ONLY and ONLY to achieve his selfish motives.To break the curse,to make hybrids,to be INVINCIBLE.He loves destroying everything that comes in his way.He killed Kat's family only cuz kat tried to save her ownlife.Did Damon kill Anna and her mother just cuz she lied to him abt Katherine being in tomb? did he kill Isobel? John? Liz Forbes? I mean these ppl betrayed Damon many times but he didnt react like Klaus.Dont tell me its for Elena cuz apparently Damon doesnt respect Elena's choices 😆.Damon is his own person and he didnt kill those ppl cuz somewhere he was possible of being compassionate.

Lexi well dont even get me started.I dont feel even slightest sorrow for her.Not anymore after S4.She is the root cause of evil and reason the brothers split.She always had something against Damon and though she helped Stefan and all she, made sure brothers stay apart.She planted the seeds of enmity b/w the brothers🤢.As much as ppl hate Kat,elena they always acknowledged Defans bond.But Lexi didnt even have any regard for brotherly love b/w defan.i am sure more of her antics will be revealed in future FB.

Klaus talk about one upping on Kol's murder doesnt make any sense.He killed Ty's mom b4 the gang killed Kol.His intentions have always been selfish.He cared for Kol..maybe..but sad that he waited till kol's murder to reveal his affection for his bro.Long speeches wont bring abt any change love and affection for family must reflect in ones actions.Elena Vs Klaus hmm lets not even go there 😆.That makes zero sense.

And also to add in to your view of damon being hurt, okay so being hunted by your own father, okay not own father but father for a thousand years is not suppose to hurt? And we might get to know more tags about why klaus is the way he is, anyhow just bcuz Damon is a lead role or does things cause he is hurt does not make it right!!!! Like I said a million times NO ONE IS A hERO HERE!!! No one no one and that's it.

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