long post on past week.

Hi All,

So I read all the updates, posts and comments on the happenings in PR this past week. I myself have tried to refrain from watching the episodes ( although I did watch segments) because I was sure, either my IQ will drop by 100 points or I may actually lose sanity ( half of which I did). However, one thing I am understanding is that, this is a show and ultimately Ekta's little baby that she manipulates as and when to suit viewers needs, TRP's and whatever else that counts, and hence trying to make sense of it or finding any reality in it is like searching for fool's gold.
But, I am very intrigued by the different reactions by people on the events that unfolded last week, be it Arjun-Purvi-Ovi debacle of a twist or Archana's new found marital bliss. And this prompted me to be as objective as I can try to be and write what I make of it, what I think will happen, ofcourse from the CV;s point of view and what "should" technically happen if this was real life, combining everyone else's views including mine, Dabulls, kools, Jai, Kalapi, "J" and anyone else I might forget to mention. IT is a summary of what I collected from everyone else on this forum :)

Purvi-Arjun-Ovi ' I think they all thought they were overtly mature for their age when taking such life-altering drastic decisions without consulting any elders, but they actually behaved innately immature. Although, if you look at their "portrayed" ages, it can be expected. But now, they did what they had do and are stuck with this ordeal for the rest of their lives. Technically, Arjun and Ovi should now decide to move on and make this work. And Purvi should know this was "the end" and she should also resolve to start over again. There is no place for regret here. Hence, the advise that Archana gave Ovi today was absolutely in line with a mother's thought process for her children ( Purvi and Ovi). However, what is to keep in mind is the definition of marriage for most people. It is definitely a revered institution and I consider it to be pretty holy to treat it so loosely that you can interchange husbands as and when you may like. But, does it mean that you stick it out in marriage no matter what the spouse is like, or what the foundation of your marriage has been? I lwrote a post on the same about how Ovi struck a deal and Arjun only found out about it later. Yes, he did what he did for Purvi, but he was still oblivious to the main reason behind this absurd demand from Purvi. If Ovi had never approached Purvi with such an idea, Purvi may never have been in such an emotional dilemma. Yes, if someone tells you, give me this and I will give your mother's happiness back, it makes you think and then if you don't do the deal, you are guilty for life and if you do it, you are a fool for life. So yes, putting the thought forward was the main reason this scenario worked out. In this case, I believe Ovi was wrong and cheated Arjun into this marriage. Such a disregard for marriage as a holy union and for such a wrong foundation, I think Arjun-OVi would never work out. And it would be wrong to show it so. I mentioned that it means that blackmailing, suicide threats and conniving can be used to get into a marriage "Deal" and since it has been blessed in a temple with the holy gods watching over, it will work out no matter what. For this reason alone they would never show Arjun-Ovi making this marriage work. IT simply won't happen and I can guarantee that.

In real life, it may, if you realize the futility of your decisions but know that marriage is a big deal and you might, like Archana said "through friendship" and building on trust, make it work. But, in the show CV's showing such a track would not be possible due to Ovi's underlying scheming foundation behind it. If they had shown Ovi to be a normal, nice girl who had been dumped by Arjun and then had to marry him for Archana's sake, then yes, by all means, they should show the marriage to be a happy one over time with Arjun eventually forgetting Purvi. This is what happens in many marriages where you have loved someone before but married someone else for whatever reason, you eventually just move on. But they have purposely given Ovi this dark side that is always looming in shades of selfishness and self-centredness, hence Arjun-Purvi re-union may not ruffle too many feathers. They have shown her to have a complete disregard for Arjun's feelings and emotions and so self-involved that all she is shown to care about is Arjun showering his attention and love on her, without any concern for Arjun;s true feelings. This by all means, cannot work out in her favor and make her the trophy wife she wishes to be. Arjun will NEVER be shown to love her after knowing the truth behind his marriage deal. His behavior towards her, as J said is not softening, it is indeed him being indifferent and impersonal. This itself is a sign that he may never accept her into his life and give her the place in his heart or mind as his wife. So Arvi fans can rest assured, Ovi may well be out on her way soon.

Now getting to Purvi, yes she may have called this upon herself and she might tenderly caress his photo whilst missing him, but I think it is normal. Yes, we are all super aggravated about her having fallen to this senseless sacrificial trap but it's been only a day and surely he got married to her sister, but how easy is it to forget the love they share and just get carried away by his picture. I thought that was natural. Also, I do agree that her whole idea was plain ridiculous, but I also understand her feelings about being indebted to her mother. She has seen the woman she loves most, the woman who has practically given her life when she was abandoned, cry and pine after her lost husband and family. Purvi may not know the background of Archana's foolish missteps in letting it happen, but she has seen the pain and suffering of her mother and if you get only one chance to repay this and give your mother everything she ever wanted, you would grab it. But, being so young as she is, she went too far in this game of give and take. She could have called off her wedding, and told Arjun they could not get together for her mother's happiness, but to force marriage upon him was outright ridiculous on her part. Anyway, what is done is done and now Purvi must learn to move on and remember that her debt is paid off and she owes nothing more to the D family. This includes forcing Arjun to "love" Ovi or give her "any" adhikaar. Ovi asked you for him, you told him to marry her, he did it in his conscious self and now what becomes of their marriage is their concern. Hence, Ovi asking Purvi to go away and Purvi obliging is just the death of Purvi's character that was once fiery, independent and had a clear head upon her shoulders.

Arjun, did this to himself. If he would have sat Ovi down long after his engagement broke off, and been the best friend that she needed, Ovi would have already realized the depth of his love for Purvi. Maybe Ovi would have also realized that she doesn't really "love" Arjun, she only "wants" him out of habit or out of obsession or just being friends for so long got muddled up with "love", who knows. Things would never have gone so far. He made mistakes then and he is paying for it now. Her first suicide attempt should have been his red light to get things straight. As a friend, that is the least he could do. But I guess, men are reduced to candy floss whilst in love in this show, so he obviously could see nothing but his love, Purvi. Agreeing to Purvi;s crazy demand was his nail in the coffin as a strong character. But, now he can redeem it. He made a mistake, realized it, and also uncovered the truth behind the deal and now he must spare neither, including himself. His behavior actually is good enough to show he might work on his marriage by "not" being rude or harsh with his wife, give her the nice but impersonal treatment, but he "may" never love her. His wrath on Purvi might be a waste as he got into this knowingly and "in love, for love" as he openly declared. Hence his anger is directed inwards and should be rightly so. But eye-locks with Purvi would only degrade his character. However, CV's will make sure they are pitted in office against each other by unintentional run-ins and the hate glowering from his eyes to eventually eye-lock therapy working it's way back into his mild mush heart. This is what garners TRP's ' romance. Yes "hateful romance" is also something people will enjoy watching as it is nostalgic of the couple's past for viewers. As wrong as it is, Arjun-Purvi are obviously quite the favorite and watching them together however wrong the circumstances might be is only beneficial for TRP's and viewer's satisfaction. In reality, I would expect them to just move away from each other as far as possible. Even if Arjun's marriage is not acceptable to him, going back to stealing glances at Purvi is simply wrong. Divorce Ovi if you have to, but carrying on your charade while still pining for your ex-lover is not right at all. However, like I said reality is not exactly Ekta's forte.

Purvi will move on, will rejoin Manav's office and will meet Sameer Rane. She might get into an alliance with him for all the wrong reasons again. They will show this, since she might want Arjun to move on. However this is wrong and I condemn such things. This is what happened with Shravani too and simply putting someone else's life or feelings at stake for you to move on or for you to perform your responsibilities is not right at all. Of course, they will show her run from the alter leaving Rane high and dry like Shravani was left long back. I may not be surprised if they show Ovi "asking" her to do it and the little lamb agrees for whoever's sake it is. But Rane will be in the picture, even if just to ignite Arjun's raging anger further or the jealousy factor which might be the new dimension in ARVI love track. They have to show this because no one is going to accept a love quadruple without any more hope of disentanglement from the mess.

I hate to say this but, if they really need to show ARVI back together, the only "right" way would be to kill off Ovi's character. Yes, he may be her sister's husband, but they will have to show their marriage to never have consummated for this to seem sensible. Only then, would it truly make it "okay" to get her back in his life. Death of a spouse is valid reason for re-marriage unless Arjun becomes wild and kills her himself. LOL. A pregnancy track is only another ridiculous element in claiming any "pavitra rishta" of any sort. You cannot go hook up with you lover before marriage, then hand him over to your sister and then come back pregnant with his child and finally showing that Arjun finds out about this and Ovi decides to "give him' up. That would be outright ridiculous and I have a feeling even though the hut scene has been let off like a loose wire, they won't build on it. Viewer's have a certain image of Archana and subsequently a certain image of Purvi and to kill that would be a bigger uproar than the Ovi-Arjun wedding track. This show garners it's USP as adhering to middle class families and their values and to go against them for the lead character would spell disaster. Hence, I have a feeling pregnancy might not be a track at all.

What I think will happen, keeping in mind the overt emphasis this show has on sacrifice, selflessness and sanskaars, is that Ovi will "give" Arjun up for Purvi's happiness. If past records are anything to go by, Ovi will be learning Sacrifice 101 by Archana and Sanskaar 101 by Sulo, now that poor Savi has become the villain and the ousted professor, teachings of life have been taken over by the former two. Slowly, steadily they will show Ovi see Arjun unhappy, realize the futility of her marriage and may even sympathize with Purvi's suffering and her Mahaanta at giving up everything. She then, will probably just follow mother and sister's footsteps and hand over the husband that she never could get a hold on, to his rightful master. And with an emotional tear-jerking episode, ARVI will be re-united and we will all be reminded about the selflessness that human beings have the ability to possess and what a virtue it is. (whatever)

All in all, this show derives its name from a relationship that is pure and true and the song spells out as " pavitra rishta tere mere man ka". This is my take, but I think they have never meant marriage to be the pavitra rishta that binds people, otherwise Madhuri should have been Dharmesh's wife. Also, if marriage was pavitra, it wouldn't be tossed around by Manav-Archana for 18 years or for Shravani for that matter. Pavitra Rishta as this show portrays is more about the relationship of the heart, mind and soul that two people have with each other. Manav-Archana have been shown to have that, despite the mistrust, the misunderstandings, the loss of 18 years, what stayed put was the feeling they have for each other and the love that comes with it. This is what they have build ARVI upon too and I am pretty sure marriage according to them is just a bind that can easily be unbound as long as your heart, mind and soul belong to this one person throughout your life. This is not my personal take but just what I have noticed that they show in PR, which is why I am sure Arjun-Purvi will be back together, as ridiculous they may make the reason to be. This is what the show is about and this is what most viewer;s ultimately want to see. :P

After such a long post, I realize how much time I have wasted putting this down, so don't have the patience to go into Manav-Archana right now, but may do a post over the weekend if my thoughts get the better of me. I can't believe this turned out so long, sorry guys, but I guess I won't write anymore for a while, so might as well have it out there and see how the show goes on :P :P😃

Hi Pooja,

Jai :) What a wonderful write-up about the original "pavitra rishta". I have to agree, that you have absolutely hit the nail on the head. I took long to realize it after the amount f agitation and frustration that came with the ARVI separation track, but I realized that if I detach reality and real life situations from the show, then the point the show is making is very clear since day 1. It is the "relationship" or the "soul mate" 'ship' that has been the highlight of this show since Manav-Archana. Lies, deciet, mistrust, misunderstandings, pain, suffering, anger and even marriage can all come and go, what remaines distilled is pure love and this soul-binding with another person.

Hence, from now on, I am not going to get very charged about the technicalities of marriage or divorce or anything else and keep in mind the point which is pure true love between two people that is indestructible even in light of the most adverse circumstances as ArMan have truly shown us in the past 3 years. :))

IT may be right or wrong, but this show is adhering to this concept and it is doing well because of that. They are very successful so far in showing a beautiful relationship between two people, where you get so involved that you sometimes forget to separate reel and real and you laugh with them and cry with them and ultimately rejoice when they are together. Even though Archana and Manav behaved like fools in the past, or did so much wrong to each other, when they got together, everyone was happy because it was their love that triumphed, and conveniently all their missteps in the past were forgotten. Same way, they will play this route with Arvi too. How and when is the question. Will it be Ovi turning a new leaf, will it be pregnancy or will it be Rane helping the lovers realize, or it could be Soham. Who knows! All in all, at the end of the day, people will rejoice and be happy when ARVI re-unite as well, forgetting all the past deeds they both have done. :)😊

Thanks for making it so clear, it leaves me calmer than before to watch this show without involving myself in details :P just for Arman and for Arvi. Just my POV, so hope noone takes offense !

very mature thots and equally mature replies...love em...gives a lot of positive hope😊

Splendid post pari87. Enjoyed reading every bit of it. Agree with you completely on the Arjun part. He did this on himself and that he should have set himself down with Ovi and cleared out everthing with her. Then, maybe his life would have been different now. He would have been with the love of his life, Purvi. Again, lovely, lovely post my dear I truly enjoyed reading it, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep on writing like this.

Whao how did you type so much...
I will read it now.

My dear pari,

You do not need to apologise for the length of this post, not only is it excellent enough for the length to be irrelevant, but the folks in the forum have by now got used to my 2 pagers!

Jokes apart, your comprehensive analysis is so good that I am sure you would have no problems with any doctoral thesis that you might have to do! You have here demonstrated the ability to collate the views of others, take from them what seems worthwhile, and then add your own tadka to the mix. Very nice.

As for @red, that is what is the most likely. It should please all the Arjun-Purvi fans, of whom I was one, as also one of Arjun's stoutest defenders and supporters, till the Arjun-Ovi marriage. Now I am barely interested in what might happen to either of them. Nor do I like the endless flashbacks of their old scenes together; they seem farcical to me now.

Nor did I understand all that angry babbling of Arjun's about a sauda, when he comes to see Purvi at her home.

He was clearly told by Purvi on the hill top that (a) she was dumping him and making him marry Ovi so that (b) her mom would be accepted by the Deshmukhs Was that not a deal in itself? The only extra now is that he has learnt that Ovi and Purvi have specifically agreed on these terms. Otherwise Purvi had told him all the terms directly.

If he had had the sense to ask Purvi how (b) would follow from (a), he would have found out about the sauda on the hilltop itself. What would then have changed? Nothing, seeing how completely Purvi controls him. This guy is supposed to be a very capable businessman, something that always calls for due diligence on every deal. What due diligence did he do on this one?

As for what Purvi is going thru, she should be rejoicing over it, like the martyrs down the ages. Have Archana and Sulochana not tearfully anointed her act as the mahaanatam tyaag, trumping even her mom's? Well then, why would they or she herself, bother about any suffering she might be going thru? That goes with the territory for such mahaan tyaagis.

Even if the tyaag turned out, as it did, to be pointless, for as Manav told DK, he had no intention of getting back with Archana because of what Purvi had done. The now sickly sweet Archana-Manav-her parivaar reunion was solely due to the discovery - by Teju - of what Savita (and Sachin) had been up to.

One last point about Purvi getting back with Arjun. In a 1981 Amitabh-Rekha-Jaya Bhaduri film, Silsila, Amitabh does a Manav and marries his dead brother's fiancee, who is then expecting his brother's child. To do this, he dumps his girlfriend, Rekha, without a word of explanation. Later, he runs into her, and though she is now married as well, the old flame is rekindled. He has never grown to care for or love his wife, and with the intoxication of old love taking hold of him anew, he runs away with an initially reluctant Rekha.

At that point, an old friend, who was full of admiration for his earlier tyaag in marrying his brother's beloved to save her reputation, has some plain advice for him. "When you did that" he says, "you became a devta. You can become a devta from a man. But you cannot become a man again from a devta. That would be totally unacceptable".

This sage advice would hold for Purvi as well. Not that this will deter either the 90% of the forum that roots for her, or the CVs. I only hope she does not end up doing a Jaya in Silsila. That would be too gross to take.

Nor should she ever commit the mistake of taking up a job in Manav's firm, or anywhere where she is likely to run into Arjun. That would be bad for her and for him, and would seriously dilute the tyaag factor, for it will obviously seem as if she is angling for him all over again.

It was very unfeeling and selfish of Ovi to suggest to Archana that Purvi should be asked to go away from Mumbai. But if I was Purvi (though I really cannot see myself being so terminally stupid!!), this is exactly what I would have done on my own, taking Sulochana along for company.

It is in fact the Standard Operating Procedure for those crossed in love, and the kindest thing they could do for themselves. I was really surprised that while the justifiable cries of outrage against Ovi were very numerous, not one person suggested the above for Purvi as a healing technique. Curious!

See how interesting your post was; I have typed far more that is at all good for my wrist! But I think it was called for.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: pari87

Hi All,

So I read all the updates, posts and comments on the happenings in PR this past week. I myself have tried to refrain from watching the episodes ( although I did watch segments) because I was sure, either my IQ will drop by 100 points or I may actually lose sanity ( half of which I did). However, one thing I am understanding is that, this is a show and ultimately Ekta's little baby that she manipulates as and when to suit viewers needs, TRP's and whatever else that counts, and hence trying to make sense of it or finding any reality in it is like searching for fool's gold.
But, I am very intrigued by the different reactions by people on the events that unfolded last week, be it Arjun-Purvi-Ovi debacle of a twist or Archana's new found marital bliss. And this prompted me to be as objective as I can try to be and write what I make of it, what I think will happen, ofcourse from the CV;s point of view and what "should" technically happen if this was real life, combining everyone else's views including mine, Dabulls, kools, Jai, Kalapi, "J" and anyone else I might forget to mention. IT is a summary of what I collected from everyone else on this forum :)

Purvi-Arjun-Ovi ' I think they all thought they were overtly mature for their age when taking such life-altering drastic decisions without consulting any elders, but they actually behaved innately immature. Although, if you look at their "portrayed" ages, it can be expected. But now, they did what they had do and are stuck with this ordeal for the rest of their lives. Technically, Arjun and Ovi should now decide to move on and make this work. And Purvi should know this was "the end" and she should also resolve to start over again. There is no place for regret here. Hence, the advise that Archana gave Ovi today was absolutely in line with a mother's thought process for her children ( Purvi and Ovi). However, what is to keep in mind is the definition of marriage for most people. It is definitely a revered institution and I consider it to be pretty holy to treat it so loosely that you can interchange husbands as and when you may like. But, does it mean that you stick it out in marriage no matter what the spouse is like, or what the foundation of your marriage has been? I lwrote a post on the same about how Ovi struck a deal and Arjun only found out about it later. Yes, he did what he did for Purvi, but he was still oblivious to the main reason behind this absurd demand from Purvi. If Ovi had never approached Purvi with such an idea, Purvi may never have been in such an emotional dilemma. Yes, if someone tells you, give me this and I will give your mother's happiness back, it makes you think and then if you don't do the deal, you are guilty for life and if you do it, you are a fool for life. So yes, putting the thought forward was the main reason this scenario worked out. In this case, I believe Ovi was wrong and cheated Arjun into this marriage. Such a disregard for marriage as a holy union and for such a wrong foundation, I think Arjun-OVi would never work out. And it would be wrong to show it so. I mentioned that it means that blackmailing, suicide threats and conniving can be used to get into a marriage "Deal" and since it has been blessed in a temple with the holy gods watching over, it will work out no matter what. For this reason alone they would never show Arjun-Ovi making this marriage work. IT simply won't happen and I can guarantee that.

In real life, it may, if you realize the futility of your decisions but know that marriage is a big deal and you might, like Archana said "through friendship" and building on trust, make it work. But, in the show CV's showing such a track would not be possible due to Ovi's underlying scheming foundation behind it. If they had shown Ovi to be a normal, nice girl who had been dumped by Arjun and then had to marry him for Archana's sake, then yes, by all means, they should show the marriage to be a happy one over time with Arjun eventually forgetting Purvi. This is what happens in many marriages where you have loved someone before but married someone else for whatever reason, you eventually just move on. But they have purposely given Ovi this dark side that is always looming in shades of selfishness and self-centredness, hence Arjun-Purvi re-union may not ruffle too many feathers. They have shown her to have a complete disregard for Arjun's feelings and emotions and so self-involved that all she is shown to care about is Arjun showering his attention and love on her, without any concern for Arjun;s true feelings. This by all means, cannot work out in her favor and make her the trophy wife she wishes to be. Arjun will NEVER be shown to love her after knowing the truth behind his marriage deal. His behavior towards her, as J said is not softening, it is indeed him being indifferent and impersonal. This itself is a sign that he may never accept her into his life and give her the place in his heart or mind as his wife. So Arvi fans can rest assured, Ovi may well be out on her way soon.

Now getting to Purvi, yes she may have called this upon herself and she might tenderly caress his photo whilst missing him, but I think it is normal. Yes, we are all super aggravated about her having fallen to this senseless sacrificial trap but it's been only a day and surely he got married to her sister, but how easy is it to forget the love they share and just get carried away by his picture. I thought that was natural. Also, I do agree that her whole idea was plain ridiculous, but I also understand her feelings about being indebted to her mother. She has seen the woman she loves most, the woman who has practically given her life when she was abandoned, cry and pine after her lost husband and family. Purvi may not know the background of Archana's foolish missteps in letting it happen, but she has seen the pain and suffering of her mother and if you get only one chance to repay this and give your mother everything she ever wanted, you would grab it. But, being so young as she is, she went too far in this game of give and take. She could have called off her wedding, and told Arjun they could not get together for her mother's happiness, but to force marriage upon him was outright ridiculous on her part. Anyway, what is done is done and now Purvi must learn to move on and remember that her debt is paid off and she owes nothing more to the D family. This includes forcing Arjun to "love" Ovi or give her "any" adhikaar. Ovi asked you for him, you told him to marry her, he did it in his conscious self and now what becomes of their marriage is their concern. Hence, Ovi asking Purvi to go away and Purvi obliging is just the death of Purvi's character that was once fiery, independent and had a clear head upon her shoulders.

Arjun, did this to himself. If he would have sat Ovi down long after his engagement broke off, and been the best friend that she needed, Ovi would have already realized the depth of his love for Purvi. Maybe Ovi would have also realized that she doesn't really "love" Arjun, she only "wants" him out of habit or out of obsession or just being friends for so long got muddled up with "love", who knows. Things would never have gone so far. He made mistakes then and he is paying for it now. Her first suicide attempt should have been his red light to get things straight. As a friend, that is the least he could do. But I guess, men are reduced to candy floss whilst in love in this show, so he obviously could see nothing but his love, Purvi. Agreeing to Purvi;s crazy demand was his nail in the coffin as a strong character. But, now he can redeem it. He made a mistake, realized it, and also uncovered the truth behind the deal and now he must spare neither, including himself. His behavior actually is good enough to show he might work on his marriage by "not" being rude or harsh with his wife, give her the nice but impersonal treatment, but he "may" never love her. His wrath on Purvi might be a waste as he got into this knowingly and "in love, for love" as he openly declared. Hence his anger is directed inwards and should be rightly so. But eye-locks with Purvi would only degrade his character. However, CV's will make sure they are pitted in office against each other by unintentional run-ins and the hate glowering from his eyes to eventually eye-lock therapy working it's way back into his mild mush heart. This is what garners TRP's ' romance. Yes "hateful romance" is also something people will enjoy watching as it is nostalgic of the couple's past for viewers. As wrong as it is, Arjun-Purvi are obviously quite the favorite and watching them together however wrong the circumstances might be is only beneficial for TRP's and viewer's satisfaction. In reality, I would expect them to just move away from each other as far as possible. Even if Arjun's marriage is not acceptable to him, going back to stealing glances at Purvi is simply wrong. Divorce Ovi if you have to, but carrying on your charade while still pining for your ex-lover is not right at all. However, like I said reality is not exactly Ekta's forte.

Purvi will move on, will rejoin Manav's office and will meet Sameer Rane. She might get into an alliance with him for all the wrong reasons again. They will show this, since she might want Arjun to move on. However this is wrong and I condemn such things. This is what happened with Shravani too and simply putting someone else's life or feelings at stake for you to move on or for you to perform your responsibilities is not right at all. Of course, they will show her run from the alter leaving Rane high and dry like Shravani was left long back. I may not be surprised if they show Ovi "asking" her to do it and the little lamb agrees for whoever's sake it is. But Rane will be in the picture, even if just to ignite Arjun's raging anger further or the jealousy factor which might be the new dimension in ARVI love track. They have to show this because no one is going to accept a love quadruple without any more hope of disentanglement from the mess.

I hate to say this but, if they really need to show ARVI back together, the only "right" way would be to kill off Ovi's character. Yes, he may be her sister's husband, but they will have to show their marriage to never have consummated for this to seem sensible. Only then, would it truly make it "okay" to get her back in his life. Death of a spouse is valid reason for re-marriage unless Arjun becomes wild and kills her himself. LOL. A pregnancy track is only another ridiculous element in claiming any "pavitra rishta" of any sort. You cannot go hook up with you lover before marriage, then hand him over to your sister and then come back pregnant with his child and finally showing that Arjun finds out about this and Ovi decides to "give him' up. That would be outright ridiculous and I have a feeling even though the hut scene has been let off like a loose wire, they won't build on it. Viewer's have a certain image of Archana and subsequently a certain image of Purvi and to kill that would be a bigger uproar than the Ovi-Arjun wedding track. This show garners it's USP as adhering to middle class families and their values and to go against them for the lead character would spell disaster. Hence, I have a feeling pregnancy might not be a track at all.

What I think will happen, keeping in mind the overt emphasis this show has on sacrifice, selflessness and sanskaars, is that Ovi will "give" Arjun up for Purvi's happiness. If past records are anything to go by, Ovi will be learning Sacrifice 101 by Archana and Sanskaar 101 by Sulo, now that poor Savi has become the villain and the ousted professor, teachings of life have been taken over by the former two. Slowly, steadily they will show Ovi see Arjun unhappy, realize the futility of her marriage and may even sympathize with Purvi's suffering and her Mahaanta at giving up everything. She then, will probably just follow mother and sister's footsteps and hand over the husband that she never could get a hold on, to his rightful master. And with an emotional tear-jerking episode, ARVI will be re-united and we will all be reminded about the selflessness that human beings have the ability to possess and what a virtue it is. (whatever)

All in all, this show derives its name from a relationship that is pure and true and the song spells out as " pavitra rishta tere mere man ka". This is my take, but I think they have never meant marriage to be the pavitra rishta that binds people, otherwise Madhuri should have been Dharmesh's wife. Also, if marriage was pavitra, it wouldn't be tossed around by Manav-Archana for 18 years or for Shravani for that matter. Pavitra Rishta as this show portrays is more about the relationship of the heart, mind and soul that two people have with each other. Manav-Archana have been shown to have that, despite the mistrust, the misunderstandings, the loss of 18 years, what stayed put was the feeling they have for each other and the love that comes with it. This is what they have build ARVI upon too and I am pretty sure marriage according to them is just a bind that can easily be unbound as long as your heart, mind and soul belong to this one person throughout your life. This is not my personal take but just what I have noticed that they show in PR, which is why I am sure Arjun-Purvi will be back together, as ridiculous they may make the reason to be. This is what the show is about and this is what most viewer;s ultimately want to see. :P

After such a long post, I realize how much time I have wasted putting this down, so don't have the patience to go into Manav-Archana right now, but may do a post over the weekend if my thoughts get the better of me. I can't believe this turned out so long, sorry guys, but I guess I won't write anymore for a while, so might as well have it out there and see how the show goes on :P :P😃

Wow! Shyamala, there you come out of your temporary self-imposed exile again (pardon me if I'm wrong, cos we don't hear from you much these days) and present us with yet another one of your brilliant masterpieces. Perfect, Shyamala! (just read it the way Madhuri says it in Jhalak) Well! Sometimes I wonder if anyone of the PR cvs ever comes and reads these well written, analytical and thesis quality materials and discuss them. I don't think so because then they would have stopped writing low grade stories a long time ago. In this age and time we have 3 girls all going for Arjun as if he was the only eligible man in Mumbai. As I wrote in another post - Punni has enough brains to run her own company successfully and earn her own millions, yet she is shown scheming and conniving on how to get this man who belongs to her sister. Ovi, goes to work for just one day and that is it. Now, she is fully satisfied with serving tea to her husband, who sits there moping instead of getting ready and going to his office. And as for Purvi, she is all ready to just sit at home and babysit Sulo and shed tears for Arjun, who she gave up without a second thought. If this is what this generation of youngsters are capable of then what can I say. Shyamala, do continue to enthrall us with your articles, please. PR is worthless but all the posts are just mind blowing!

My dear Namita,

Now that was a pepper upper! Thanks a ton.I am so glad you like this piece and even more so that you share my irritation with all the characters in this contrived triangle. I am by now clearly at the 'a plague on all your houses' stage, and I do not think I can ever revive the affectionate, indulgent pleasure with which I watched Arjun-Purvi from February to August. They get on my nerves now, and she more than he.

You have captured the senseless downgrading of the female capabilities in PR far more graphically (though I have some doubts about Punni's ) than I have done so far. It is insane, this running after a man. All that is left now is for Purvi to start another round of tyaag,and look even drabber in the process, for she will never be allowed the costume changes hogged by her aai.

As for my posting very little these day, a tendon in my left wrist has got so badly inflamed that it hurts a lot when I type. It is called the carpal tunnel syndrome, and I am now trying to avoid an operation - I had one for a similar condition in Bangkok, in 1984 - by cutting down drastically on the amount of typing I do. It is a bit better now after a few days of not posting , but at any over-exertion, it starts up again, so I just have to be more disciplined for a while. Starting from now!!😉 I am typing this with my fingers almost vertical, to spare the wrist, but that is another kind of strain.

But you know, Namita, my heart is not in it any more. My favourites have had all charm drained out of them, and what is the point of commenting on such stuff? I find that when I do write anything nowadays, I only sound very irritated, and that is pointless both for the readers and for me. I cannot understand their failing to be logical where Purvi is concerned (as with the going away angle) and I am sure they are upset about my acidic takes on their (still) darlings.It is thus SO good to have a companion in you!!

I am now pinning all my hopes on Vishnu, and am prepared to forgive him all his criminal past if only he will rescue me (and you) from this morass of moral mendacity. Yes, yes, I know the last word is a trifle forced, but I could not help it, just look at the alliteration!. Shall we try "morass of moral meretriciousness' instead. Yes, that IS better, don't you think?

Shyamala

Originally posted by: namitagloryz

Wow! Shyamala, there you come out of your temporary self-imposed exile again (pardon me if I'm wrong, cos we don't hear from you much these days) and present us with yet another one of your brilliant masterpieces. Perfect, Shyamala! (just read it the way Madhuri says it in Jhalak) Well! Sometimes I wonder if anyone of the PR cvs ever comes and reads these well written, analytical and thesis quality materials and discuss them. I don't think so because then they would have stopped writing low grade stories a long time ago

In this age and time we have 3 girls all going for Arjun as if he was the only eligible man in Mumbai. As I wrote in another post - Punni has enough brains to run her own company successfully and earn her own millions, yet she is shown scheming and conniving on how to get this man who belongs to her sister. Ovi, goes to work for just one day and that is it. Now, she is fully satisfied with serving tea to her husband, who sits there moping instead of getting ready and going to his office. And as for Purvi, she is all ready to just sit at home and babysit Sulo and shed tears for Arjun, who she gave up without a second thought. If this is what this generation of youngsters are capable of then what can I say. Shyamala, do continue to enthrall us with your articles, please. PR is worthless but all the posts are just mind blowing!

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear pari,

You do not need to apologise for the length of this post, not only is it excellent enough for the length to be irrelevant, but the folks in the forum have by now got used to my 2 pagers!

Jokes apart, your comprehensive analysis is so good that I am sure you would have no problems with any doctoral thesis that you might have to do! You have here demonstrated the ability to collate the views of others, take from them what seems worthwhile, and then add your own tadka to the mix. Very nice.

As for @red, that is what is the most likely. It should please all the Arjun-Purvi fans, of whom I was one, as also one of Arjun's stoutest defenders and supporters, till the Arjun-Ovi marriage. Now I am barely interested in what might happen to either of them. Nor do I like the endless flashbacks of their old scenes together; they seem farcical to me now.

Nor did I understand all that angry babbling of Arjun's about a sauda, when he comes to see Purvi at her home.

He was clearly told by Purvi on the hill top that (a) she was dumping him and making him marry Ovi so that (b) her mom would be accepted by the Deshmukhs Was that not a deal in itself? The only extra now is that he has learnt that Ovi and Purvi have specifically agreed on these terms. Otherwise Purvi had told him all the terms directly.

If he had had the sense to ask Purvi how (b) would follow from (a), he would have found out about the sauda on the hilltop itself. What would then have changed? Nothing, seeing how completely Purvi controls him. This guy is supposed to be a very capable businessman, something that always calls for due diligence on every deal. What due diligence did he do on this one?

As for what Purvi is going thru, she should be rejoicing over it, like the martyrs down the ages. Have Archana and Sulochana not tearfully anointed her act as the mahaanatam tyaag, trumping even her mom's? Well then, why would they or she herself, bother about any suffering she might be going thru? That goes with the territory for such mahaan tyaagis.

Even if the tyaag turned out, as it did, to be pointless, for as Manav told DK, he had no intention of getting back with Archana because of what Purvi had done. The now sickly sweet Archana-Manav-her parivaar reunion was solely due to the discovery - by Teju - of what Savita (and Sachin) had been up to.

One last point about Purvi getting back with Arjun. In a 1981 Amitabh-Rekha-Jaya Bhaduri film, Silsila, Amitabh does a Manav and marries his dead brother's fiancee, who is then expecting his brother's child. To do this, he dumps his girlfriend, Rekha, without a word of explanation. Later, he runs into her, and though she is now married as well, the old flame is rekindled. He has never grown to care for or love his wife, and with the intoxication of old love taking hold of him anew, he runs away with an initially reluctant Rekha.

At that point, an old friend, who was full of admiration for his earlier tyaag in marrying his brother's beloved to save her reputation, has some plain advice for him. "When you did that" he says, "you became a devta. You can become a devta from a man. But you cannot become a man again from a devta. That would be totally unacceptable".

This sage advice would hold for Purvi as well. Not that this will deter either the 90% of the forum that roots for her, or the CVs. I only hope she does not end up doing a Jaya in Silsila. That would be too gross to take.

Nor should she ever commit the mistake of taking up a job in Manav's firm, or anywhere where she is likely to run into Arjun. That would be bad for her and for him, and would seriously dilute the tyaag factor, for it will obviously seem as if she is angling for him all over again.

It was very unfeeling and selfish of Ovi to suggest to Archana that Purvi should be asked to go away from Mumbai. But if I was Purvi (though I really cannot see myself being so terminally stupid!!), this is exactly what I would have done on my own, taking Sulochana along for company.

It is in fact the Standard Operating Procedure for those crossed in love, and the kindest thing they could do for themselves. I was really surprised that while the justifiable cries of outrage against Ovi were very numerous, not one person suggested the above for Purvi as a healing technique. Curious!

See how interesting your post was; I have typed far more that is at all good for my wrist! But I think it was called for.

Shyamala

Hello dear shayamala aunty,