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Posted: 19 years ago
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I believe male domination thrives in urban society because of financial depandancy. We are talking here of women who grew up in midlle calss familiies, went to school and in some cases are even graduates when they get married. They are wedded away into families where they get trapped in the rigors of slaving for the whole family. And as time passes on, she gets more and more insecure of her individual identity as her future gets more and more dependant on the people around her - husband, in-laws .. Now give such a lady , a steady source of income and then watch the change. She gains a sense of worth and independance and will have the confidence to assert herseld in dire circumstances, knowing that she can support herself.

I hate to see households where the women's opnions are not solicited, where sons grow up into men who wave off their mother's comments - 'what does a women know after all'

Modern age feminism, I would say would be most successful if it could empower such women - housewives, mothers, daughters in law, to find individuality.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rumi

add the male chauvinists .. who are merely stone- headed creatures stuffed with blotted egos!!

you are right MNMS!

i have met many of such male chauvinists who are my collegues in my college. when we discuss about women's rights they take part in it and pretend to be very very liberal.and as usual they love to flirt with female collegues like us. if you go to see how they treat their wives in their homeyou will see tht these socalled pregressive melaes like to keep their wives confined within house , who would not work outside their houses and will not even mix up with other people and always cook good food for them and take care of their family members.some people are so much chauvinistic that they even do not allow their wives to come to the parties in fear of us. they fear that seeing us, working independent women if their wives also want to live like us, what will happen then? their peaceful lives will be shattered na!!!

U are correct!!.. u know wht ...These so-called progressive male chauvinists **** make double standards for their Home based women -mother, sisters, daughters, wives... The reason behind such discrimination is the sense of insecurity inside such stone-headed creatures that they might loose the "Control" over their spouses or the females around them if they are educated and claim for their rights... 😡 ...For them whtever they do is right.. e.g. flirting... even extra marital relationships... but for the female .. she should continue to portray the "Society's Good Girl" image for all of her life no matter how harsh the circumstances are and wht kind of sacrifice they demand from her... she is NOT an animal to present her sacrifices for the whole of her life...

As mist said ... that even SONS don't bother to give the respect their mothers deserve... she is a homebased person... men like these have confined them to homes ... so why are they blaming their mothers for not being knowing the facts... have they exposed mothers to the facts.. let them go in the field and then see for urself... actually this is the fear of men of loosing their control as woman gain independence ... its like "apni insecurities victims par nikalni"....😡 So MEN!! Dare not to question any Woman's intelligence...😡 Or else u are gonna receive tight kicks and punches from the "Womanhood fraternity" !!!!!!!!😡...😆

Even if the divorce rate is is increasing.. it is the incapability of men that they can't handle marriages ... they were "Good providers" ONLY in early times... now as women possess their own identity.. they simply say "Ohh!! Im fed up.. this marriage can't work!!" Rubbish!! Is the word "compromise only meant for women and not for men!! Marriage needs more than suppressing the wife... and these Intelligent men are unable to understand that... I say again: double standards... 😡

Women are the target of victimization in any society any part of the world unfortunately... like in tribal areas there are extreme cases ... women are considered nothing more than an animal or a sellable decoration piece😡.. Aparna di told me that in Africa women in tribal areas are circumcized..😭😡.. If then when any one of the women rights organization comes and tries to rescue women anywhere on earth.. they are considered an interference in personal matters!!!🤢...Anti feminism provokes up... and feminist organizations are insulted...shipwrecked...😡 becoz they are saving a woman and breaking their atrocious customs!!!

I think that it is the HUMAN STATUS of a Woman that needs to be revived again... She is a Human and has equal rights... People should never ever forget that!

(P.S. Thanks Javs.. but can someone tell me wht is the meaning of "Gallery" written below my nick???😕)

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mist

I believe male domination thrives in urban society because of financial depandancy. We are talking here of women who grew up in midlle calss familiies, went to school and in some cases are even graduates when they get married. They are wedded away into families where they get trapped in the rigors of slaving for the whole family. And as time passes on, she gets more and more insecure of her individual identity as her future gets more and more dependant on the people around her - husband, in-laws .. Now give such a lady , a steady source of income and then watch the change. She gains a sense of worth and independance and will have the confidence to assert herseld in dire circumstances, knowing that she can support herself.

U are right but it is only gonna work when that woman is also aware of her thinking and ideology towards herself i.e. how much respect and dignity she places for herself.. becoz after so many years of injection of attaining absorb attitude and suppression it may take time for her to dig out the "Real Her" and wht she makes out of her life..Or in a word, its the change of her "Outlook" for herself..

As Rumi said that the financial independence is major key to make woman stand out of the continuous ill-treatment BUT to be accompanied with her complete self-explored identity with great self-esteem... This is i think the major responsibility of the Parents... If i can speak of feminism and woman rights its becoz of my self-esteem and pride for myself as a woman given by my parents.. They taught me how to appreciate myself as a woman- A Proud Woman... through this i think we can get a grass root level grip on the issue by injecting our girls to have a revolutionalized positive approach for themselves.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: MNMS

U are right but it is only gonna work when that woman is also aware of her thinking and ideology towards herself i.e. how much respect and dignity she places for herself.. becoz after so many years of injection of attaining absorb attitude and suppression it may take time for her to dig out the "Real Her" and wht she makes out of her life..Or in a word, its the change of her "Outlook" for herself..

Here is where I still have a different view point. I agree with the concept mnms, that a sense of self is imperative for anyone to take charge of their lives. But my argumnet is that most women in urban areas these days (friends and other cases I have seen for myself) are born and brought up just like any of us. They are not like women half a century back who have known only inferiority since childhood.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mist

Here is where I still have a different view point. I agree with the concept mnms, that a sense of self is imperative for anyone to take charge of their lives. But my argumnet is that most women in urban areas these days (friends and other cases I have seen for myself) are born and brought up just like any of us. They are not like women half a century back who have known only inferiority since childhood.

Well mist.. we were focusing on women issues as a whole which includes women from all sectors.... now in urban areas women do have got that self-development and self-esteem to some extent so they are not prone to so much of inferiority complex.. they know their rights and sometimes do fight back.. still the percentage of such cases is not large .. but self-awareness is increasing in urban areas... But wht abt the general population of almost 80%+ females which lives in Rural areas.. unaware of their rights and being even killed mercilessly by male dominated society as a whole ... without any law and order... being justified on the name of traditions... Now if these women are given the power of independence, it will still take time to infuse the light of the feeling of dignity for themselves after living in a suffocated envoironment... All im saying is that mindset changes need time...results can't be achieved by only financial liberty...

But if an urban woman is given the same relaxation .. she might act differently.. even depends on wht is "Injected" in her brain cells since childhood and the surroundings.. she may be able to change her beliefs through awareness.. but still the reaction to such a measure depends on individual basis and their thinking..😊

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