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Posted: 12 years ago
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Minuu, you picked out a vital point...
The boy who was born in a majestic household will finally turn 2 ashes metaphorically with no 1 beside him always looking for that particular thing that he was always devoid of,a feeling that he himself can't xplain as he never xperienced it nor think that it exist which made him a cold man which is love and affection.
He functions like he is told, by a father who rules the house with an iron rod. But only a love from a good woman, can change him or even bring some positivity.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: seena007

Minuu, you picked out a vital point...

The boy who was born in a majestic household will finally turn 2 ashes metaphorically with no 1 beside him always looking for that particular thing that he was always devoid of,a feeling that he himself can't explain as he never experienced it nor think that it exist which made him a cold man which is love and affection.
He functions like he is told, by a father who rules the house with an iron rod. But only a love from a good woman, can change him or even bring some positivity.


I agree with the both of you. His confusion and instability is more apparent than the other characters presently. We are witnessing the almost existential sufferings of a character in Samar, who feels passionately on the one hand and on the other is lost in a void. He is torn between attachment and emptiness without facing his seemingly meaningless existence where he just 'functions like he is told'.
He has all the luxury that a rich upbringing provides a person with but no luxury of closeness, affection or love.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: seena007

Yes, Jes, I agree with your comment totally.

exatly they don't have the guts to bring such thing on Indian Tv soaps.they r just so satisfied with their old formulas & whatsits 🥱 .what they r showing is so predticatble.
We are an educated generation, and I suppose we want something educational and not mere 'brain dead' stuff.
Educational meaning, we are sharing ideas of how and why a person's mind can get complicated.


exactly my point Di 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rangeeni

["Samar Tyagi has always been under the arm of his father... like he was born with a sliver spoon in his mouth you could say... and RKT has always taught ST to obey him without questioning. It's pretty obvious that he was taught from a very early age to fear his father and even though Samar is educated RKT never gave Samar the chance to voice his opinions at all thus leading to his low self-esteem and the need to constantly prove to RKT he is a good son. This also leads him make mistakes, and once again become the reason for his father's distrust and anger. Shamlidevi Tyagi on the other hand is such an evil person anyway... so what the son normally should get from his mother ST never received (love affection etc) maybe causing the hatred that he bottles up inside of himself and then not knowing what love is. He is a product of a dysfunctional family

...mysterious allure that is begging us to try and explore him...

It looks as if he feels he's lost his sister, pushed her so far back, that she'd never come back to calling him bhaiyaa anymore... he knows something is missing but he can't pinpoint that in their relationship!"]


I agree! I want to also add that suggesting Samar having some sort of mental problem which you mentioned somewhere in your lovely essay, is an idea I would endorse for too as that seems feasible in conjunction with his disintegrated kind of personality: it appears he is flitting between his emptiness in his relationships and his human need for it...what i mean by that is sometimes through his reactions to events and the characters around him, we see him become quite involved and invested in them to the point of being consumed by hurt, bitterness and passion and so on. Yet at other times it seems like he can't care less about anything, is unaffected- 'heartless' as you and someone you quoted rightly put. Maybe his drinking habit will catch on in this respect; it could explain an attempt to drown out his misdeeds, and shrug off things, become detached and simply forget his existence and everything in it.

Agreed. It is noticeable that something between them is not right. Despite Sayali possessing the luxury of an elder brother (and what a brother!) she cannot relate to him as one.

Well said. He has been a delightful subject for ongoing musings in our many posts.

'Which is why I love the ST fans...' Right back at you!



I couldn't agree anymore without repeating anything you've said :)

Originally posted by: seena007

Alka, I thought this line of yours was very funny. It had me choking with laughter🤣

Samar has an aura around him, a mist... there is something behind the fog, and no one wants to explore that!
Your style of writing has always a pinch of humour in them!


Ahaha, thank you :) I just feel as if this... quoted from minnu di "The boy who was born in a majestic household will finally turn 2 ashes metaphorically with no 1 beside him always looking for that particular thing that he was always devoid of,a feeling that he himself can't xplain as he never xperienced it nor think that it exist which made him a cold man which is love and affection."

I'm in tears!!! I couldn't have put this any better Minnu di!!
I have a feeling he is the loneliest character on the show right now... trying to find happiness in materialistic things... and in the end, I think he is going to be physically alone too... which just saddens me... cause right now, he is mentally alone... and I don't want for there to be a day where he is completely left alone... maybe in the Tyagi household, his place given to Rajneesh Pathak, and Dev will take Nimai's place in the rajhans' household.. only difference is Nimai will still be remembered and maybe Samar would be forgotten... I have no idea where I'm headed with this... but I just can't... okay kaali is on now.. ttyl :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dev will take Nimai's place in the rajhans' household.. only difference is Nimai will still be remembered and maybe Samar would be forgotten... I have no idea where I'm headed with this... but I just can't... okay kaali is on now.. tty
Alka This is the most painful part.His life is coming 2 a complete ruin with the punishment of his misdeeds which most of them he did 4 his father 2 prove himself and by the end of the show he will be headed 2 the gallows or subjected 2 life imprisonment.What sadens me is that as a young man he never had the basic necessity of a woman's love nor a chance 2 view things outside his upbringing which true love could have encouraged him 2 do it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: akku8910

Dev will take Nimai's place in the rajhans' household.. only difference is Nimai will still be remembered and maybe Samar would be forgotten... I have no idea where I'm headed with this... but I just can't... okay kaali is on now.. tty

Alka This is the most painful part.His life is coming 2 a complete ruin with the punishment of his misdeeds which most of them he did 4 his father 2 prove himself and by the end of the show he will be headed 2 the gallows or subjected 2 life imprisonment.What sadens me is that as a young man he never had the basic necessity of a woman's love nor a chance 2 view things outside his upbringing which true love could have encouraged him 2 do it.

OMG I'm crying... i agree!! I bet you because of his father he never got to do what normal boy do... have a million gfs (hopefully not at the same time :P) party it out after grad... experience everything which makes life... and by the end of this show, this man this guy is either going to die or be locked up for life! I feel so bad for ST... yes he killed someone... but has anyone thought why? he's going to jail for murder... but will he get a chance to explain (I don't think so, with Rajneesh being their lawyer) locked away for life... everyone will forget about him... Rajneesh will take his place and he will be a wandering soul forever... and I'm so attached to ST right now that I just wont be able to watch this.. knowing that he was born in and lived in a jail (metaphorically)... he died in a jail (literally) its just so sad that a man with such potential... maybe of redemption... of so many emotions to just be... forgotten :(

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