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1. There is too much spamming & chatting which r not related to the show..Avoid it please . This forum has Chat club for that purpose.
2. Too much actor praising . We have Appreciation threads for it. Members can utilize it for that purpose. This is not to say it will not be allowed here . DC members can praise our actors in terms of looks , chemistry and acting for sure but without going overboard and hopefully limited to the scope of our show Punar Vivah.
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---------------------2. Too much actor praising . We have Appreciation threads for it. Members can utilize it for that purpose. This is not to say it will not be allowed here . DC members can praise our actors in terms of looks , chemistry and acting for sure but without going overboard and hopefully limited to the scope of our show Punar Vivah.
3. Please stop bringing past resume/shows discussion of the actors needlessly.
4. Absolutely no personal lives talk will be entertained anymore. If you want to discuss GC or KS's personal life , this thread is not the place.
5. If you reserve on the first page (or even if you accidentally post there) you must fill that post with something relevant to the episode, be it a short or long take, a fiction piece, pictures or videos.
Hey all! I just caught the episode and there is not much to write about it except to express my disgust at the Dubeys. If I really wanted to, I could bring myself to sympathise with them partially, but for some reason, if there is a kid involved I don't even want to try understanding the psyche of the adults, let alone justifying it!
It is ironic, the loops that they are bringing around a full circle though. Look who is treating Ansh, Palak and Payal differently now! And no, it is not the evil Gayatri or the pota-obsessed SP. It is Shobha and Dubey and while they are not doing it in the literal way that Gayatri did, this is much more dangerous for Ansh and the girls' relationship. Today Ansh was already rejoicing that he got to play with all his sister' toys by himself; won't this cultivate a sense that he is a favourite with the Dubeys over Palak and Payal, that somehow he is closer and more precious to them? Isn't that exactly what Gayatri got all those brickbats for in the beginning of the show, for making Ansh feel excluded and second-rate in comparison to Palak and Payal?
It is true that Gayatri had trouble accepting Ansh, and still does at times but she has never made any bones about why she felt that way: because she thought that Ansh and Aarti were so wrapped up in each other that they wouldn't be able to mix with the rest of the family. I am not discounting all the hateful things she said and did, but with her bluntness, once Aarti made the commitment to see things from Gayatri's perspective and really tried to be the DIL she wanted, Gayatri was all heart for her and Ansh. All that is spinning in my head as I think about the episode is Gayatri suggesting to Aarti, just before Yash agreed for Mumbai, that Ansh should go along with Palak and Payal to Arpita's maika.
In addition, Gayatri never made any bones about the fact that her priority was the happiness of Yash and the girls. As soon as she realised that Aarti was committed to fulfilling that role with all her heart, rather than achieving her own ends and taking advantage of Yash with this marriage, she accepted Aarti whole-heartedly, though this didn't change her priorities about Yash's happiness being the most important thing out of the marriage. It's not fair, sure, but at least Aarti knows exactly where she stands with Gayatri at any given time, depending on how happy Yash is. She loves Gayatri and she knows Gayatri loves her, but their relationship is never going to be a direct one because it will always be about Yash in some capacity...and that is fine because both of them are sincere in this relationship, though it might not be without restrictions or boundaries. In short, Gayatri has never promised Aarti more than she can deliver in terms of the relationship.
Shobha, on the other hand is completely playing with Aarti's emotions. Aarti is under the impression that Shobha hates Prashant and wants nothing to do with him. Shobha is the one that forced Aarti to forget Prashant (all too literally) and move on with Yash, and now Aarti is going to find that she has been lying to her and helping Prashant behind her back. Shobha promised Aarti a mother's love for life and today, by blackmailing Aarti into leaving Ansh with them, by putting Prashant's needs above hers, Shobha violated the very essence of her relationship with Aarti as well as her relationship with Ansh. It is not about helping Prashant, which I wouldn't dream of faulting her for, but rather the fact that she is deceiving Aarti, by omitting the truth of why she no longer hates Prashant, in order to help him. She promised Aarti that she was a daughter and with the way she behaved today, she treated her like no better than a means to an end.
In many ways, the Dubeys negated the selfless gesture of Aarti's PV by asserting their "rights" over Aarti and Ansh, through emotional blackmail. Shobha was especially despicable because she knows just what will make Aarti melt and doesn't hesitate for a moment to use that very jibe..."don't you trust us anymore?" It is a highly sensitive button to push with regards to Aarti because she knows that Aarti doesn't trust easily, thanks to her abandonment issues.
This is why Aarti needs Yash to be in on the situation as soon as possible. Because she is so trusting and emotionally susceptible to the Dubeys, they will continue to take advantage of her trust, putting Ansh further and further at risk. She needs someone who can put their foot down for Ansh and not allow him to be a pawn in this treacherous game the Dubeys are playing. It kind of hit me though. The same Aarti who was utterly distraught at the idea of leaving Ansh at the Dubeys for a few days at the time of the wedding, now seems more than secure doing so. It shows that she has stopped depending on Ansh herself, emotionally, thanks to the strength and security she gains from all her other relationships. Similarly, the same Ansh, who wouldn't accept the excuse that his grandparents would be lonely and he had to stay with them for a while, at the wedding, is now more than happy to oblige. At the time of the wedding, he too was insecure about his relationships, especially with his naye papa, whom he must have thought would disappear if he took his eyes off him. At that time, Ansh also saw himself as Aarti's guardian and Aarti as his whole world, so he had to be with her. Now he knows he is leaving her in safe hands and is happy to be self-centred kid, enjoying all the toys himself, without his sisters.
The sad part about the whole thing is that Aarti and Ansh have made so much progress in learning to trust relationships that they no longer cling to each other for deal life. But this very trust is going to do them in thanks to the Dubeys and Prashant, who are taking advantage of a refuge that they could not or would not build themselves, because of which they don't fathom its value and fragility. And their callous handling of it will no doubt raze that faith to the ground. The only solace in the whole situation is that Ansh and Aarti are in the safe hands of someone who has the strength of character, and the capacity for love, to build their trust back up, brick by brick, because no matter how much the Dubeys toss it around like a worthless object, their trust means everything to him.
It is ironic, the loops that they are bringing around a full circle though. Look who is treating Ansh, Palak and Payal differently now! And no, it is not the evil Gayatri or the pota-obsessed SP. It is Shobha and Dubey and while they are not doing it in the literal way that Gayatri did, this is much more dangerous for Ansh and the girls' relationship. Today Ansh was already rejoicing that he got to play with all his sister' toys by himself; won't this cultivate a sense that he is a favourite with the Dubeys over Palak and Payal, that somehow he is closer and more precious to them? Isn't that exactly what Gayatri got all those brickbats for in the beginning of the show, for making Ansh feel excluded and second-rate in comparison to Palak and Payal?
It is true that Gayatri had trouble accepting Ansh, and still does at times but she has never made any bones about why she felt that way: because she thought that Ansh and Aarti were so wrapped up in each other that they wouldn't be able to mix with the rest of the family. I am not discounting all the hateful things she said and did, but with her bluntness, once Aarti made the commitment to see things from Gayatri's perspective and really tried to be the DIL she wanted, Gayatri was all heart for her and Ansh. All that is spinning in my head as I think about the episode is Gayatri suggesting to Aarti, just before Yash agreed for Mumbai, that Ansh should go along with Palak and Payal to Arpita's maika.
In addition, Gayatri never made any bones about the fact that her priority was the happiness of Yash and the girls. As soon as she realised that Aarti was committed to fulfilling that role with all her heart, rather than achieving her own ends and taking advantage of Yash with this marriage, she accepted Aarti whole-heartedly, though this didn't change her priorities about Yash's happiness being the most important thing out of the marriage. It's not fair, sure, but at least Aarti knows exactly where she stands with Gayatri at any given time, depending on how happy Yash is. She loves Gayatri and she knows Gayatri loves her, but their relationship is never going to be a direct one because it will always be about Yash in some capacity...and that is fine because both of them are sincere in this relationship, though it might not be without restrictions or boundaries. In short, Gayatri has never promised Aarti more than she can deliver in terms of the relationship.
Shobha, on the other hand is completely playing with Aarti's emotions. Aarti is under the impression that Shobha hates Prashant and wants nothing to do with him. Shobha is the one that forced Aarti to forget Prashant (all too literally) and move on with Yash, and now Aarti is going to find that she has been lying to her and helping Prashant behind her back. Shobha promised Aarti a mother's love for life and today, by blackmailing Aarti into leaving Ansh with them, by putting Prashant's needs above hers, Shobha violated the very essence of her relationship with Aarti as well as her relationship with Ansh. It is not about helping Prashant, which I wouldn't dream of faulting her for, but rather the fact that she is deceiving Aarti, by omitting the truth of why she no longer hates Prashant, in order to help him. She promised Aarti that she was a daughter and with the way she behaved today, she treated her like no better than a means to an end.
In many ways, the Dubeys negated the selfless gesture of Aarti's PV by asserting their "rights" over Aarti and Ansh, through emotional blackmail. Shobha was especially despicable because she knows just what will make Aarti melt and doesn't hesitate for a moment to use that very jibe..."don't you trust us anymore?" It is a highly sensitive button to push with regards to Aarti because she knows that Aarti doesn't trust easily, thanks to her abandonment issues.
This is why Aarti needs Yash to be in on the situation as soon as possible. Because she is so trusting and emotionally susceptible to the Dubeys, they will continue to take advantage of her trust, putting Ansh further and further at risk. She needs someone who can put their foot down for Ansh and not allow him to be a pawn in this treacherous game the Dubeys are playing. It kind of hit me though. The same Aarti who was utterly distraught at the idea of leaving Ansh at the Dubeys for a few days at the time of the wedding, now seems more than secure doing so. It shows that she has stopped depending on Ansh herself, emotionally, thanks to the strength and security she gains from all her other relationships. Similarly, the same Ansh, who wouldn't accept the excuse that his grandparents would be lonely and he had to stay with them for a while, at the wedding, is now more than happy to oblige. At the time of the wedding, he too was insecure about his relationships, especially with his naye papa, whom he must have thought would disappear if he took his eyes off him. At that time, Ansh also saw himself as Aarti's guardian and Aarti as his whole world, so he had to be with her. Now he knows he is leaving her in safe hands and is happy to be self-centred kid, enjoying all the toys himself, without his sisters.
The sad part about the whole thing is that Aarti and Ansh have made so much progress in learning to trust relationships that they no longer cling to each other for deal life. But this very trust is going to do them in thanks to the Dubeys and Prashant, who are taking advantage of a refuge that they could not or would not build themselves, because of which they don't fathom its value and fragility. And their callous handling of it will no doubt raze that faith to the ground. The only solace in the whole situation is that Ansh and Aarti are in the safe hands of someone who has the strength of character, and the capacity for love, to build their trust back up, brick by brick, because no matter how much the Dubeys toss it around like a worthless object, their trust means everything to him.
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