Why Pia can't genuinely be in love?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Why do we find it impossible to believe the Pia can actually and genuinely be in love with Jai Walia? Why every time she confesses her love, we decide that she is just lusting after his money or the status that one enjoys, by the virtue of being a woman in Jai Walia's life. Pia has been a person who never shied away from confessing her feelings for another person; she comes out straight in the open. When she hated Jai Walia she made it clear to him and now when she is in love with him she stated it as clearly as possible.

She cringed every time Jai touched her before their marriage; she hated the fact that he was too old for her, why would she desire a physical relationship with him now, since it is the same Jai Walia who she left at her wedding altar to face humiliation of people: why would she desire him physically now, as it was one of the reasons she left Jai Walia for.She cannot desire Jai just because of his display of concern and care for Bani.
Is it really the case that she is jealous of Bani because of her position as the Lady of the house or because of Bani's position in Jai's life and his family? Why are we questioning her love because she refuses to give up on a man she loves? Just because it is not moralistic, she will be blamed for loving her Sister's husband?
One question always bugged me- Why Pia eloped with Pushkar on her wedding day-because she genuinely loved Pushkar or because she was scared of her life with Jai Walia,a rich man but too old for her? JW promised her all the happiness money could buy, but it did not guaranteed the satisfaction (emotional and physical) that a wife should get from her man. Was she somewhere deep within, scared of her future with Jai Walia?
Why do we think Pia is incapable of truly loving someone? Is it just because she is materialistic, values money and the things it can buy?But it is not the basic human nature to crave forthings you do not have or something you can't have? And wasn't Jai Walia the same kind, before Bani made him realize that he is capable of falling in love? Why we refuse to believe that Jai made Pia realize true love just like Bani made him realize the value of true love. Can it not be, that Pia felt for Pushkar what Jai felt for Roshini and her at one point of time and now, just like Jai loves Bani (still in doubt about it but…), Pia can actually be in love with Jai
Jai's concern for Pia is not love (Quote: Cordelia).Agreed…. Jai has made it clear to Pia that he wants Bani in his life but never stated the reasons to Pia, clearly as to why he wants that- because of his social and moral obligations and duty as a husband or because he truly deeply loves Bani. I will not blame Pia for being under impression that Jai still harbors feelings for her. The way Jai made his stand clear to her every time was very vague and it can easy be misconstructed for something else than the true intentions behind the statement. He needs to come out clean with Pia regarding his feelings for Bani, if he really wants her to move on.

This is not a Pia bashing topic but just think and answer to the post.Are we ignoring Pia stand on the entire thing beccause our culture, our morals, does not allow these practises or we hate Pia because as a human being,what she is doing is wrong?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I dont hate her and do belive she loves jai but jai deosnt. Before she never really knew jai but think since she got to know him she felt different.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I don't disagree pia is not in love with jai. No woman could submit herself to a man whom she doesn't love.Pia is not that type of girl but her love for jai is not true. If her love was not true she would have definitely left jai and forget him.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool_subha2006

I don't disagree pia is not in love with jai. No woman could submit herself to a man whom she doesn't love.Pia is not that type of girl but her love for jai is not true. If her love was not true she would have definitely left jai and forget him.



That is what I am also asking. Is it necesary to sacrifice in love. If Bani tomorrow comes to know that Jai and Pia had a ONS ,and she decides to stays back and makes Jai and Pia's life miserable,will we say that her love is not true because she refuses to give up on Jai and her relationship.Given the situation that Jai has still not confessed his love top Bani.Does Jai and Bani being married makes all the difference.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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No we wouldnt say that Pia is not in love with Jai, but the reasons and the way she puts things are not rite! Its not necessary that u need to give up a person whom u love, then only its called love, but when Jai proposed Pia and when she agreed to marry him, it was only for financial security and she eloping with Pushkar was also u can say was not willingly, she was double minded even at that time! When Bani requested her to come back, she was ready to, but again Pushkar spoke so much about their love, their happiness so on which changed her mind again and even at that time, she didnt think will it harm someone or not!! She has always thought about her happiness first, thinking about yr own happiness is not wrong, but not at the cost of someone's emotions or life rite? Even when she aborted Pushkar's kid, the word she used to him were bad! Whatever u might have done, he is the person whom u loved and also yr husband, if not for love atleast for the respect she shouldnt hv told him that he is not capable of being a father and she compared him to Jai Walia always! If she was genuine in all her feelings and it was not for materliastic things, then why did she keep comparing Pushkar with Jai Walia? And why she keeps cribbing about she did a mistake and makes other's life miserable! Yr emotions and love for someone should not be forced and u cannot throw yrself to that extent what Pia has done!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I do agree what you mean that she should be happy for jai whatever ! but one of the main things is pias selfish and shes selfish in love as well.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahimn



That is what I am also asking. Is it necesary to sacrifice in love. If Bani tomorrow comes to know that Jai and Pia had a ONS ,and she decides to stays back and makes Jai and Pia's life miserable,will we say that her love is not true because she refuses to give up on Jai and her relationship.Given the situation that Jai has still not confessed his love top Bani.Does Jai and Bani being married makes all the difference.

Jai and bani are married in the true sense of the term now and want to live with each other, Don't u think it is fair to fall for a married man. When she did that thing with jai she didn't knew bani loved jai and also they were divorced but now she knows everything abt their relationship.It is enough for her to know that both of them want to live with each other. There is no question of sacrifice. Jai doesn't belong to pia so how can she sacrifice? It is totally one sided.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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mahimn,
a well written pov.
but the reason i for one am not willing to grant that Pia 'loves' jw is this:
according to me pia does not know what love is. in her books or terminology, love=whatever pia happens to want at any point in time.
she has always claimed to love her sisters but all of her actions have always put them in difficulty or problems. even if u grant that some of them were unwitting, then u can not escape the conclusion that she is selfish, acts without thinking how her actions will affect others.
ok, she was not happy w jw, then why did she run the way that she did, instead of going to him and telling him so?
JW had not coerced her, he had asked her....and Bani&Rano did not deserve to be left alone at the atlar facing the fury of a jilted groom.
Pia repeats ad nauseaum, that 'that night changed her life.' she says what happened was love....ok, but she is delusional if she says that'love' was reciprocated, a drunk jw said 'no,' pushed her off. so, even if it was love, it was clearly so only on pia's part, not jw.
what was it that suddenly made her fall in 'love' w jw?
watching him pine after bani, displaying such trust in bani, always putting bani's wishes above anything else....and for pia this was a contrast w puhky, at whose hands she considered herself to have been badly treated....so again, her 'love'=pia's comfort!
btw, one night w jw she can't forget, even when he was drunk, and she literally threw herself at him....but all of those nights w pushky had no meaning? and pushky was the one for whom she abandoned everything and everyone, including money....so clearly for pia, money is love......and if she loved her sis even 1/2 as much as claims would she really want to destroy Bani's home? because that is what pia is asking for everytime she is not willing to let go of that night....

i think the problem is that Pia is stuck in a time warp....she is still stuck in the moment of her wedding when both jw and pushky loved her......everyone else and everything else has moved on save pia. she still cannot move on from that moment...she has to be the one wanted by everyone, loved by everyone....and how on earth can anyone want Bani over her? clearly jw says he wants bw only because of duty etc. warna pia aur bani main choice ho aur jw BW ko chune? Pia thinks that to be impossible....
whereas the truth is, that even w/out the ons pia as a person is not very likeable...
after ons, she is despicable...

man, she is awful!!!

whew! that was a long ramble!
sorry for venting. hope i did not offend anyone.
armana
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: armana

mahimn,
a well written pov.
but the reason i for one am not willing to grant that Pia 'loves' jw is this:
according to me pia does not know what love is. in her books or terminology, love=whatever pia happens to want at any point in time.
she has always claimed to love her sisters but all of her actions have always put them in difficulty or problems. even if u grant that some of them were unwitting, then u can not escape the conclusion that she is selfish, acts without thinking how her actions will affect others.
ok, she was not happy w jw, then why did she run the way that she did, instead of going to him and telling him so?
JW had not coerced her, he had asked her....and Bani&Rano did not deserve to be left alone at the atlar facing the fury of a jilted groom.
Pia repeats ad nauseaum, that 'that night changed her life.' she says what happened was love....ok, but she is delusional if she says that'love' was reciprocated, a drunk jw said 'no,' pushed her off. so, even if it was love, it was clearly so only on pia's part, not jw.
what was it that suddenly made her fall in 'love' w jw?
watching him pine after bani, displaying such trust in bani, always putting bani's wishes above anything else....and for pia this was a contrast w puhky, at whose hands she considered herself to have been badly treated....so again, her 'love'=pia's comfort!
btw, one night w jw she can't forget, even when he was drunk, and she literally threw herself at him....but all of those nights w pushky had no meaning? and pushky was the one for whom she abandoned everything and everyone, including money....so clearly for pia, money is love......and if she loved her sis even 1/2 as much as claims would she really want to destroy Bani's home? because that is what pia is asking for everytime she is not willing to let go of that night....

i think the problem is that Pia is stuck in a time warp....she is still stuck in the moment of her wedding when both jw and pushky loved her......everyone else and everything else has moved on save pia. she still cannot move on from that moment...she has to be the one wanted by everyone, loved by everyone....and how on earth can anyone want Bani over her? clearly jw says he wants bw only because of duty etc. warna pia aur bani main choice ho aur jw BW ko chune? Pia thinks that to be impossible....
whereas the truth is, that even w/out the ons pia as a person is not very likeable...
after ons, she is despicable...

man, she is awful!!!

whew! that was a long ramble!
sorry for venting. hope i did not offend anyone.
armana


.armana,

I, too, am against Pia and I do not consider her feelings for Jai Walia as love but what made me write this post was a thought that are we being ignorant of Pia.What if she really loves Jai and we are refusing to accept that because she has essentially been a trouble maker for other peoplearound her. Of course not, You did not offended anyone every one has a right to have their own views.
Edited by mahimn - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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PIA well she only loves money..........she is not in love with Jai. Pia is so digusting 🤢

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