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Posted: 12 years ago
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After watching yesterday's episode I am dismayed . I have all along vehemently opposed this secret studying track and continue to do so. I know change takes time and it is a herculean task to change a traditional mindset like that of Bhabo. There were opportunities in the past to pressurise her into accepting ,which were clearly missed by the CVs. The standard argument given by most was that to be in the intensely competitive telly world a lot of drama is required to sustain audience interest. This secret studying will ensure aangan dramas for the future. That is why neither Suraj blackmailed his mother nor Sandhya opened her mouth when the time was ripe to tell Bhabo. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to claim you are introducing Nayi soch. Maybe I understood it wrongly. It is Nayi Soch not for the older generation ,but for the younger generation to cheat and lie behind your elder's back to get around them. I have been quoting Gita in many of my posts. Our religious texts teach us to fight and win. Lord Krishna did not ask Arjun to leave the battlefield and kill his enemies in the night. Mahabharat was an open confrontation where treacherous means were used like the killing of Karna or Drona ,here also emotional blackmail of Bhabo instead of Sandhya could have done the trick.
Bhabo has many flaws in her character. She is egoistic and ensures that her writ runs large in the Parivar. She is a product of a traditional society and behaves no differently than others in her milieu. Except for one or two revolutions in history all revolutions and changes have met with severe resistance. Suraj does not want to hurt his mother , so decides not to confront her. The sense of hurt and betrayal that too from the person she loves the most in the world is going to be far greater for Bhabo than any open confrontation Suraj has with his mother on the issue. Yes, you will argue did she care for Suraj when she called him a mere halwai and burnt the admission form. If Suraj does the same how is he different from her.
Coming to the highly unrealistic portrayal part
1. Sandhya a young girl going all alone in the night is very unrealistic. India is unsafe for girls especially the North. .
2. Her argument that she has future IPS aspirations is again flawed. You are given vigorous training for a year in Hyderabad for the same before you can face the unruly elements.
3. As Suraj said they always have huge convoys supporting them for operations. They don't do it alone.
4. Sneaking out every night with out family members noticing is again unrealistic.
5. Even if that happens in a small neighbourhood like Hanuman galli. others will notice you leaving and people will get back to Bhabo.
6.Studying without anyone knowing in a house where there is very little privacy and anybody can walk into your room is the height of unrealistic portrayal.
7. If the taxi driver friend story is true than also it is unrealistic because If a man and a woman are seen travelling in the middle of the night alone than the natural conclusion in a conservative society will be of an affair between the two. It is Pushkar we are talking about.
8. The youngsters may argue that girls do go for call center jobs in the night. Yes they do but mostly in bigger cities and with the approval of their parents not on the sly.
I am all for women's rights and liberation but when a serial is made with a certain type of society in the background which through the serial they seek to change the portrayal of the society has to be realistic. That I am sorry to say in this track has been disappointing.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Since the Top Chef competition, this show has been so unrealistic😡

Suraj wins the WTC by winning one round blindfolded...in my opinion, no chef can do it given the situation unless you have done so before many times...and Suraj had never done it.
Then Sandy single-handedly thwarting Rajkumar and his ambitions while the whole police force was shown in poor light...Sandy running so fast and that too in a saree while the whole TRAINED hatte katte police force is nowhere near...WAH..kyaa baat hai!!!!!!!
Then Meena taking out money from the bank when the account is in Suraj's name...she does not know what ATM card PIN # is and what we see is how easy it is to withdraw money from a family member's account...is there any bank in INDIA that will let this happen????? I cannot withdraw money from my Dad's account unless I know the pin...no bank will help me without my Dad's consent...here CV's show it is a piece of cake.
Now Sandy travelling to Ajmer which is 4 hours from Pushkar to attend night college. In which part of the world do such college exisit???? The timings of the college are so unrealistic!!!!!!!
Sandy sneaking out of the house...UFF!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder this forum is so cold for so many days...not enough going on here...only a few hard core SurYa fan remain loyal...No Naye Soch...same old, same old...TOO FILMY and TOO UNREALISTIC.!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by timepass - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: timepass

Since the Top Chef competition, this show has been so unrealistic😡

Suraj wins the WTC by winning one round blindfolded...in my opinion, no chef can do it given the situation unless you have done so before many times...and Suraj had never done it.
Then Sandy single-handedly thwarting Rajkumar and his ambitions while the whole police force was shown in poor light...Sandy running so fast and that too in a saree while the whole TRAINED hatte katte police force is nowhere near...WAH..kyaa baat hai!!!!!!!
Then Meena taking out money from the bank when the account is in Suraj's name...she does not know what ATM card PIN # is and what we see is how easy it is to withdraw money from a family member's account...is there any bank in INDIA that will let this happen????? I cannot withdraw money from my Dad's account unless I know the pin...no bank will help me without my Dad's consent...here CV's show it is a piece of cake.
Now Sandy travelling to Ajmer which is 4 hours from Pushkar to attend night college. In which part of the world do such college exisit???? The timings of the college are so unrealistic!!!!!!!
Sandy sneaking out of the house...UFF!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder this forum is so cold for so many days...not enough going on here...only a few hard core SurYa fan remain loyal...No Naye Soch...same old, same old...TOO FILMY and TOO UNREALISTIC.!!!!!!!!!!


Thank you for your inputs. I endorse the view that the show has shown many unrealistic things like her marriage year conveniently converted to zero academic year. She passes second year with Chavvi and is going to third year with her with Chavvi attending college all along. Yes I accept the ATM fraud is difficult not to detect and the terrorism track was also filmy. By the way the distance between Ajmer to Pushkar is only 10 to 11 kms , that is a 15 min drive by taxi or scooter not 4 hrs. Be as it may I agree with you that the serial has started going on extremely unrealistic lines surpassing all limits of rationality in the name of remaining ahead in the TRP race.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Finally, AK-47 fired in the full swing.🤪.🤣.

I was about to add following point but you'd covered it:-. "The youngsters may argue that girls do go for call center jobs in the night. Yes they do but mostly in bigger cities and with the approval of their parents not on the sly." -- I didn't take approval of my parents. They're unaware about it until I informed them. If I asked them then they'd never allowed me to work.👎🏼.

So, Sorry I have nothing to offer..😔..

I better go for a jogging with Oppan Gangam Style..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ami_dabh

Finally, AK-47 fired in the full swing.🤪.🤣.

I was about to add following point but you'd covered it:-. "The youngsters may argue that girls do go for call center jobs in the night. Yes they do but mostly in bigger cities and with the approval of their parents not on the sly." -- I didn't take approval of my parents. They're unaware about it until I informed them. If I asked them then they'd never allowed me to work.👎🏼.

So, Sorry I have nothing to offer..😔..

I better go for a jogging with Oppan Gangam Style..

Ami did you study in a hostel away from home or were at home and left every night. for your call center work ? I do not believe you can sneak out every single day unnoticed by your parents to work. If it was hostel or PG than there lies your answer. Any way thanks for your inputs.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I was living @ hostel till 1st year of college life then living as a PG till date.

Thanks for what kinda inputs?? I neither gave my input nor output..

@MSN n SaMir aunty:n rest of the senior gang(😈):- Visit "Baati of the week" thread n reply ladyterp aunty's quest:- Why DABH CV's picked up characters name as "Sooraj" and "Sandhya". I need senior gang's help to explain n clear her doubt. My brain isn't working in that direction.😵 😒..

Sorry to spam the thread. Par kya karoo. I've full authority to do it..

Tera Tera pyar mukka maar..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A trademark 'UMDU ji post' after a long time! You've made some valid points UMDU ji. The only thing I would say is that your points are based on that which hasn't happened yet. The CVs will most likely unfold the story and add in other factors to make the story somewhat believable (Expecting an Indian daily soap to be 100% realistic is unrealistic 😕). And maybe SurYa will be shown running into the problems that you mentioned (which would also be realistic). Come to think of it, the fact that the future track seems to be laden with so many potential problems shouldn't be surprising, as this creates fertile ground for high-end drama (today's precap being a case in point). As for SurYa 'deceiving' bhabho: it might be more powerful to show SurYa making this mistake and then living with the consequences, than to show them as being ideal humans/children. But again, I don't feel comfortable getting into the bhavishyavani business 😆.

As for the events that have already happened (as mentioned by timepass), it is true that the drama has been exaggerated at points. But IMO, I don't feel the CVs went overboard on the important points. Suraj winning round while blindfold: Not hard to imagine since he is after all the protagonist; moreover, in a recent Masterchef season (in USA), a blind contestant won the entire competition! Sandhya in terrorism track: again, she is the protagonist, so she has to be special na? 😆 Ok, it was a bit exaggerated, but it was needed for the story. Meena's ATM situation: not hard to believe as she had the letter with the pin code on it and the other customer helped her; like you said, it's not hard to withdraw cash if you have the card and the pin. Sandhya's night school: like UMDU ji said, Ajmer isn't that far; as for the timings, I wouldn't know as my knowledge of night colleges in India is limited 😕.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree completely. I love that Suraj is doing so much to help Sandy go back to school and all, but the way they are going about to do that is wrong. And that, takes away some of the essence of Sandy going back to school in the first place... But I am sure that they will realize too that not only is this wrong, but they will face problems in this too! I mean, how can Sandhya go to college every night, all the way to Ajmer and back, without anyone noticing! The proof was shown in tonight's episode itself- basically everyone was doing something, and not in their room and asleep! If Sandhya keeps attending night college, sooner or later someone is bound to get suspicious!

But, CVs have their way of fixing all these problems and I'm just going to wait and see what they have up their sleeves! 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -SamiR-

A trademark 'UMDU ji post' after a long time! You've made some valid points UMDU ji. The only thing I would say is that your points are based on that which hasn't happened yet. The CVs will most likely unfold the story and add in other factors to make the story somewhat believable (Expecting an Indian daily soap to be 100% realistic is unrealistic 😕). And maybe SurYa will be shown running into the problems that you mentioned (which would also be realistic). Come to think of it, the fact that the future track seems to be laden with so many potential problems shouldn't be surprising, as this creates fertile ground for high-end drama (today's precap being a case in point). As for SurYa 'deceiving' bhabho: it might be more powerful to show SurYa making this mistake and then living with the consequences, than to show them as being ideal humans/children. But again, I don't feel comfortable getting into the bhavishyavani business 😆.


As for the events that have already happened (as mentioned by timepass), it is true that the drama has been exaggerated at points. But IMO, I don't feel the CVs went overboard on the important points. Suraj winning round while blindfold: Not hard to imagine since he is after all the protagonist; moreover, in a recent Masterchef season (in USA), a blind contestant won the entire competition! Sandhya in terrorism track: again, she is the protagonist, so she has to be special na? 😆 Ok, it was a bit exaggerated, but it was needed for the story. Meena's ATM situation: not hard to believe as she had the letter with the pin code on it and the other customer helped her; like you said, it's not hard to withdraw cash if you have the card and the pin. Sandhya's night school: like UMDU ji said, Ajmer isn't that far; as for the timings, I wouldn't know as my knowledge of night colleges in India is limited 😕.

Thank you SamiRji for your inputs. I like your practical take on things , but my problem is my die hard romantic predisposition. I wanted the future tracks to be full of romance atleast 50% of the serial time devoted to that. This past one year went by without DBC. We accepted it hoping for it to take place sometime in the near future. With so many problems as listed by me , all their energy and thinking will go into solving them and remaining tense all the time. Kya apko lagta hai aise mahol main romance possible hai ?Let me be politically correct here and say , we watch the serial for other reasons as well like a supportive husband, fight against traditional mindset etc etc...However the main USP of the serial is the romance between Suraj and Sandhya. If that takes a backseat permanently and we are made to wait indefinitely than the serial to my mind will lose its charm.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Superb post maam 👍🏼
the whole show is so fake🥱
i hv stopped watching it since last 2 weeks
just make a sneak peek at this forum for knowing the happenings in the show


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