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Posted: 13 years ago
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I can see I am the only one in the forum making an attempt to defend Arjun now, and realize ahead of time that I am really opening myself up to a lot of backlash here, but I have to do this for the sake of ARVI and ARVI fans:

I did post an earlier rant blasting the CVs for the character assassination. Based on the updates and everyone's opinions I guess I just went postal. However, now I have actually just watched the episode on Daily Motion and saw Arjun's dilemma for myself, and with my own two eyes. Here are my takes on this:
I am going to put myself out there and share a personal story: I have actually been in Arjun's place before myself: there is no worse guilty feeling in the world than being loved so much and not being able to love that person back. Without going into detail, the situation was the same: a very very close friend- and no matter how much I tried I couldnt go forward with it. I did eventually tell him, but in the process of trying to protect his feelings, due to my extreme guilt, I really managed to make the situation a whole lot worse: for both me and him.
Same thing with Arjun: my friend had done a whole lot for me- and he is under the extreme guilt of realizing just how much Ovi has done for him. She has given up her career and is currently facing a lawsuit. Is she an utterly dense Barbie doll, selfish, and self-centered: yes. But the fact is the fact: she is banking completely on a life with him- even to the point of giving up her career and he is the one who has to face that burden. Also, she mentioned her father several times: another knife to plunge into him: driving home the fact that there is more complicated than just the 2 of them.
I forced myself to watch the slow dance too. The boy is utterly uncomfortable, cant take his eyes off Purvi, and wishes the floor would open and swallow him up.
He has the misfortune to be burdened with a fool of a fiancee: never once has he told her "I love you" back, initiated any PDAs or anything except to try to tell her something important. Even before this engagement fiasco, he tried countless number of times and has the bad luck to be dealing with someone who cant seem to hear or see anything beyond what she wants to see and hear.
He is taking the higher road and trying to do the right thing despite knowing what kind of pain it is going to cost him: he knows how Purvi feels, and knows that Purvi is going to really be angry with him and misunderstand him. He is going to have to deal with her extreme ire (not to mention ours), and the accusation/anger- also the fear that she may hate him.
But the thought process is this: as Shyamala pointed out: It is Purvi who is loved. She has his heart. Ovi does not.
The torture and misunderstandings are Purvi's and ours to bear- for now. But the ultimate end result, the extreme heartbreak- is going to be Ovi's. Not Purvi's. Purvi is angry, pissed off, and fed up and so are we: but if she knows him as well as she claims to: she has to know how much she has changed him and how far he has come. There is no doubt that he loves her. But this is an impossible situation that does have to be approaced with delicacy.
One of the members in this forum asked: what would Purvi have done if she was in his shoes? Would she just blurt out the truth to the world and thus break Ovi's heart, embarrass her and her parents, not to mention her own father, and also pretty much alienate both families for the future without a thought? He knows Purvi will be really angry...but as he really truly does love her he hopes she will listen to the dliemma he is in and understand.
Which I have to say: this is what is needed. Communication. Instead of him blabbering and her cutting him off, he needs to tell Purvi what Ovi has done- tell her the dilemma he is in- and tell her why he feels so guilty. He feels guilt and wants to protect Ovi because we always end up feeling more guilt for the ones we do not love and whose heart we know we are going to break- not the ones we actually love. And she should listen to him and help him so that together they can figure a way out.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Arjun is a coward. full stop. He has had plenty of time and opportunities to tell Ovi the truth. The very truth he is reluctant to tell her will hurt her the longer he keeps quiet, never mind do irreparable damage to his relationship with Purvi. How can he let Purvi suffer time after time?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: archverma10

I can see I am the only one in the forum making an attempt to defend Arjun now, and realize ahead of time that I am really opening myself up to a lot of backlash here, but I have to do this for the sake of ARVI and ARVI fans:

I did post an earlier rant blasting the CVs for the character assassination. Based on the updates and everyone's opinions I guess I just went postal. However, now I have actually just watched the episode on Daily Motion and saw Arjun's dilemma for myself, and with my own two eyes. Here are my takes on this:
I am going to put myself out there and share a personal story: I have actually been in Arjun's place before myself: there is no worse guilty feeling in the world than being loved so much and not being able to love that person back. Without going into detail, the situation was the same: a very very close friend- and no matter how much I tried I couldnt go forward with it. I did eventually tell him, but in the process of trying to protect his feelings, due to my extreme guilt, I really managed to make the situation a whole lot worse: for both me and him.
Same thing with Arjun: my friend had done a whole lot for me- and he is under the extreme guilt of realizing just how much Ovi has done for him. She has given up her career and is currently facing a lawsuit. Is she an utterly dense Barbie doll, selfish, and self-centered: yes. But the fact is the fact: she is banking completely on a life with him- even to the point of giving up her career and he is the one who has to face that burden. Also, she mentioned her father several times: another knife to plunge into him: driving home the fact that there is more complicated than just the 2 of them.
I forced myself to watch the slow dance too. The boy is utterly uncomfortable, cant take his eyes off Purvi, and wishes the floor would open and swallow him up.
He has the misfortune to be burdened with a fool of a fiancee: never once has he told her "I love you" back, initiated any PDAs or anything except to try to tell her something important. Even before this engagement fiasco, he tried countless number of times and has the bad luck to be dealing with someone who cant seem to hear or see anything beyond what she wants to see and hear.
He is taking the higher road and trying to do the right thing despite knowing what kind of pain it is going to cost him: he knows how Purvi feels, and knows that Purvi is going to really be angry with him and misunderstand him. He is going to have to deal with her extreme ire (not to mention ours), and the accusation/anger- also the fear that she may hate him.
But the thought process is this: as Shyamala pointed out: It is Purvi who is loved. She has his heart. Ovi does not.
The torture and misunderstandings are Purvi's and ours to bear- for now. But the ultimate end result, the extreme heartbreak- is going to be Ovi's. Not Purvi's. Purvi is angry, pissed off, and fed up and so are we: but if she knows him as well as she claims to: she has to know how much she has changed him and how far he has come. There is no doubt that he loves her. But this is an impossible situation that does have to be approaced with delicacy.
One of the members in this forum asked: what would Purvi have done if she was in his shoes? Would she just blurt out the truth to the world and thus break Ovi's heart, embarrass her and her parents, not to mention her own father, and also pretty much alienate both families for the future without a thought? He knows Purvi will be really angry...but as he really truly does love her he hopes she will listen to the dliemma he is in and understand.
Which I have to say: this is what is needed. Communication. Instead of him blabbering and her cutting him off, he needs to tell Purvi what Ovi has done- tell her the dilemma he is in- and tell her why he feels so guilty. He feels guilt and wants to protect Ovi because we always end up feeling more guilt for the ones we do not love and whose heart we know we are going to break- not the ones we actually love. And she should listen to him and help him so that together they can figure a way out.

Hi Archana,
👏👏Thank you for pointing all these logical explanations for Arjun's behavior, at the risk of backlash...But you see we ARVI fans are thinking from the heart and not our heads...What you write makes sense, esp you having been in that situation...can only imagine...and therefore your greater ability to empathize with our dear Arjun. I also feel Ovi 's crush/infatuation will break but i am sure she will not wallow in self pity but move on...and if she becomes the avengeful types then...means she is not Arjun's true friend who does not take solace in the fact that friendship is different from love and that love is what Arjun feels for Purvi. Knowing the CVs they WILL NOT SHOW ANY COMMUNICATION between Arjun and Purvi, wouldn't that be the logical thing to do!
I think we all rationally understand your point, but our hearts are bleeding and we are so heartbroken that we don't even want to appreciate Arjun's predicament...much as we used to love him...we are hurting badly for Purvi...and don't have any glimmer of hope at all to revive our love or respect for Arjun...that is what we need...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes, Mannisha, also well said, Arjun had a lot of time in between to tell OVI and kept having obstacles in his way...
so that this day has come and now we should try to understand where he is coming from? Okay will do, but why didn't he tell Ovi in the many hajjjar instances he had...prior to this...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: archverma10

I can see I am the only one in the forum making an attempt to defend Arjun now, and realize ahead of time that I am really opening myself up to a lot of backlash here, but I have to do this for the sake of ARVI and ARVI fans:

I did post an earlier rant blasting the CVs for the character assassination. Based on the updates and everyone's opinions I guess I just went postal. However, now I have actually just watched the episode on Daily Motion and saw Arjun's dilemma for myself, and with my own two eyes. Here are my takes on this:
I am going to put myself out there and share a personal story: I have actually been in Arjun's place before myself: there is no worse guilty feeling in the world than being loved so much and not being able to love that person back. Without going into detail, the situation was the same: a very very close friend- and no matter how much I tried I couldnt go forward with it. I did eventually tell him, but in the process of trying to protect his feelings, due to my extreme guilt, I really managed to make the situation a whole lot worse: for both me and him.
Same thing with Arjun: my friend had done a whole lot for me- and he is under the extreme guilt of realizing just how much Ovi has done for him. She has given up her career and is currently facing a lawsuit. Is she an utterly dense Barbie doll, selfish, and self-centered: yes. But the fact is the fact: she is banking completely on a life with him- even to the point of giving up her career and he is the one who has to face that burden. Also, she mentioned her father several times: another knife to plunge into him: driving home the fact that there is more complicated than just the 2 of them.
I forced myself to watch the slow dance too. The boy is utterly uncomfortable, cant take his eyes off Purvi, and wishes the floor would open and swallow him up.
He has the misfortune to be burdened with a fool of a fiancee: never once has he told her "I love you" back, initiated any PDAs or anything except to try to tell her something important. Even before this engagement fiasco, he tried countless number of times and has the bad luck to be dealing with someone who cant seem to hear or see anything beyond what she wants to see and hear.
He is taking the higher road and trying to do the right thing despite knowing what kind of pain it is going to cost him: he knows how Purvi feels, and knows that Purvi is going to really be angry with him and misunderstand him. He is going to have to deal with her extreme ire (not to mention ours), and the accusation/anger- also the fear that she may hate him.
But the thought process is this: as Shyamala pointed out: It is Purvi who is loved. She has his heart. Ovi does not.
The torture and misunderstandings are Purvi's and ours to bear- for now. But the ultimate end result, the extreme heartbreak- is going to be Ovi's. Not Purvi's. Purvi is angry, pissed off, and fed up and so are we: but if she knows him as well as she claims to: she has to know how much she has changed him and how far he has come. There is no doubt that he loves her. But this is an impossible situation that does have to be approaced with delicacy.
One of the members in this forum asked: what would Purvi have done if she was in his shoes? Would she just blurt out the truth to the world and thus break Ovi's heart, embarrass her and her parents, not to mention her own father, and also pretty much alienate both families for the future without a thought? He knows Purvi will be really angry...but as he really truly does love her he hopes she will listen to the dliemma he is in and understand.
Which I have to say: this is what is needed. Communication. Instead of him blabbering and her cutting him off, he needs to tell Purvi what Ovi has done- tell her the dilemma he is in- and tell her why he feels so guilty. He feels guilt and wants to protect Ovi because we always end up feeling more guilt for the ones we do not love and whose heart we know we are going to break- not the ones we actually love. And she should listen to him and help him so that together they can figure a way out.

Archana, your post makes lot of sense but CV are making lame excuses for Arjun that he is not able to tell Ovi. First DK called and now Romil called. As you say Arjun is going deep into mess, instead of coming out of it, he is drowning himself more. He knows that he will hurt Ovi no matter what so sooner he tells her is better. If he feels trapped and not able to stick to his words than stop telling Purvi that no matter what he will tell Ovi. His false promises make Purvi a hurt lot. He could have stopped the party by talking with Manav or his Dad. If he is not able to tell Ovi then he should at least call his dad and let him know that his dada has to do something urgently so it does not dragged and become more complicated than it is at the present. IHe is hurting Purvi right now, and later it will hurt Ovi a lot more. There is no way for him to keep both girls happy so sooner he does it better for everyone.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@mannisha, abhimg...*sighs* I know dear...I am really hurting too...and am terrified that the character assasination of Arjun is going to go beyond a level we can ever tolerate.
My head and heart are warring here too...I guess Im just trying to find a way to hang in there. Shyamala's post did say it best: this beautiful track and love story was so refreshing and so far removed from the normal Indian soap that we fell totally in love with it. This Ovi drama and MU between Arjun/Purvi, as well as lack of communication, is really utterly destroying the magic and disappointing the same fans who came back to revive the show.
I really hope the CVs are actually doing this on purpose...building us up to be so angry at Arjun...so they can give us a surprise, A PLEASANT ONE, that we wont see coming. Just like with Purvi...her harshness and meanness during the MMS fiaso and Arjun's confession...we all hated her then for being so rude...and found ourselves utterly melting towards her with that sweet, childlike confession.
I hope this is the case...otherwise if this drags on for too long or goes to more extremes, the show might as well be over.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mannisha

Arjun is a coward. full stop. He has had plenty of time and opportunities to tell Ovi the truth. The very truth he is reluctant to tell her will hurt her the longer he keeps quiet, never mind do irreparable damage to his relationship with Purvi. How can he let Purvi suffer time after time?


Very well said. Sometimes I feel like to click the like button couple of times.

HE IS A COWARD. THAT'S IT. I don't care why he is acting like that. I just know he is a coward .Today the way he was walking with Ovi that made me way tooo mad. He has become another disappointing character in PR.Spineless like Manav Deshmuskh. The way they presented Manav yesterday was nothing like the Manav they showed earlier in PR. This guy was so scared of Purvi calling him 'baba' like she is his illegitimate child. Give me a break...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: archverma10

@mannisha, abhimg...*sighs* I know dear...I am really hurting too...and am terrified that the character assasination of Arjun is going to go beyond a level we can ever tolerate.

My head and heart are warring here too...I guess Im just trying to find a way to hang in there. Shyamala's post did say it best: this beautiful track and love story was so refreshing and so far removed from the normal Indian soap that we fell totally in love with it. This Ovi drama and MU between Arjun/Purvi, as well as lack of communication, is really utterly destroying the magic and disappointing the same fans who came back to revive the show.
I really hope the CVs are actually doing this on purpose...building us up to be so angry at Arjun...so they can give us a surprise, A PLEASANT ONE, that we wont see coming. Just like with Purvi...her harshness and meanness during the MMS fiaso and Arjun's confession...we all hated her then for being so rude...and found ourselves utterly melting towards her with that sweet, childlike confession.
I hope this is the case...otherwise if this drags on for too long or goes to more extremes, the show might as well be over.

@bold, hoping same since Arjun-Ovi engagement, but it is dragging.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Archana, thank you for sharing that story and for attempting to make sense of the situation with Arjun and Purvi. I would have applauded Arjun if he was waiting to tell Ovi that he did not love her until she got out of that legal jam if only there was no Purvi involved.

It is not about how bad he feels about breaking Ovi's heart, he also has to give thought to how badly he is breaking Purvi's heart. It is asking a bit much of her to understand his tortured mind, she herself is in a quandary and needs reassurance. There is this guy who promises to tell the world that they are in love but gets engaged to a girl he knew he was going to eventually marry, a fact he kept hidden from Purvi, whatever his good reasons for doing the same. He then attempts to get closer to her like nothing has changed but dances, hugs and let's the other girl make out with him publicly.

Look at at from Purvi's point of view, he has never been in love and is young, the same holds true for her. She has more to lose than him. How is she to fathom when he is going to tell Ovi, if ever? His promises have all turned out shallow so far. What good is his word now? He failed her once, nay twice, what if he finds good reason to go ahead with the marriage? Is Purvi supposed to understand and wait on the sidelines till Ovi produces an heir? Or the heir is married and has a child of its own?

How is Purvi to comprehend what Arjun is going through when he is making it increasingly difficult for them to be together ever in the future by dragging this interminably? It is her sister for god's sake, does he give thought to that? The girl hugging him, prancing around him will be his sister in law if all else proceeds according to his long laid out plans and he does succeed in wedding Purvi.

I was as much in love wih Arjun as with Purvi to begin with but am forced to lay the blame fairly and squarely at his doorstep.
You don't dilly dally in matters of the heart not when you have pledged yourself to someone.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@archverma.."
I really hope the CVs are actually doing this on purpose...building us up to be so angry at Arjun...so they can give us a surprise, A PLEASANT ONE, that we wont see coming. Just like with Purvi...her harshness and meanness during the MMS fiaso and Arjun's confession...we all hated her then for being so rude...and found ourselves utterly melting towards her with that sweet, childlike confession."
The above incident was seemless to some extend cause they were not in love that time. Now it is different, they should trust each other, anything that damages that trust to this level will not be tolerated by the viewers. To top that, Arjun who is responsible for this situation is not handling it right.

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