of rights and wrongs and inbetweens

the whole four month story like munna bhaisaab said - vidith nahin koi raaz ho. as for me, it looked like it was am narrating the story but still it sounds plausible. so lets take it at face value

what happened?

drunken driving whatever be the reason for drinking and driving - right or wrong? wrong no doubts
hit and run case? right or wrong- wrong no doubt
taking care of the hit person for 2 years right or wrong- right no doubt
not informing the family before he knew them ------right or wrong?- wrong no doubt
coming in to help out the family, stepping into vidiths shoes- right or wrong? right no doubt

falling for indira- right or wrong? dont know- dil pe kiska zor chale?
not telling indira about vidith before the relationship started - right or wrong? inbetween
not telling indira after relationship started - right or wrong? inbetween

so at face value rishi is wrong. more wrong than right. then why are we upset? he s wrong , doesnt he desrve it- the beating he got? does he deserve to be linked to the family let alone indira?

though this was the most expected track, its still upsetting bcoz soemwhere along those two yrs rishi s repented and tried his best to outdo his biggest crime but but along the way he has continued to commit some other mistakes small ones or big ones but lies neverthless.

and why are we upset he s not defending himself? why r we saying we want the ricky diwaan who wasnt a sissy? we want a replica of sam? not a sissy not a whiner but ready to run after hitting a man for all his attractiveness? the line between streetsmart and cheat is thin

or we want the trying to change ricky./rishi whos not able to defend hemself simply bcoz he accepts hes wrong.

waiting for tomorrow but as of now, i care two hoots who indira maries or doesnt marry or even if she forgives rishi or not. the more important ques is will rishi forgive himself?
waiting to see indira speak up and shoulder vidith as well with or without rishi.
as for rishi, just want to hear him speak or not speak also.

I agree with you... I want to see how Indira will stand now for vidith and come out of this trauma..

Nice post dear.. agree with u

actually ppl needs some time to absorb this twist..
there r so many member and their views are different , expectations are different. if they dont get what they want then they go through frustration.. so give them some time. wait and watch what gonna happen in next few episode and then decide what to do..

agree partially wid ur post prarthana 😊

At face value rishi is definitely wrong because there is just no defense in the world for drunk driving. The only redeeming factor for rishi here is that he did not follow his instinct to run but stayed behind and helped vidhit. he cud have thrown in some money & moved on wid his life. but he bothered to not only care for vidhit but also for his family. n not just financially but emotionally as well.

n yes rishi shud have told the truth to indu before their marriage thus allowing her to make an informed decision about her future.

and why are we upset he s not defending himself? becoz i feel wat is being told is not the complete truth...it sounds a modified version (edited by sam to suit his own purposes) to me ...otherwise how did sam know abt all dis in the first place? n y is sam siding the sharmas against his own bro...itna gehra pyaar hai kya indu ke liye😆 ya itni gehri nafrat hai rishi se i dont want ke inshi ke zagde/ misunderstanding mein sam ka fayda ho...becoz he is no angel either...RK bura hai to SD toh nightmare hai...i want rishi to speak up...he shudnt lend his mouth to sam! n rishi kiraydaar sam, munna, indu ke saamne kuch nahi bol paata...isile ricky diwan ki abhi jaroorat hai EDIT: n also i wanna see ricky becoz rishi is a lie...n no more lies plz...ricky is the real person...rishi is just a part...the gud part of ricky diwan...hence i want ricky diwan to come to the fore now becoz it has become the need of the hour now

Originally posted by: iolahardy

agree partially wid ur post prarthana 😊

At face value rishi is definitely wrong because there is just no defense in the world for drunk driving. The only redeeming factor for rishi here is that he did not follow his instinct to run but stayed behind and helped vidhit. he cud have thrown in some money & moved on wid his life. but he bothered to not only care for vidhit but also for his family. n not just financially but emotionally as well.

n yes rishi shud have told the truth to indu before their marriage thus allowing her to make an informed decision about her future.

and why are we upset he s not defending himself? becoz i feel wat is being told is not the complete truth...it sounds a modified version (edited by sam to suit his own purposes) to me ...otherwise how did sam know abt all dis in the first place? n y is sam siding the sharmas against his own bro...itna gehra pyaar hai kya indu ke liye😆 ya itni gehri nafrat hai rishi se i dont want ke inshi ke zagde/ misunderstanding mein sam ka fayda ho...becoz he is no angel either...RK bura hai to SD toh nightmare hai...i want rishi to speak up...he shudnt lend his mouth to sam! n rishi kiraydaar sam, munna, indu ke saamne kuch nahi bol paata...isile ricky diwan ki abhi jaroorat hai EDIT: n also i wanna see ricky becoz rishi is a lie...n no more lies plz...ricky is the real person...rishi is just a part...the gud part of ricky diwan...hence i want ricky diwan to come to the fore now becoz it has become the need of the hour now

iagree, except that im still hung on calling him rishi

Originally posted by: Surma

I don't think it is a proper way to interpret life by looking at the glass of Right and wrong. To me, right and wrong are objective matter ...it depends on the interpretation, experience and age. As a human being we all make mistakes, but few peoples have the ability to accept and correct it.

Rishi made a mistake by drunk driving and hitting Vidit and he could have run away from the scene. But he accepted the mistake and tried take to take responsibilities. He does not have time machine that he can alter the incident .But as a human being, he could take responsibility and deal with the consequences which he did. He spent two years of his life to pay the price for the actions. I feel he had got his share of punishment already.

The Ricky in USA and the Rishi in Chandney Chowk is two different person in one body.That Ricky didn't have the mental growth that we have in today's Rishi. It was Ricky who was involved in the accident, not the Rishi. I That's why I think he is pardonable and deserves happiness and it will wrong to measure with the absolute tool of Right and wrong :)

Originally posted by: Surma

I don't think it is a proper way to interpret life by looking at the glass of Right and wrong. To me, right and wrong are objective matter ...it depends on the interpretation, experience and age. As a human being we all make mistakes, but few peoples have the ability to accept and correct it.

Rishi made a mistake by drunk driving and hitting Vidit and he could have run away from the scene. But he accepted the mistake and tried take to take responsibilities. He does not have time machine that he can alter the incident .But as a human being, he could take responsibility and deal with the consequences which he did. He spent two years of his life to pay the price for the actions. I feel he had got his share of punishment already.

The Ricky in USA and the Rishi in Chandney Chowk is two different person in one body.That Ricky didn't have the mental growth that we have in today's Rishi. It was Ricky who was involved in the accident, not the Rishi. I That's why I think he is pardonable and deserves happiness and it will wrong to measure with the absolute tool of Right and wrong :)

thats why thre was an inbetween. some things are completely wrong like female feticide or even hit and run. can you make a case for it and say it maybe right.
and somethings are right like smiling at evryone you meet or like taking care of the guy whom you hit with the car

we are in a world where ppl are so bent on looking at the greys that some absolute rights and wrongs are sidelined.

but i dont agree rishi and ricky are different. rishi was in side waiting to comeout but the diwaans never gave a chance perhaps, vidiths incident brought him out. hes still both he needs to find a balance. he s pardonable by whom? thats my big ques by vidith? by indira? or by himself? which is more important?

Originally posted by: np18

thats why thre was an inbetween. some things are completely wrong like female feticide or even hit and run. can you make a case for it and say it maybe right.
and somethings are right like smiling at evryone you meet or like taking care of the guy whom you hit with the car

we are in a world where ppl are so bent on looking at the greys that some absolute rights and wrongs are sidelined.

but i dont agree rishi and ricky are different. rishi was in side waiting to comeout but the diwaans never gave a chance perhaps, vidiths incident brought him out. hes still both he needs to find a balance. he s pardonable by whom? thats my big ques by vidith? by indira?
or by himself? which is more important?

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that is not at all possible -for lifelong--he not able to forgive himself forever.

Originally posted by: 100raj

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that is not at all possible -for lifelong--he not able to forgive himself forever.

exactly raj the only way that he would feel better is by staying with indira/ shouldering vidiths responsibility

just think why would he make sure the sharmas attend the wedding when he asked his mom not to? when he knows both r equal in thier own way.

he needs indira - the truest statement ever made by rishi/ricky in the serial
kisi apne ki pyar ke pyaas aur bhook mujhe hain aapkko nahin

bot hes not really being selfish coz he also knows that indira would be happy with him

Originally posted by: np18

the whole four month story like munna bhaisaab said - vidith nahin koi raaz ho. as for me, it looked like it was am narrating the story but still it sounds plausible. so lets take it at face value

what happened?

drunken driving whatever be the reason for drinking and driving - right or wrong? wrong no doubts
hit and run case? right or wrong- wrong no doubt
taking care of the hit person for 2 years right or wrong- right no doubt
not informing the family before he knew them ------right or wrong?- wrong no doubt
coming in to help out the family, stepping into vidiths shoes- right or wrong? right no doubt

falling for indira- right or wrong? dont know- dil pe kiska zor chale?
not telling indira about vidith before the relationship started - right or wrong? inbetween
not telling indira after relationship started - right or wrong? inbetween

so at face value rishi is wrong. more wrong than right. then why are we upset? he s wrong , doesnt he desrve it- the beating he got? does he deserve to be linked to the family let alone indira?

though this was the most expected track, its still upsetting bcoz soemwhere along those two yrs rishi s repented and tried his best to outdo his biggest crime but but along the way he has continued to commit some other mistakes small ones or big ones but lies neverthless.

and why are we upset he s not defending himself? why r we saying we want the ricky diwaan who wasnt a sissy? we want a replica of sam? not a sissy not a whiner but ready to run after hitting a man for all his attractiveness? the line between streetsmart and cheat is thin

or we want the trying to change ricky./rishi whos not able to defend hemself simply bcoz he accepts hes wrong.

waiting for tomorrow but as of now, i care two hoots who indira maries or doesnt marry or even if she forgives rishi or not. the more important ques is will rishi forgive himself?
waiting to see indira speak up and shoulder vidith as well with or without rishi.
as for rishi, just want to hear him speak or not speak also.

Sorry, I am going to ramble a bit here. In the process, might just deviate from your point.

So far, we have only been seeing how much Rishi has been centered and anchored in Indira. For a guy who has given so much of himself to the woman he loves, I think is being judged harshly when it comes to right and wrong. And after all this Indira, despite loving Rishi a lot, can still let go of him. As someone said, she may love, but her previous let-down's will not allow her to trust. That's not being fair to a person who has stood by you through every major/minor/significant/insignificant issue of your life. What about right and wrong in this case? Is this what you give back?

But from her POV, she's going through hell and cannot bring herself to trust someone who has only told her lies. Ok, granted. But sometime, once in a way, she should sit herself down and ask the question "Is this possible? Can I go so wrong in judging someone?? Can this person really have such a dark side to him?" Till now, we have never seen her spend time with herself and ask herself anything. That bothers me to an extent and there are no satisfactory excuses for the lack of introspection. The only point I can think of is that this is her fatal flaw...everyone has a flaw and this is hers.

This separation should do good. Those who felt that this marriage was happening too soon can now rest easy and watch the two change and grow. Ideally, Rishi should get a grip over his excessive emotional dependence on her, rid himself of the dread of losing her and work towards getting the truth out. But after that is done, no more begging Indira to be part of his life. No more "Please". He needs to salvage his self-esteem and some part of his pride. Would love to see him get the facts out and leave the rest.

On her part, Indira needs to rid herself of her demons and learn to love. She loves him a lot. That's for sure. But she loves him because he is the only one who understands her and loves her for what she is. She found unconditional acceptance and unwavering affection. But Indira does not dread losing Rishi in the way that he dreads losing her. I'm hoping that this incident will make way for Indira to experience that feeling.

And why is it important for her to feel a similar dread? Because in a relationship of unequal intensity, trust comes at a premium (one of them easily crumbles..in this case, Indira), misunderstandings are rife, and only one person is doing the 'giving' most of the time. In Rishi's case, even if he has told lies, the intention was never ever malicious. He just did not think through situations from a long-term perspective and for long enough to find another way to do things. As someone pointed out, tiny lies told on a daily basis have cost him dearly. But he will now change, inevitably, and so will she.

To Sameer will go the credit of making it happen...the more he wilfully tries to drive them apart, the stronger they each become individually.

Just hope the characters get the time they need to make this journey. Hoping for the best. And yet, we don't know the whole story. Something might happen in tomorrow's episode to change all the opinions flying around in the forum today 😊

==Sravasti Chandran===