Neil's expessive best: Kesar's final goodbye

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25/8/11

TOFFEE SCENE

The scene was not very impactful. As for Kesar's expressions, it was perfect. I like the contentment on Kesar's face seeing Gulaal enjoy the toffee. Also the inner voice of Kesar finding happiness in Gulaal's little happiness was clearly translated in his eyes. There was this desperation to ask her one last time if she can't come back home in spite of knowing her. That desperation is when the heart does not want to believe in logic or reality. He is her shadow as he once said and always has behaved so, but it looked really strange when he is in this "wherever you go, I shall follow" mode when Gulaal chooses to march ahead of him.

THE MORSING SCENE

This scene was very beautifully played. Kesar finding some peace in his solitude through the morse while he was lost in Gulaal's thoughts. His father looking from afar can sense his son's pain, but he was helpless. This scene was the best.

KESAR ON THE MOJRIS

Kesar is overwhelmed when he learns that MB wants him to take Vasant's place and take on family responsibilities. There is this self respect in him that still denies being pitied by Gulaal. Very graciously he names Raman to be the heir to Motaba's family fortune and principles. Kesar is surprised at Jamna Kaki's response too. Seeing all of them having such high expectations from him, Kesar is humbled. I like the voice modulation whe he says" Aap logon ne mujhe" then a slight pause, followed by "is laayak samja hi, yehi mere liye bahut badi baat hai".

I would have like MB to just talk it over to him to shoulder family responsibility rather than asking him to step into Vasant's shoes, literally. Again Vasant and Kesar has no individuality? There is this vulnerability in him when he says he can't manage the village's responsibilities when he is struggling to put his life together in the first place. He returns the mojris with such reverence. It reminded me of Bharata from Ramayan worshipping Rama's "Paduka".

Kesar is taken aback when his father says he would beg Gulaal. That was his respect towards his father and his responsibility to safeguard a father's self respect. Apart from that he also was suffering from the guilt that he has always forced a relation on Gulaal that caused her so much pain. He does not want anyone to cause her more misery by such emotional blackmailing.

Kesar loves her so much that it hurts him to even say that their relationship is only possible if she decides on her own without anyone pressurizing her to accept this relationship. There is this sadness, helplessness, despondency when he says this. He has agreed to let go off her for her sake, but he is no saint to continue living in this house and village without being close to her. Probably he was also worried that his stay in this pall of gloom might force his family to approach Gulaal and the last thing he wants from her is pity. This talk might have pushed him to decide that it would be better to settle down elsewhere than remaining in this village. There is a determination and finality in his tone as he can't pretend normalcy anymore and act any saintly any further.

When Pannba reached out to him to declare her affection for him, I could not really get involved it the scene. The actor who played Pannba earlier was too good. And the scenes during those days between Kesar and his mom could really translate that closeness of a mother-son bond. This scene was bland. I had really liked the powerful scenes between Neil and Natasha who earlier played Pannba, especially the scene where he hugs his mom during the Kesar and Talli's engagement, the scene where he eats in the kitchen telling Pannba that he still loves to have the left over paratha with pickle and also the scene where he asks his mother regarding Gulaal and Dushyant's relationship or even when he speaks to her asking what is wrong in his love for Gulaal. I really miss that awesome chemistry between Neil and Natasha. This person who acts now is an average actor, nothing impressive at all.

Kesar however silently appreciates Motaba's support in his decision to leave the village. But for god's sake, one doesn't have to literally get into another's shoes to symbolize that he is willing to take on responsibility. That is really absurd; why not get him into Vasant's clothing as well. At least Gulaal might agree to be with Kesar going by his looks and mistaking him for Vasant.

26/8/11

KESAR'S LETTER

Kesar feels he always communicated to her better through letters. Actually not, because if he did, she would have long back understood his genuine feelings for her. Kesar still hopes that Gulaal would at least meet him once before he leaves. He was only expecting a courtesy call/visit and it had nothing to do with asking her to be his wife. And in spite of that he runs to look for her the minute he learns that she is absconding.

KESAR GULAAL AT THEIR HOME

The scene was badly planned what with the hide and seek between them. But again, his expressions in remembrance of her, was good. I can't understand Gulaal's denial mode even now. There is a limit to this stubbornness.

KESAR GULAAL SCENE

The scene between Kesar and Gulaal failed to create an impact yet again. I can't deny the fact that Neil was awesome. But the character Gulaal's stubbornness caused an unhappy environment when they were seen together. Instead of feeling happy that "Oh yeah, finally the lost souls meet, I was feeling if the scene could be done away with. I hate the fact that Kesar has to bend in front of Gulaal's ego every single time. He goes to meet her and I couldn't be happy seeing her smile when she heard his bike.

The dialogues were fine. Kesar came over to meet her one last time to save her the trouble of even going and visiting him. He did not even complain why she was absconding last night andleft everyone worried. How much more could he love her, in spite of having the disappointment that she did not come over to meet him after knowing that he was leaving, he chose to carefully say "mujhe toh laga ki jaane se pehle humari mulakat hi nahi ho paayegi". That is because he knows she won't come and so he has decided to take that step forward to see her. And tells her" Tu nahi aayi, toh maine socha ki mei khud hi tumse miloun".

The expressions were fine from Kesar, his tears spoke his feelings in leaving her, in not having her in her life, in not being able to convince her of his love but I don't like the fact that he is even begging her to keep the morsing in his remembrance and she is even denying that. He is even willing to let go off what was dear to him because Gulaal had taken an interest to it once before. Kesar is at least slightly happy that she went on to say that she would remember him without this token of remembrance.

There was ample hurt and pain that rolled down as tears. The feeling was brought forth well by Neil through the strained, choked voice and pauses in between the dialogues as he says, nothing is permanent and change is inevitable. But this begging standing at her door was something I can't relate to. There is a limit to which one can put oneself to such insult. Well there may be argument that this is love. But somewhere this doesn't click. For a relationship to work, the partner's should be equals. They can be flawed but one always having an upper hand is not healthy.

Kesar's generosity and humility is seen in the last words he speaks to her. Kesar has risen in love, so to say that he can even go ahead and blame himself if she cries and also says she would give him happiness through "yaadein", yeah may be he finds happiness even in the pain she caused him by rejecting him. This is literal rejection, disqualification based on her set standards to qualify to love her, to be her life partner.

This scene between Kesar and Gulaal was supposed to be emotional. I did get involved watching it. There were these conflicting emotions in me when I saw this. One being moved by Kesar's words, getting influenced by his hurt, pain and longing. The other was to dislike Gulaal's behavior because Gulaal's attitude shown in the last two episodes really put me off. So my emotions were under check the minute I saw Gulaal in this scene. Honestly her tears did not move me a bit. A woman who is as stubborn as this, who knows very well about her feelings, she hears constantly from her mother and Kunal too about her feelings and then too does not reciprocate his love.What is the point in crying looking at him, what is stopping her? Wonder who is going her to crown her for being the chaste wife to Vasant. No one. Not her parents, her wellwishers or her friends. Is it the issue of being virtuous and unblemished by being singularly devoted to her dead husband? Then she is no more because she does get conscious by his physical proximity and her mind is already filled with Kesar, Kesar and Kesar. Then what is stopping her.

I could see Gulaal's feelings for Kesar but her holding back is strange, even at this point she needs the DIVINE INTERVENTION OF VASANT to tell her to accept Kesar. And what if he did not turn up in her dreams?? She won't accept Kesar? This whole bit of Gulaal accepting Kesar sounds like he is waiting after his probation and a written exam to be qualified as HUSBAND. They could have really made it more beautiful with the availability of talented actors to execute a scene.

Edited by MeySimi - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago
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MeySimi: Spot on with the observations and especially the line about divine interventions and probation/exams...I am a bit let down because I wanted to see Gulaal's self realization and acceptance of Kesar as truly being her equal... No widow/er, divorcee or a person whose past relationship/s have not worked needs their ex (even in the form of bhoothnath) to nudge them forward...it is so very unjust to the new person in their life that they cannot be accepted for who they are!! Instead they need the visa from this third entity who unbeknown to them was an equal (if not greater) partner in the relationship!!! oh well...
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Ganga, today I felt Gulaal's emotions were shown better...at the heart of it, Gulaal will always remain a stubborn character blind to many things until they hit her like a freight train...so today her conflicting emotions were well shown I felt...maybe that's just me.

As for the last scene and Kesar giving her the morsing (sp?), I didn't really see it as "begging" from Kesar's side honestly...didn't get that sense at all...Kesar was very emotional in that scene but he never BEGGED...In fact the very fact that Gulaal couldn't even bear to take that from him shows just how much control she DOESN'T have over her emotions anymore that she fears even giving an inch...and the fact that her hands were inching over to put her hands over his in the very last bit before he wrenches his hand away and walks off spoke volumes IMO.
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The whole house scenes where both Gulaal and Kesar are recollecting their happy days with each other were beautifully done. I believe that Gulaal realises his pain, and just can't face him one last time in there, their "home" together as a couple ... she is scared that she might just give him more pain, or she might break down seeing his longing and pain for such immense love for her..

Its like she said the next morning... when he came, that she was sorry for causing him so much pain... it hurt her to see him like that... and thats why she wanted to, yet couldn't meet him at night.

However, Kesar being Kesar, cannot just go away without meeting her... can he? he comes over to meet her, and she also cannot control herself so much that she will away from him, when he is just going away for good...
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Anu,
Her emotions were clear, but again what is stopping her. The word begging I used in the sens he tells her" mere yaad mei hi sahi"
please have it with you.
Scarletthara,
I did not like the way she hid herself from him. As to seeing and causing him more pain, she already does. Then the question is why is she holding back, what is stopping her. As I said, I can see her struggle, my question is why is she struggling, why does she need any more push from Vasant in her dreams than any living person today
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Neil always the best .I will miss him a lot .It is very hard to say kesar's final goodbye.😭

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Originally posted by: MeySimi

Scarletthara,
I did not like the way she hid herself from him. As to seeing and causing him more pain, she already does. Then the question is why is she holding back, what is stopping her. As I said, I can see her struggle, my question is why is she struggling, why does she need any more push from Vasant in her dreams than any living person today


I know it is all crystal clear to all of us... but not for Gulaal..

what can I say except that you can never understand the way a heart works... what may be glaringly obvious to everyone, (here that these two are perfect together), the concerned person may remain oblivious to it... its not like you can force someone to realise that this is LOVE... yes, she loves him, but she hasn't realised it yet. She knows she misses him, can't stay happy without him by her side... but does not know if she will be able to reciprocate his love for her... completely, and not out of compassion for him...
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Very well said Ganga!! I am in two minds about today's episode...yes we got the much needed emotional connection between Gulaal and Kesar in the final scene but just like you..I don't understand her stubbornness anymore?? For the past two episodes we have been harping about Kesu being a charity case and today I felt absolutely horrible for him. All he wanted was to meet her once before he left and even for that one meeting he literally had to jump hoops. He waited for her at his house, then he went looking for her at their old house, he tried to talk to her on the phone and finally when all else failed he landed up at her house...that is his love for her and I understand that.

A couple of months back, Gulaal had berated Kesu for being selfish. She called his love paap and offered herself to him thinking that is what he wanted. At that point, Gulaal had said that love is not selfish so basically you do whatever you can to make the person happy...right? We know she loves him and maybe it has not hit her yet that she loves him as a woman loves a man BUT no matter what she loves him...as her Kesu...so going back on her words..how can she cause him so much pain?? I don't get it...was it really so hard to meet him in person and say goodbye to him knowing that that little gesture would leave him with a memory of her to last him a lifetime??

The last scene was emotional but for that I give 100% credit to Kesar. I mean, C'MON GULAAL..the boy is offering you his tuntuna...JUST TAKE IT!!! Even in that gesture she asked so many questions and she still did not take it...Kesu had to practically press it in her hands before he left!!

I loved Gulaal's character but honestly speaking, I have not liked the way she has been since the Janamashtmi episode...I know it hurts her but it hurts him even more. She can go over to unite the family, she can talk to him on the phone to get Talli married, she can go against her morals to get Talli and Kunnu married against the family but she cannot pick up the phone to say goodbye to Kesar?? Sticks and stones won't break his bones... dude...but words or rather the lack of words from her have broken him...

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Originally posted by: Anjalg

Very well said Ganga!! I am in two minds about today's episode...yes we got the much needed emotional connection between Gulaal and Kesar in the final scene but just like you..I don't understand her stubbornness anymore?? For the past two episodes we have been harping about Kesu being a charity case and today I felt absolutely horrible for him. All he wanted was to meet her once before he left and even for that one meeting he literally had to jump hoops. He waited for her at his house, then he went looking for her at their old house, he tried to talk to her on the phone and finally when all else failed he landed up at her house...that is his love for her and I understand that. Exactly, a goodbye over phone is not too much to ask for. She knows very well how he feels, he has even called her to speak to her and still she doesn't. I can't understand this at all.

A couple of months back, Gulaal had berated Kesu for being selfish. She called his love paap and offered herself to him thinking that is what he wanted. At that point, Gulaal had said that love is not selfish so basically you do whatever you can to make the person happy...right? We know she loves him and maybe it has not hit her yet that she loves him as a woman loves a man BUT no matter what she loves him...as her Kesu...so going back on her words..how can she cause him so much pain?? I don't get it...was it really so hard to meet him in person and say goodbye to him knowing that that little gesture would leave him with a memory of her to last him a lifetime??
For all that he has done for her, she cant even bid him a decent farewell is beyond my comprehension.
The last scene was emotional but for that I give 100% credit to Kesar. I mean, C'MON GULAAL..the boy is offering you his tuntuna...JUST TAKE IT!!! Even in that gesture she asked so many questions and she still did not take it...Kesu had to practically press it in her hands before he left!! That is what I meant when I wrote as "begging"

I loved Gulaal's character but honestly speaking, I have not liked the way she has been since the Janamashtmi episode...I know it hurts her but it hurts him even more. She can go over to unite the family, she can talk to him on the phone to get Talli married, she can go against her morals to get Talli and Kunnu married against the family but she cannot pick up the phone to say goodbye to Kesar?? Sticks and stones won't break his bones... dude...but words...
All say Gulaal deserves Kesar. Well true, it has to be that way. But does he deserve this treatment. Isn't he entitled to such devotion in love back from the woman he picks as life partner. Well, nothing can be changed. The female leads are always Tyaag ki moorti and male leads are supposedly supportive husbands whatever insanity the heroine resorts to. Blame the writers and the sympathy factor of the audience

Thanks Anjal,
I am happy that someone shares my viewpoint.I knew most would have liked the episode when compared to two days torture.
Edited by MeySimi - 14 years ago
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Ganga, like I said, the last scene was emotional but full credit goes to Kesar...his unwavering and unconditional love finally brought him to her just to say goodbye!! She smiled when she heard his bike, ran to the door and then what?? She has always been FIRST in his life and he has been LAST in hers...while watching the last scene I was actually getting angry at her when she was questioning him about why he wanted her to have the tuntuna??? Just take it Gulaal because its not like he wants to stand around and cry all day...

Anyway, I still don't like the fact that she needs a push from her mom, Reva, Talli, Kunnu, MB, an accident and Vasant's ghost to realize that what she feels for Kesu is love...that just plain dilutes the whole plot! Oh well...more power the CV's right?
Edited by Anjalg - 14 years ago

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