The Contrite Vs Confronting!

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Awfully sorry for all the delay with this post everyone - but internet is still being ridiculous, because they haven't finished up doing all parts of the unit. I can access it in certain rooms - on LAN - but the wireless will only work by tomorrow, so its a tad hard doing up things (since my room is lucky not 😔 )

Anyway - the other thing is, I worked up several versions of clipping the 'copyrighted' scene, so I could include it, but turns out, I can only do a tad bit in the very end of it. So I'm posting what I could get included, plus I'll do writing for it (there's hardly anything to cap there, because officially its a KT scene 😆 and no one wants to see Talli excess too, after having to read her name all over the posts 😆 )

So yeh - two clips for today (or technically for Friday which is happening 2 days too late for me) but here goes!

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[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahXe90qsrLc[/YOUTUBE]

(the beginning of this clip is the only part I could include of that entire scene - which btw is the one where NB goes shirtless one and only time on Gulaal *blushhh* But no, what I wanted to include, as I told Nur in my defense already is the fact that A) Gulaal sends nimbu paani for Kesar B) Through Talli C) Tells no one anything except that Kesar was feeling unwell D) Kesar learns of this cover when Talli says it out like that and is surprised/confused E) The sneak smile in the end at the nimbu paani - which I managed to get into the vid.
More analysis on those bits, in my written - but this is just to get the scene spelled out. PS: There are some pathetic comic touches to this scene too, pathetic for Talli - I think I'll mention that stuff in my written - so headsup there 😆)


[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1eAC4dPPd4[/YOUTUBE]

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The missing clip with KT

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH0GnGVTFks[/YOUTUBE]

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay then - late latif is here, very very late, but still.

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Scene 1 -

So this is the scene I couldn't upload much as I wanted to. Scene opens with an 'open-shirt' mirror image of NB ☺️ lol - although I confess, he doesn't exactly look typical definition of hot and fresh from a shower, cause kudos to NB, he's giving the perfect blend of hang over signs compounded with guilt and memory of Gullu's karaara jawab from night before. So he's pressing against his temples and pushing to and fro his hair in a very affected manner as the FBs preoccupy all his thoughts *surprise* no Duggu, only Gullu 😆 I really like how NB coordinates his expressions here, in accordance with the FBs - so when he gets voice over of Gullu telling him about how Vasant's eyes will on him from somewhere - seeing him like this - the camera scene shifts back to Kesar look himself in the eye in the mirror, and then averting gaze from his own reflection - excellent nuance of a moment (I tried to cap this - since Nur can't as the clip is blocked everywhere - not half as effectively, but here goes)


Next, enter Talli. Who at the first flash of his fab abs turns around with a cringe look like she's scene blood kaisi ajib bandi hai yaar ye! 😆 Anyway, do you hear me complaining about that? Jitna kam dekhe, utna acha hai 🤣 And Kesar oh-so-oblivious about it gives her a 'retard' look - which she technically deserves like all the time - anyway so they have a silly how-he-needs-to-wear-clothes and how-she-needs-to-knock-and-come (nods vehemently in agreement) little chit chat and and then she hands over the nimbu paani, given by Gulaal as she tells him - making him look up in a mix of surprise and wariness. He hears of Gulaal having covered up for him, by naming him unwell - and says she sent the lime water because it would make him feel better. Now this is the second time one wonders how no one doubts cause of early morning nimbu paani! Such an obvious fix for hang overs - but when you think about it, just like the way Gulaal took her moments to comprehend the night before that he was drunk, and didn't just figure from the way he stood at the door - you know how the people of this house live in such an untouched by the concept of these 'ills' entering their house! Perhaps the only one who would have guessed in a moment would be Dushyant - and he already knows. Plus of course, everyone has Gulaal's word. There's a habit in this house to not think beyond that 😳 Anyway - Kesar is taken aback momentarily by Gulaal' shield - having not taken her word seriously enough then, it seems, about not letting anyone else hear a word of this! What's interesting to me in this scene is how, in a much smaller consequence, this idea of Gulaal hiding a secret of a son's wrong doing from the rest of the house is reflective of her habit - the one she's upkept for a decade. Although her reasons for hiding Dushyant's murder truth and Kesar's drunken truth are entirely different - in Dushyant's case a submission for the family' sake, and in Kesar's case (although she'd probably tout the family as a cause here too) far more from her instinct to save him from everyone else, while deeming it her singular responsibility to deal with and correct his ways! Hasn't she always done that for him? But fact remains - she hides a fact, however small as opposed to Vasant's murder - I find a parallel here, depicting of what has become her nature now, to hide the evil and make everything appear rosy perfect. Sometimes, it appears to me, that she paints the rosy image for everyone else so consistently and with such conviction, that during the day hours of routine and normalcy, she almost begins to live like she believes them to be true herself. Then the night comes and brings the dark introspecting time and she fights to contain the storm. But a part of her truly lives the normalcy, like it is real - which she knows not to be the case in fact! Its like she's lived the 'lie' so long, hiding the truth, that she can survive parts of each day believing the lie herself!

Anyway - scene moves again, KT have more silly talk *rolls eyes at Talli* okay, I just have to mention this bit where Talli tells him she waited for him too, but then she couldn't stay up late enough - and Kesar is smiling mildly to himself *mentally rolling eyes at her I assure you) and then Talli goes, but this is it! No more coming late. And Kesar gives her such a CLASSIC range of expressions (okay Kesar's expressions are to die for, so I'll cap it best I can) retorting with - ise main dhamki samjhu yaa jaankaari 🤣 It amuses me to no end (not in real sense of humor but in the kind of amusement evoked by dumb people) that she keeps throwing blatantly coy hints at him, about how he should listen to her because he has to in future (you wish Jhalli!) and Kesar is just laughing it all off, because he has not an inkling about her romantic chase 😆 Okay CAPS of Kesar's expressions

<--- his wary expression at Gulaal having covered for him and sent nimbu paani.

<--- Kesar's smile to himself reaction at Talli's pep talk! I love how he doesn't even deem it important enough to shut her up with her Galool Jr. Patronizing act 😆 He's all just why is this girl for real look 😆

And his ye dhamki hai ya jaankari expressions:


Followed by some more inane Talli dialog, until she tells him again, to quit his 'laaparwai' or everyone will be upset with him. And he turns around instantly grave and wary again, and asks her - Gulaal ne kuch kaha tujhse?


It's so evident he's still having his doubts about Gulaal saving his neck. Perhaps partially from the way she dished out that reality check at him last night - perhaps partly from remembering how openly she could punish him when she deemed him as much in error as she did over this drinking (remember the caning?) and perhaps, just a little more on account of how his 'hate and distrust Gulaal' side cannot fathom this old ally in her - who would rebuke and protect him all at once, just like his Gulaal. And so he questions. Talli replies Gulaal has said nothing, but MB was 'naraaz' with him, but that he also asked no one to say anything to him ( trust who else but Gullu to disobey and give Kesar the reprimand of the week 😆) Then Talli tells him to go see MB, and Kesar is on alert further, asking why? Talli doesn't know, gives him the nimbu paani and exits (shukar hai!) and Kesar, in his mix of emotions, and lack of understanding the 'facts' here - looks on with a frown, until sighting the glass, and then what we glimpse is a sight of that same smile from the milk toss scene! The way he smiles at the glass - is so Kesar! He can be wary as he likes, and he can pull off every version of anti-Gullu morcha he wants, but it never ceases to please him to get attention from her, this care he craves for, and perhaps subjective to this case, even the silent forgiveness even if he wants to pretend he didn't do wrong and doesn't need her of all people to forgive - beneath all the other seeming ill sentiments! Just for a moment, he's a little boy, feeling happy and pampered by his only favorite girl! ☺️

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Scene 2

My heart warms up in this initial phase, every time Mb tries to connect with Kesar - father to son. He's such a wise man, and such a knowing elder - you can't but be in some sort of reverence of him - and again, as I said on one of Srushti's posts, I'm so glad that even with PB failing her image from the pre leap phase, MB really retains everything about his character. His dealing, and that alone, with Gulaal's truth of hiding the secret coming to fore is justified, like no one elses - well, barring Kesar's at this point. I also want to add, how contrary what seems to be far more pronounced the case in times to come, MB over here doesn't seem like he wants Kesar to become Vasant. He just wants Kesar to become responsible and a good heir - the one he rightfully deserves as a father to succeed himself.

Anyway - not digressing from the scene here, he's standing so solemn and even worried, before Kesar walks in - and Kesar's only apprehension for obvious reasons - yet, the way he starts with the bike, and than links it up to the way life comes, and the way one should lead it, deal with its problems and strive to reach one's goals - with sahi gati, sahi disha, and sahi manzil - 👏 No OTT dialogs as we're all so sadly accustomed to being tortured by, I love this father son scene so much, because its so real, not dragged, and just everything a real father son scene can be! Kesar's varying expression, from his relief and instant delight in talking about the bike (haha! he's such an insufferable boy 😆 ) then the curiosity picked at, as MB begins to draw his metaphoric lesson, the increasing somewhat puzzlement, and somewhat solemn registering of what's being told - he's such a perfect portrayal of a 20 something boy, who has potential, but also has his share of demons leading and misleading him here and there. A boy to man stage in terms of temperament here, where his energy is overwhelming like a youth's but needs the 'theraav'. And his blend of reaction to MB's advice - like he can understand part of, agree with some, is trying to fathom what is implied by some, and just maybe a little disagreeing of some...

Until PB walks in - mentions how he must fulfill his first duty starting this evening by paying Reva and her sasural - aka his own sasural too 😆 - a formal visit. And I love, yet again, how the CVs find such natural instances to bring out those opportunities for GK to face a push-pull dilemma. Such a credible norm that Kesar should respect the dual relationship with that house, and pay a due visit to them - [makes me think of how everytime my parents are visiting India together or individually, there's this list of homes/people to be formally visited and asked after - oh that debate 😆] but I mean, this is not a forced circumstance where they can just prove how Kesar catches his cue to pain Gulaal again. Such a natural event at this early point - and then the way Kesar's ready willingness to oblige turning wary at the prospect of taking Gulaal along - haan to! tune kya socha? ab biwi wala hai to biwi ko lekar jaana hota! - And Gulaal's own skepticism to the way Kesar will receive this - perfectly in order 👏 I like that look on Kesar's face as he casts her a side look, which is like a mind already at task, trying to work a way out of a fix! Aur ye dono nalayak - always using Talli as the ping ball in between 😳 sometimes I can't but feel bichari for her.

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Scene 3

Okay who else gets restless and fidgety watching this scene? I cannot even describe how awkward I start feeling even outside of the screen with the unspoken tension that builds up here! Its Kesar at his incorrigible worst - and kudos to the script and NB himself, not to forget Sushant - to bring out the strains of this scene in such a palpable manner 👏 I'm literally groaning inside my head and going all oh no Kesar, not that mean please - as he keeps going back to take one last hit at Dushyant - even after MB's rebuke, he doesn't rest the matter without getting the last word in. Although, really, Dushyant is inviting all the trouble to himself by even trying to pep talk Kesar about customs and relations 😆 Without knowing half of what he's getting himself into - isn't this scene then, albeit more insinuating than direct - something of a predecessor to the final Dushyant setting the bait for Kesar to jump at - the way you understand and feel for both sides, knowing where each comes from, and so incapable of taking sides - and especially the way you're muttering first for Dushyant to discontinue his 'Kesar this Kesar that' elder brotherly talk, and then hoping in vain for Kesar to hold back on his return of favor very much in (un)kind!

The tension just mounts and mounts - and everyone witnessing is just watching the two go! [again, just like the final confronting] Until the point MB steps in and tells Kesar to shut up! [which is a kinder version of cutting him across his face so he goes flying half way across the room ] JK's very offended reaction both times, although in final scene it was also mixed with much shock. PB's reaction - no comments. Can't even begin to compare this one with that. And then, of course, Gulaal. Just here, in this scene, Gulaal is only disappointed/disapproving/and so let down by the way Kesar is talking to Dushyant - a well wisher, his elder brother by many years. And especially, at the way he's made a scene at the family meal time - yaa to aata nahi hai, ya scene pe scene 😆 - for someone who get's his back all the time and stands in his defense time and again, of course she's giving all those expressions which read - ye kya kar raha hai tu Kesar! koi lihaaz hai ke nahin! - And Dushyant, well, he's hit as ever by Kesar's caustic attitude. I personally think Dushyant subconsciously knew for a long time, that Kesar had caught onto something. His logical mind probably kept correcting him, on a very plausible pretext that if Kesar really knew, he wouldn't be a sitting duck! He probably also hides in the convenience of the fact that Kesar is being just as unreasonably and inexplicable rude with Gulaal - and so he leads himself into believing that Kesar is just having a phase of rebellion. He shoves down the evidence of what he might have realized, under the pretense of Kesar's bhatakna, typical of this age.

The sikka coming out only heightens the disregard in such a blatant manner. The hadd hogayi ab to reactions on the table are quite warranted - mine was synonymous 😲 Aapko ladki nahin pasand aayi (which would condone Dushy of alter affair allegations in Kesar justice scale) allotted to seedhi side of sikka, and ladki ko aap pasand nahi aaye *ouch Kesar* (the truth as Kesar knows) on ulti side of sikka. And no surprise that his very confused sikka for a change actually falls, and doesn't stand up to say aadha addha 😆 But honestly, the way he laughs at it then - oh so rude Kesar He really makes you want to hide him out of view, so he can't continue saying and doing these things that are making everyone sit up to the edge of seats and avert gazes. And then, on the other hand - how Kesar is it, to give a damn and deliver his point point blank. *shakes head* for the nth time, subtlety not his style, na-uh!

All points to writing and dialog too, as always. The perfection with which a harmless talk of taking something for Rewa's in laws, turns into a biting bunch of remarks made about Dushyant not marrying is so seamless and well done. Makes you think of real life talks, which start in such a casual way, unassuming of how they can end! Notice how Dushyant refers to Revji's home as Gulaal's ghar, and not Kesar's sasural - its just the way he never refers to Gulaal as Kesar's patni, but as his Gulaal. Its not his in-acceptance of facts, or hope for something that never can be - but just, maybe, his subconscious which treats Kesar and Gulaal like the child and elder they were a decade ago - because that is so much an easier way to see them, so much less complicated a relation! Not that he's the kind to actually refer to that house as Kesar's sasural - because first and foremost everyone knows how that goes down with Gulaal herself - and no one except JK has the balls to call a spade a spade 😆

On that mention - HOOT AND WHISTLES to the quick eye exchange between JK and Kesar - ab ye hue na sache warring parties! Both so stiff and unrelenting 🤣 The way JK comes to Dushy's defense by offering him food, and then looks at Kesar in warning and the way Kesar looks back like, oh really now, glare hexes? psst! - I do it all the time 😆

Back to the little thing I skipped - Gulaal serving Kesar, Kesar silently resisting, MB taking notice (chalo kisi ki to aankhein hain is ghar mein, other than JK, phew!) I was almost going to ask Gulaal is she thought she could play unfair smart by making Kesar eat her food just because MB was there - hah! so much for cheating 😆 And then I wanted to ask Kesar too, is we should replay that secret smile over the nimbu paani for Gulaal to see how not so poisoned by her food you feel 😆 Dono ke dono are too much! 🤣

Anyway the final part of the scene - Dushyant blaming sanjog for not getting married; Kesar blaming sanjog for getting married; and Gullu pulling on her ghoongat defense - CLASSIC end to such a charged scene! What a show this has been, and continues to be, no matter how many times of watching over!

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Sorry for the delay guys, once again - see you tomorrow with the next. Nur should be around sometime to do the caps - but you feel obliged to do your talking - given 2 days of break already

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Edited by JZephyr - 13 years ago
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Okay I'm done =)

Oh, quick mention to the thread title. I personally relate it in double sense.

First, as Kesar (in contrition) for his drunk drama. Then Kesar (contriving live) against bichara Dushyant!

Second Kesar contriving live, as before, and Dushyant (even with the outward heavy duty embarrassment/awkwardness) perhaps feeling some contrition inside. I bet any and every reminder of his not being married --> leading to reason Gulaal --> leading to murder of Vasant - is no happy round of thoughts. He doesn't even need the damn reminders - but Kesar really nails it in the final scene. So Dushyant's contrition.
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JZ ! you're internet is back I suppose...yay :D

*will read and comment*

Edit: @the ab show..😆..eye candy treat to a set of viewers ;)...hehe...but I like that was in sync with the fact that he was suffering from a hangover...he forgets to wear it usual double shirt way..so again its a nicely thought out detail.

Interesting parallel indeed @Gulaal covering up the mistakes of the son's...good point..she likes it better to live in the ideal make-believe environment where all is picture perfect..because at least that way there is no unhappy and hurt faces around. And I think that is something that can be understood on her part, taking for instance the time right after Vasant's death..the was a tense atmosphere in the house, there was taunting and generally an unpleasant mood, which took time to get back to somewhat normal. Also like you say about her trying to correct Kesar's mistakes, she tried to do the same with Dushyant right, she helped him get back on track, so if she can get a murderer to walk the path of righteousness back again, why cannot she do the same with Kesar?, afterall he is her Kesar.

@Nimbu-paani..I agree with you..he loves every bit of attention he gets from her...and that applies even to situations when he wants to see her hurt and upset...if she responds as he desires...he feels his task is accomplished...of course not discounting the fact that he hurts himself more in the process.


@scene 2..Word! there is a natural flow to the events..I LOVE how MB talks to him...he isn't all commanding immediately...the advice is given in a very understanding tone..said with affection and concern.

@meeting the relatives funda..hehe..that is something very wonderful about the culture right...and especially considering a small village...such things are so important...maintaining relationships, and like here Kesar has to take Gulaal and go visit, akela bhi ja sakta tha...but he cannot cos that would be not right cos samaaj ke liye it's his sasural too. So yeah I liked how this event was woven into the story..and even if we did not have exclusive GK scenes...the focus is still very much them.

@scene 3...Absolutely agree!...you are left hoping he won't say something sarcastic and he does exactly that.
The sikka was the ultimate mean side of Kesar there. Gulaal had a new revelation in this moment, all along she thought he was angry at her and his rude and akkadu side was reserved for her, but now she was witnessing him doing the similar thing with Dushyant. But I don't think she gave it much thought later, which she should have IMO.

@Dushyant having an inkling about him knowing...yeah I think the same too...but Kesar got so warped up in Gulaal stripping him off his haq on her and the Talli marriage thing etc..so jabs at Dushyant took a backseat.

@JK..haha I know..they were having this battle through the eyes 😆

@Gulaal's ghoonghat defense...oh yeah classic indeed..she was the center of the conversation there between Kesar and Dushyant...especially as Dushyant glances to her when Kesar asks why he did not get married. She felt uncomfortable and fidgety, on the one hand she is appalled by Kesar's words and the other side she is the one person who Dushyant was in love/attracted to enough to want to be married...extremely awkward moment there.


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^^ joins in the yayy dancing yes it is. Hopefully to stay =)
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Originally posted by: Maz.

JZ ! you're internet is back I suppose...yay :D

Interesting parallel indeed @Gulaal covering up the mistakes of the son's...good point..she likes it better to live in the ideal make-believe environment where all is picture perfect..because at least that way there is no unhappy and hurt faces around. And I think that is something that can be understood on her part, taking for instance the time right after Vasant's death..the was a tense atmosphere in the house, there was taunting and generally an unpleasant mood, which took time to get back to somewhat normal. Also like you say about her trying to correct Kesar's mistakes, she tried to do the same with Dushyant right, she helped him get back on track, so if she can get a murderer to walk the path of righteousness back again, why cannot she do the same with Kesar?, afterall he is her Kesar.


True Maz. Its not that she wants to belie the gory details to herself - although like I said the rosy image is so engraved that even she lapses at times - but she's hell bent on making sure everyone in the house has this feeling of living in a perfect world. Its just crazy how tirelessly she goes at it for a decade - when everything in that house has fallen apart, and is lackluster with the tragedy that struck them! The way she holds it together single handedly is tremendous and ridiculous on her part all at once. That she does it, is tremendous. That she believes she's succeeding in inducing the normalcy is ridiculous! Its like a precariously perched bird nest, ready to fall off the top branch with but a gust of the wind.

@Nimbu-paani..I agree with you..he loves every bit of attention he gets from her...and that applies even to situations when he wants to see her hurt and upset...if she responds as he desires...he feels his task is accomplished...of course not discounting the fact that he hurts himself more in the process.

Totally! He wants attention from her, good or bad. And then, when he wants to hurt her, and gets the desired reaction, and retches at it inside, goes around fixing it discretely or however - it goes on like an endless loop - until the big jolt!


@Dushyant having an inkling about him knowing...yeah I think the same too...but Kesar got so warped up in Gulaal stripping him off his haq on her and the Talli marriage thing etc..so jabs at Dushyant took a backseat.

True - Kesar is so unpredictable in his dilemma phase, no one can really understand what exactly is driving him to be so wrong and mean! Everyone has their own ideas about it - and everyone is partly right - but no one has it all, because Kesar is not a monolithic character! So many layers to him, its impossible to sort them all out!


@Gulaal's ghoonghat defense...oh yeah classic indeed..she was the center of the conversation there between Kesar and Dushyant...especially when Dushy glances to her when Kesar asks why he did not get married. She felt uncomfortable and fidgety, on the one hand she is appalled by Kesar's words and the other side she is the one person who Dushyant was in love/attracted to enough to want to be married...extremely awkward moment there.

Oh he puts them both into such a spot! I honestly feel goosebumps like I'm in the scene - and its so understandable that no one at the table says anything for a while, because they're so stunned first, and then, just so tongue tied at what to say! Because hello - irony is, everyone knows what he's saying is so true 😆 So MB just gives his head of the family last shot with a shut up! As if it was ever going to work on Kesar once he's really got going! Yeh to phir bhi ruk gaya, agli baar to puri baat hi niklegi 😆


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Thanks, Jzee!

I was out for most of the day so couldn't get to this earlier :S...anywhoo, thanks for capping the first part! And here's the caps for the rest:




This one almost looks like he's about to touch her bangles😆...and MB's disturbed face in the back...lol






Sarcastic smile kicks in



My fav. moment in the scene...Kesar-JK eyelock🤣...what a CHARGED look passed b/w them...lol...there were fireworks happening at this breakfast table I'd say





Kesar smirks sharply..."aapne shaadi kyun nahin ki?"


Doesn't get a satisfactory reply...so out comes the sikka..."koi baat nahin...iska jawaab mera sikka dega"...lol


Gulaal's like "what is WRONG with him?"




Dushyant is actually bemused😆



Gulaal's still confuzzled



MB's like W*F, Kesar?



And Kesar backs down for a bit


Then Dushy speaks up to defend Kesar


So Kesar shoots some of those patented hex glares at him again...lol



The pointed look at Gulaal as he says, "haan yeh sab sanjog ki hi baatein hoti hain"



Dushyant's tears in the last bit were very touching and poignant :((



And Galool remained khafaa and disturbed till the end...lol



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Nur🤗...as always awesome caps dear😳
Jzee🤗
Ohh I never watch these scenes before...me so loving it watching them now for the first time😳
Coming to the scene where Kesar have the FB's of gullu rather than duggu😆 as you said...the Fbs n the expressions on his face for each one...was superbly done by NB...the hangover effect n the guilt of doing such thing is so much very well delivered by him...
Then comes talli jhalli...her reaction to him was 🤢...no manners nothing...n the way kesar reacts after knewing that gulaal told that he is not feeling well n so the neemboo paani...the expression he gives when she tells him that she also woke up for him but she is unable to control sleep was like 'ohh really i dont knew abt it' in a funny way...n comes the ultimate joke n kesar's expressions are to die for...the naaraazgi of MB...again kesar asking did gulaal said anything to anyone...thankgod she leaves after givingthe glass of neemboo paani...anyways the scene only worthy to watch kesar's expressions😳...not for the bukh bukh she did which is so useless n meaningless😆...Ohh the smile on his face after seeing the glass😳...he soo much grave for the attention from his gulaal na😳...

Father-Son convo: Its the best scene that i ever seen between a father n son...its so much evident that we see so much scenes of father-daughter, mother-son, n even mother-daughter...this one was very well written n even very well executed...nothing over the top...right on the point...scene begins with MB so much worried, but once kesar is here he is full on changed and makes kesar feel better before him by asking abt bike...telling abt speed...goal...path...as you said he is just expecting him to be responsible son here rather than telling him to take place of vassy...PB coming n telling to visit Rewa house...is so much happens in our daily lifes na...n he readily accepts it until unless he has to take gulaal with him...his cold expressions...n also gulaal hesitant look speaks a lot...

OMG the breakfast scene...while seeing the scene I was like what the hell are you speaking kesar expression...starting with his cold behavior with gulaal...n MB seeing it n thus wants to make things easier to gulaal n kesar...just asks abt gifts for rewa n yogesh...a small discussion which is started to distract gulaal from kesar's cold behavior led to this sooo much tense situation at the dining table...Dushy will never get the hints that kesar is no way interested in his brotherly talks😆...a advice which is unnecessary n comes the taunting kesar back to the field...the sarcastic question abt dushy knewing all the rituals though he himself is not married...the reason why he is not married till now...we knew that kesar intentions to ask that question are different, still if we keep that side of kesar apart for time being...it was just a simple question from a family member who is far way from the family for the last 10 years...it is indeed a simple question...but this makes the scene so much tense...no one in the family has that guts to give a damn answer to kesar...the uneasiness is so much evident in every ones face...everyone have their own perspective answer for this question...dushy remembers the cruel turth of his life with this marriage topic...family members feel that its because of DV incident...n gulaal feels that its because of her...and then coming to breathtaking look of JK and Kesar😳...what a look my goodness😆...they are soo much evil in that bit...but kesar is still in no mood to stop...so comes the coin...even the palcement of you dont like girl n girl dont like you for seedha n ulta is so much kesarish...n then that evil smile after tossing the coin...someone has to stop it...thus MB stops him...rather I say tries to stop him which is indeed not successful...dushy supporting kesar in front of MB...n telling everything is destiny n Sanjog..so true atleast in case of kesar n gulaal...n this has to be come from keasr aswell as he repeats the sentence giving a side look at gulaal...ohhh felt really very bad for dushy😭...we cant take anyone's side here...both are some what correct in their own way...gulaal ghoongat defense🤣...what an end to a fantabulous scene😉

Jzee...as you said, dushy never accepted gulaal as kesar's wife..so comes that you are going to gulaal's house/rewa's sasuraal but not to your sasuraal...

You are bang on here👏
I was almost going to ask Gulaal is she thought she could play unfair smart by making Kesar eat her food just because MB was there - hah! so much for cheating 😆 And then I wanted to ask Kesar too, is we should replay that secret smile over the nimbu paani for Gulaal to see how not so poisoned by her food you feel 😆 Dono ke dono are too much! 🤣

I my opinion..kesar never showed till now that he actually craves for that attention from her...even in the milk scene or here in neemboo paani scene..gulaal never saw his expressions or his inner turmoil after hurting her...she is totally unaware of this side of kesar for now...If she ever knew abt it she would have made him the same 10 yr back kesar by now😆 as we knew her capability of handling kesar so much🤣

Edited by MR21 - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01


Sarcastic smile kicks in


Gulaal's like "what is WRONG with him?"


Gulaal's still confuzzled
Gulaal was hit by a disbelief high! It's amazing how much he manages to shock her, one act after the other hitting a new low along a new tangent each time!

Aur inko dekh lo - kauna kahega behind that cute boy smile is so much spite *shakes head*


MB's like W*F, Kesar? <--- LOL! MB only said it, technically I think everyone on the table (minus Dushy) had some nuance of a W*F expression on their face 😆

And again - the smile is so deceivingly harmless! Of course Dushy had no idea what was going to hit him, when he started with one of these! Such a difference from the birthday scene - where he can't but reflect his resentment even if he's trying to behave for everyone's sake. But here - he's such a cold and calculating man - all those smiles, yet each one ice.


Then Dushy speaks up to defend Kesar <--- Oh such a bad bad idea ... You just have to feel for him here 😔. He's actually trying to save the moment some remnant of grace, and not just defend Kesar here - and avoid the heat from rising. I'm sure he felt a burn by JK's dragon fire when she served him 😆


But Kesarji and sharafat don't go hand in hand - I think what pricks him is the word 'sanjog' - because his brother's loss, as he well knows, is not merely fate. And when the man to blame blames fate for things - sure you can't expect Kesar take it sitting down. It probably makes him mad to hear Dushyant push down the happenings of a decade ago down everyone's mind as merely bad fate.



And again - Dushyant's sin really never let's him be. And for a sin so grave, I can't but always wonder how much I still feel for him. The direction of the story again, so well oriented.


Okay Gullu's thought at this point? - kal raat ki doze kaafi nahin thi lagta hai, hmm.



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