Episode 114 Discussion: 31st Oct 2012

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Episode 114 Discussion: 31st Oct 2012


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? šŸ˜‰. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.
Today's WU from : Armu4eva
  • There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
  • Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
  • The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
  • The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace ant post/thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3264280/episode-113-discussion-30th-oct-2012
  • Collated EOD summary of 30th Oct Episode discussion, if one is just reading updates and not watching the episodes.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/68369536�


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Posted: 12 years ago
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EOD Episode 114 Discussion summary


Events of the Episode:
  1. Malik - RK confrontation ends with RK beating sense into Shamsher's head as to think on how he would face his daughter if she gets to know that he tried to kill her husband.
  2. Malik wants to leave RK mansion asap giving all kinds of suspicious vibes to his daughter, Padmini and Dips at his haste.
  3. Madhu works on her suspicions and attributes the source to be RK and goes to confront him. RK silences her informing her that her father had come to meet him and he gave his regular dose. Madhu's suspicion turns to confirmation then that RK must have said something bad to her Dad.
  4. Biwi is angry and doesn't want to feed her husband, doesn't want to look at him and doesn't even talk to him. She acts as if she is still the old contracted spot girl of yore who has no chance except to hate RK and service him.
  5. Shauhar is upset seeing an angry Biwi, with her old attitude with regards to him, where she used to consider him incapable of human feelinfs.
  6. Shauhar - Biwi confrontation follows -Biwi, Why are you upset. Tell me. Biwi, Silent. Then accusing Shauhar that he humiliated her father. To be continued tomorrow.

Episode Takes:
Page 2 - Soundarya, FQ

RK-Shamsher confrontation
Page 1 - himbin, SD,

Shamsher
Page 5 - Peach, Preet
Page 6 - SD

RK - Madhu scenes ( Many types of discussions - silent treatment by Madhu, addressing the silence by RK and confrontation, the underlying regard for Madhu's sentiments, the awakenings of love within RK).
Page 1 - himbin, SD
Page 5 - PreetD
Page 6 - PreetD , SD

RK's contemplation
http://www.telly tadka.net/telly-tadka-spice/madhubala-eiej-rk-disclose-malliks-secret-madhuk-disclose-malliks-secret-madhu/

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Manesha ko hats off.ā­ļø She had predicted in her 'Prediction Thread' that RK would offer even-stevens to Shamsher - the latter's one near-death experience for RK's three.😃 RK ke dialogues are damn effective.šŸ‘ He doesn't even know that he has brought Shamsher's brain at least temporaily back on track by forcing him to acknowledge what will happen vis-a-vis Madhu if RK does die.
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Wow..!! the whole episode is just superb...Rishabala scene no words to describe... full of
passionate emotions...RK wants his biwi to feed him now...he was hurting so bad when
Madhu was saying all those rude words to him...she is affecting him really bad...not able to bear her silence...is ready to wait whole life for her answer

The way he dealt with Shamsher knocking some sense in to him as to how his actions would
effect Madhu classic RK...The dialogue that he says here...the blood that would flow from his
body would be of Madhu's and THAT he wouldn't be able to bear may be,Mallik does said it all...he
is worried not for his life but,for Madhu...her sacrifice,the pain her love would cause her...he now values his life not for himself but,for his beloved as he is HER love now...truly amazing the way he thinks and values feelings and emotions...all he cares for is the honesty and purity...dilution doesn't work for RK...the answer he gave for why he is the way he is...just outstanding...


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Hi Shridevi,

Just peeped in here to say a big thank you for compiling all the FQnama's in a single place 😊. I had been looking forward to it for a while now.

About today's epi, I haven't seen it yet. Will be back if I have something to say. Till then, ciao.

Thanks again!

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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Manesha ko hats off.ā­ļø She had predicted in her 'Prediction Thread' that RK would offer even-stevens to Shamsher - the latter's one near-death experience for RK's three.😃 RK ke dialogues are damn effective.šŸ‘ He doesn't even know that he has brought Shamsher's brain at least temporaily back on track by forcing him to acknowledge what will happen vis-a-vis Madhu if RK does die.


compleltely agree with you leela.. I just hope.. Shammu has got his senses back and now does not kill RK..

Just loved today's episode!! amzingg... hehehheh.. especiallyy no Mr. India style Khana khilana... hayyeee.. rishuu you are just so adorable that I want to come hug youuu.. when he does little things for his biwi...

Oh noo.. RK is going to send her away due to his guilt... when in that promo they showed he was giving madhu a file.. My heart stopped beating for a sec... I thought... SHIITTT!! he is sending her away by withdrawing the contract and freeing her...
But when it actually happened I breathed a sigh of relief... thank goD!!!

kyaa dialoguee mile RK ko aaj... waah wah.. I was laughing out loud when he was interacting with his SASUR-JI... hahahaha... ayee hayee... kya sasur-ji bolta hai... ahahahhaha

and the mosst hilarious scene was... kya dum-dabake sasurji bhaagee... ahahahhaha.. He thought RK would tell madhu... hahahahhaha wow!!! without this he is so guilt ridden and not even facing his daughter now.. how is he going to face his daughter after his murders her husband...

RK ne sahi kaha... was he thinking that betii bhaagti hui aayegi.." i love u MERI KHOONI PITAA" hahahahahahh oh god!!! just superbbb!!!

Today was RK 's dayyy!!! just classic!!

And it was good he is relaising those mistakes.. and how he has hurt madhu.. Guilt has made its way to RK's mind and heart.. He will soon send madhu packing back to her father... :( :( I don't want that...


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Originally posted by: himbin

Wow..!! the whole episode is just superb...Rishabala scene no words to describe... full of

passionate emotions...RK wants his biwi to feed him now...he was hurting so bad when
Madhu was saying all those rude words to him...she is affecting him really bad...not able to bear her silence...is ready to wait whole life for her answer

The way he dealt with Shamsher knocking some sense in to him as to how his actions would
effect Madhu classic RK...The dialogue that he says here...the blood that would flow from his
body would be of Madhu's and THAT he wouldn't be able to bear may be, he does said it all...he
is worried not for his life but,for Madhu...her sacrifice,the pain her love would cause her...he now values his life not for himself but,for his beloved as he is her love now...truly amazing the way he thinks and values feelings and emotions...all he cares for is the honesty and purity...dilution doesn't work for RK...the answer he gave for why he is the way he is...just outstanding...



completely SECOND you Himbin... superb!! truly RK-style EPI tha... woww!! I just can't erase the smile off my face... WOWW!!! Thank god there was no precap yesterday... This epi did not need one... it was just amzing... they fooled us to thinking that Madhu opened their door and RK was shocked that madhu discovered them... wow!!! wow!! woo!!!
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Ignoring the Occam's Razor's principle.
Why is it difficult to understand RK ? Everyone seems to ponder.
And what an irony it is that those people who want to know him so much, when he explains him in simple words, people say "Apni Bakwaas Band karo!" Why would they want to look for other explanations.

Today Shamsher does that at one time. It was pathetic how Shamsher decided to just ignore what RK was saying about him respecting his actions as he understands a father's emotions. That Shamsher then had to be pulled back from his flying horses when RK recedes back to employ his histrionics and show him, if in all of this vendetta, does he actually think what his daughter would have to say for his actions. We have been all along saying this that Shamsher has lost it. So finally one human contact with his mind and actions has made him see sanity. Once I compared Shamsher to Raskolnikov. The act pleases him more than the consequences. That's what happened today. Shamsher suddenly realized what all of this means and where it was leading to.

Today Madhu too decided to look beyond RK simple explanation as that answer was not serving the purpose of her curiosity. Then why does she ask a rhetorical question, instead of direct one? That takes me back to Radhaji, who is so happy to misunderstand her son.

We may not have liked that from Madhu, but Madhu was being herself. All in her character. When has she ever analysed anything like RK. She has always jumped to conclusions. LIke Leela says, so happy with her vain trait of being self-righteous. She would have really taken the fight to a dirty slandering fight, but RK bestows the dignity to it by cutting her in the middle and giving her anger a proper direction and making her ask the right question to him.

Of course RK wanted the fight to happen in a proper manner, because, wasn't he thinking about her a few minutes back when she brought him his food. All it takes to understand another person is to be receptive to information and letting go of our assumptions. RK was doing that. He understood Shamsher's anger and obsession. And continuing on the same he tries to understand Madhu and her limits unto obsession for sacrificing her life to save her adopted father. RK remembers Madhu's facts about her real father. This is his way of looking at Madhu's emotions.


Other than people around RK ignoring that simple principle of life to take things at face value than assumptions, the episode had nice progression in terms of underlying story. How ?

The embers turning into flints
No doubt that RK-MB love story is a fiery one. But today, I felt on the deeper level of emotions calling for RESOLUTIONS, RK's heart decided for him that, his hate story for Madhu may still have the embers there, but he would rather start using flints to create the spark needed for his love story. And today he embarked on that journey.

Have we all not noticed, how it bothered RK that Madhu was angry and not talking to him. Well in the past she was his puppet. He needed to control her every thought process as he always watched her. Even today he is disturbed like his earlier days. His anxiety, body language and concern everything was showing that he wants to know what's going on in her mind. But the difference was also starkly noticeable. Today, it was a genuine concern as to why this eccentric Biwi of his has gone into silent mode. He knew that he did not do anything that should have caused her pain. Then why? That concern and curiosity could have been easily quenched through his arrogant questioningm but RK coaxes Madhu through using her own previous states like referring to her as Mr.India.

So somewhere along RK has started to feel that he does not want his wife to think bad about him or close herself to him. And so when rightly he has not hurt her in any manner, why would she close herself to him? That really was paining him. A lot. He was almost about to blurt why Shamsher was there giving out the true reason to be in her good books, He was so vulnerable out there in his want of her warmth and nearness. But soon the stronger man within him prevails and against his own desires, he assumes not begging for warmth self and assumes his secretive magnanimous self and cares for his Biwi's heart like a good samaritan by stopping himself.
Of course he is RK, he is sure to twist his way out of that diffucult situation imposed by his wife. And that another wait until tomorrow.šŸ˜†

All in all very interesting and moving episode. With good focus on all the rest of the characters mannerisms. None have regressed but progressed today.

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Such a great epi..dvd rockd it..

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