Krishna - Arjun vs. RaDev

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Anu Kapoor

@anukapoor

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Posted: 14 years ago

Krishna and Arjun:

In Mahabharat, Krishna did NOT fight the battle for Arjuna...Sri Krishna was a charioteer for Arjun's chariot, but he did not pick up his Astra/Sastra and start fighting on behalf of his Parth... Not because he did not love Arjun enough, but because it was NOT his battle, it was the war between Kauravas and Pandavas. It was Arjun's BATTLE. It was Arjun who had to do his Karm...Everyone has to do their duty, there is no espace from that. He was with Pandavas but only as guide. He had made himself very clear to Arjun and Duryodhan that he will NOT fight. Duryodhan, in his arrogance picked the Naryani Sena while Arjun picked Krishna, knowing fully well that he will not pick up any weapon - coz Arjun knew where Krishna is, Dhram is there and hence victory would be inevitable. Arjun had to fight his own inner turmoil (the conflict of fighting against his own) and finally fight his own family(cousins and also teachers) to uphold the dharm and truth.

Relation to CB:

Barkha has NO right to interfere in the lives of RaDev...whether they decide to get married or not, and what they do with their life - the choice should be entirely theirs. Also, the same thing with Rohan, as also mentioned by Misti and Angie in one of the othe post, it is battle between Radhika and Rohan. Barkha has again no business in interfering and punishing Rohan...Also it is inhuman to kidnap and punish a person, when he is sick. She endangered his life and calls his mom - choti ma...how cruel is that...Also she being in profession of medicine (physical therapy), should be more responsible and should rise above these issues. Also, whether or not Radhika reveals the TRUTH of childhood wedding, is upto Radhika, but it is not Bakha's call.

Barkha acted without thinking and this has lead to all this misery and no one in the family including Radhika and Dev are happy.

Actions performed without thinking will have dangerous consequences. To act in the heat of the moment, without thinking things through is irrational.Sadly, acting emotionally instead of rationally is commonplace and the cause of much needless misery. The smart thing to do when emotions grip our imagination is to STOP and THINK before we act.Replacing thoughtful behaviour with thoughtless acts leads to material, mental, and physical suffering: lost dreams, emotional turmoil, and bodily pain and illness.

I don't think Barkha is Bigger and wiser than Kanha to pick up the battle of RaDev and perform their duties on their behalf. Being concerned, being a well wisher and advisor is considered okay to certain extent, but to interfere and overstep their boundary will make other's life a living hell.

My two cents.

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@chayya55

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Posted: 14 years ago

so according to you barkha should not have interfered and should have married dev --that would have been even worse(how could that tangle be untangled?) radhika is bent upon being the sacrificial goat she will never do anything her priorties are the samage and the old man ( isnt she supposed to love dev?)

she knows dev loves her and not barkha how will he be happy with barkha if he marries her- as barkha said there was not enough time left to think about anything else(kanha had plenty of time to persuade arjun) so according to you barkha should be like kanha--she is just a friend who is trying to help her friend

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..yajnaseni..

@..yajnaseni..

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: chayya55
so according to you barkha should not have interfered and should have married dev --that would have been even worse(how could that tangle be untangled?) radhika is bent upon being the sacrificial goat she will never do anything her priorties are the samage and the old man ( isnt she supposed to love dev?)
she knows dev loves her and not barkha how will he be happy with barkha if he marries her- as barkha said there was not enough time left to think about anything else(kanha had plenty of time to persuade arjun) so according to you barkha should be like kanha--she is just a friend who is trying to help her friend

Radhika is not sacrificing for SAMAJ or anything.She is sacrificing only for Dev.She refused to get married to Dev so that Dev can become the RP not for any samaj.

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Anu Kapoor

@anukapoor

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: chayya55
so according to you barkha should not have interfered and should have married dev --that would have been even worse(how could that tangle be untangled?) radhika is bent upon being the sacrificial goat she will never do anything her priorties are the samage and the old man ( isnt she supposed to love dev?)
she knows dev loves her and not barkha how will he be happy with barkha if he marries her- as barkha said there was not enough time left to think about anything else(kanha had plenty of time to persuade arjun) so according to you barkha should be like kanha--she is just a friend who is trying to help her friend

Chayya55: Thanks for your post.

I only said that Barkha should NOT have interfered in the lives of RaDev, but did NOT mention anywhere in my post that she should have married DEV. Getting married to Dev or NOT is her choice, her DECISION. But she has no right to take away the choice of deciding from RaDev's life. They are entitled to take their decision - even if it is wrong, if the decisions taken by them are wrong, then they will responsible for the result. She does NOT have to decide what they want out of their life. Yes, she does know DEV loves Radhika and he will never be happy being with some one else.

If Barkha had said NO to Dadaji (again her decision) - then Dadaji would have tried to find another girl, and this would have given Dev to think of something else. But agreeing to Dadaji and then lying to them caused bigger damage and now Radhika is being tagged liar and the ill fated one and also got Dadaji on the death bed. Even if the intentions were good she had to talk to Radhika and Dev honestly or better still try to convince Dadaji.

Radhika is NOT being a sacrificial goat. She loves, respects and adores Dev - there is not a iota of doubt, at least to me, regarding that. Yes, she does respect Dadaji - not only because he is elder but not also because he is Dev's Dadaji and Dev is close to him emotionally. Hence she is feeling guilty that because of this misunderstanding caused, Dadaji is sick again. After all, she was the one, who brought him back to health by sheer devotion, love and care. To her, Dev's family is her family too. Whatever decision Radhika took, be it because of her love for Dev or respect for Dadaji - be it right or wrong, it is Radhika's decision...

Similarly whatever happened between Radhika and Rohan is totally upto them to sort it out, it is Not right for Barkha to jump in...And what about the medical profession that she is in...is she Not doing injustice to the profession and humanity too? - then there would be no room or need for law is'nt it???

Coming to your last line, about Barkha being like Kanha trying to help a friend is not same, according to me...as I mentioned in original post - Kanha only advised Arjun that he has to fight his relatives because they are on the path of Adharm. Kanha did not pick up the weapon to fight the battle on Arjun's behalf - which is exactly what Barkha was trying to do, by imposing her actions on RaDev - with the mess she created - that was no help, but sheer interference, snatching their right to decide - leaving RaDev in a difficult situation, brought Dadaji to near death like condition and leaving everyone unhappy.

Barkha, to me, is no Kanha, but just a person, who has taken decisions about other's life and has brought a big question mark on Ra-Dev's relationship for which even she has no solution.

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seema

@chipak

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Posted: 14 years ago

Thanks Anu for such a well written post and relevant CB relation-- completely resonating my views

As you said Arjun had to fight his own battle likewise it was RaDevs battle where Barkha overdid her part. Barkha is no Krishna for Arjun-RaDev but she cud have fulfilled her role as Saarthi in those dire and desperate situation without so much web of lies. She is a helper but no player like Krishna and shud not have acted the way...and now whtever has befallen on RaDev's life is coz of BH's mindless action. Her help was needed in that situation but not to this extent. Being RPs fav. she cud have tried reasoning with RP before marraige and not after everything...

Her thoughless acts made everyone suffer like Dev and Rads acts during first marraige with Rohan..Anyways all that has been shown to incorporate various twists in story (not necessarily all actions justified) but highly unlikely that makers consider such mythic semblance while carrying story forward..all theme gets lost in middle and all that is left is some twists, circles..

I never wanted such a big hand of BH in story starting from her part in saving RP to now but her charcater was needed to support RaDev in their hardship times (itsdifferent that her overly concern ahs taken toll on their life)..And now RPs decision for barkha (i donot favour RP making decisions on someone else life like this) does not justify her actions or her punishment..

Completely agree "The smart thing to do when emotions grip our imagination is to STOP and THINK before we act.Replacing thoughtful behaviour with thoughtless acts leads to material, mental, and physical suffering"

Eid Mubarak and happy Gansh Chathurthi in advance!!

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fatssrilanka

@fatssrilanka

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Posted: 14 years ago

I partially agree with anu. If Barkha had married Dev 3 lives would have suffered.So,I'm happy she made Dev & radhika get married.But,she chose the wrong path & now everyone is blaming Dev & Radhika specially Radhika.Both RaDev life is in a mess because of Barkha. Hope Kanha knocks some sense in her & RaDev's relation gets recognised by the society soon.

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Anu Kapoor

@anukapoor

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka
I partially agree with anu. If Barkha had married Dev 3 lives would have suffered.So,I'm happy she made Dev & radhika get married.But,she chose the wrong path & now everyone is blaming Dev & Radhika specially Radhika.Both RaDev life is in a mess because of Barkha. Hope Kanha knocks some sense in her & RaDev's relation gets recognised by the society soon.

Thanks for your POV and your post. I again want to say that, I NEVER said Barkha should have married Dev. I only said, she does NOT have to take decision on RaDev's behalf. Every relation has a maryada and so also the relation of friendship has a boundary, which should not be crossed, which was crossed by Barkha and that is cause of all the messy situation. Even today if they show Radhika FORCING Barkha to marry Dev, it would be TOTALLY wrong and I really hope and pray that the CV's don't show that.

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zeezee55

@zeezee55

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Posted: 14 years ago

Anukapoor - I loved your post!! Wonderful.

I totally agree with you.

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KBCFan

@KBCFan

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Posted: 14 years ago

anu as usual, u r excellent and your posts are a pleasure to read

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Shankar

@-Shankar-

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Posted: 14 years ago

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I mostly agree but strongly disagree that Barkha is completely wrong.

Dont hit me with ur chappals! 🤣

If Barkha had refused to marry Dev:

DDji would have found any 'fit' suitor for Dev and do the shaddi.

Is Barkha married Dev:

Well, she would have been married to Dev, not radhika.

Krishna had once said (I think, not so sure, correct me if I am wrong) that if a lie can save a life it is better than a 1000 truths. Barkha saved her life, Dev's life, and Rad's life (even though she lost DDji's life in the process)

Barkha is not at full fault. Her and RaDev share equal blame. Barkha was right. If Dev was truly in love w/ Rad, he would have moved heaven n' earth to get her but no, he waited for Rad to give her consent. Now, i think he realized his mistake because he said he was glad Barkha lied and got RaDev married. So we should not blame Barkha here. If she were not in the story, RaDev would still be running from Rohan. So please, show some gratitude for the person who saved Dev and got RaDev married.

yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata
abhyutthanam adharmasya
tadatmanam srjamy aham

whenever there is a decline in dharma, then God will come in some form.

Well, Kanha came as Barkha. I agree that Barkha isn't God and shouldn't pretend she is but God helps those who help themselves. And since radev were not helping themselves, barkha lent a helping hand to retain, as the Buddha would say, "dharma"

Edited by -Shankar- - 14 years ago

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