Neil's expessive best: Kesar's final goodbye - Page 3

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

THIS is what Gulaal is. She is stubborn. It's not like she doesn't want to reciprocate the love but she doesn't know how to accept the fact that she is in love with him. After rejecting his love for so long, how can she so easily give in and say what we all want to hear? She avoided him at Talli's house because her emotions aren't within her control any more.

So yeh..I agree with Nur! LOL!

Bingo, Reemz...I totally second this...This is typical Gulaal...today I honestly felt as if I was back to feeling familiar with her character...this is exactly the reaction I'd expected from her.

Originally posted by: Anjalg

Exactly!! Battle for what??? Kesar is living proof..he walked out on his family, took up a job, broke the DV...I mean all these things staring at her in her face and she needs everyone's approval, push, an accident AND her dead husband to push her in the right direction??

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

[quote]Its not like he will jump on her. He has accepted that there is no future for them...he asked during the toffee scene and once again he knew the answer, he told MB...she won't come back...I know her decision...so at this point what is she afraid of?? He is leaving for good...just pick up the phone and say bye bye. She has lived for everyone and I mean even Dushyant but she can't give something simple and basic like a final goodbye...He changed himself for her...she used to call him selfish and he completely changed...could she not put her fears or emotional turmoil aside for a couple of hours and go meet him?[/quote]

How do you make yourself bid goodbye to the last person you want to see leave your life?

If you've seen the final FRIENDS episode, you'll know what I'm on about. Rachel gives a personal goodbye to everyone except Ross and when he blasts her for not even having the decency to not even say bye, she explains how she cannot imagine saying it to him.

Reemz..how did Kesu get the courage to say goodbye??? Gulaal is much much more courageous than him but he found it in himself to go over, face her and say goodbye...difference is that he can't leave without seeing her one last time and she can let him go without seeing him one last time!

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

[quote]Its not like he will jump on her. He has accepted that there is no future for them...he asked during the toffee scene and once again he knew the answer, he told MB...she won't come back...I know her decision...so at this point what is she afraid of?? He is leaving for good...just pick up the phone and say bye bye. She has lived for everyone and I mean even Dushyant but she can't give something simple and basic like a final goodbye...He changed himself for her...she used to call him selfish and he completely changed...could she not put her fears or emotional turmoil aside for a couple of hours and go meet him?[/quote]

How do you make yourself bid goodbye to the last person you want to see leave your life?

If you've seen the final FRIENDS episode, you'll know what I'm on about. Rachel gives a personal goodbye to everyone except Ross and when he blasts her for not even having the decency to not even say bye, she explains how she cannot imagine saying it to him.

Exactly...Anjal, the answer to your WHY is right there...can it really be so simple as everyone telling her and she will accept? No, today she was battling herself...and honestly THAT is what makes for the emotional high point...Gulaal has ALWAYS been a headstrong/stubborn woman...she has NEVER given in easily...LEAST of all to her OWN emotions...she is TERRIFIED of facing her own emotions...that fear was STARK on her face today in my opinion.

The very fact that it is so difficult for her IS because this is KESAR...She easily brushed aside Dushyant and anyone else and moved on...but in the case of Kesar, she doesn't even have courage to speak with him?? Why?? BECAUSE what she feels for him terrifies her...and yet she keeps on yearning...the fact that she went to that house, the way her hands tried to hold on to his before he pulled out...all of this shows Gulaal's emotions today clearly.

And honestly this isn't a comparison of Kesar's love for Gulaal to hers for him...they will always be DIFFERENT...they will never be expressed in the same way either...today they showed all of Gulaal's emotions in NUANCES.

Originally posted by: Anjalg

Reemz..how did Kesu get the courage to say goodbye??? Gulaal is much much more courageous than him but he found it in himself to go over, face her and say goodbye...difference is that he can't leave without seeing her one last time and she can let him go without seeing him one last time!

She needs constant push. Well all have pushed her in the right direction all this time. Why Vasant? I am reposting a portion of the Vasant's issue bothering me

What is the point in crying looking at him, what is stopping her?

Wonder who is going her to crown her for being the chaste wife to Vasant. No one. Not her parents, her wellwishers or her friends. Is it the issue of being virtuous and unblemished by being singularly devoted to her dead husband? Then she is no more because she does get conscious by his physical proximity and her mind is already filled with Kesar, Kesar and Kesar. Then what is stopping her.

I could see Gulaal's feelings for Kesar but her holding back is strange, even at this point she needs the DIVINE INTERVENTION OF VASANT to tell her to accept Kesar. And what if he did not turn up in her dreams?? She won't accept Kesar?

Of course they are different Nur! They are not supposed to be the same but Kesar sure in hell does not deserve the pain and she knows she is the cause of this pain! He has decided to leave and go away and part of his decision is because he wants her to move forward as well. I keep saying this - she is selfless and strong but Kesar has always played second fiddle in her life. He had been trying to say goodbye to her...he was her backbone when the entire family threw her out...she could not put her emotional stuff on the backburner for once and go meet him?

I bet if she heard MB was leaving for good she would have been there i one jiffy knowing full well that Kesar would be around as well...

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Kesar is far more courageous than Gulaal. Gulaal has put this courageous act for years when we all know how vulnerable she truly is. Isn't that what the past few months have been about? Peeling that onion which was refused to open up. Kesar has the courage to say goodbye because he has never denied his love while Gulaal has always closed up her emotions!

Bingo, Reemz!

I actually think we've come full circle now...Gulaal has ALWAYS internalized everything so she's had more to fear to be honest...I think Poonambaa's dialogue today was very meaningful...Kesar freed himself from everything when he realized for and confessed his love for her...he's always been open and expressive about what he feels...and that is what gives him the courage to even make the hardest of goodbyes.

Gulaal has courage for many other things...but when it comes to her own emotions...the truth of her own emotions, that courage evaporates in an instant...only KESAR has the power to make her this vulnerable and scared of even herself.

Originally posted by: nureat01

Exactly...Anjal, the answer to your WHY is right there...can it really be so simple as everyone telling her and she will accept? No, today she was battling herself...and honestly THAT is what makes for the emotional high point...Gulaal has ALWAYS been a headstrong/stubborn woman...she has NEVER given in easily...LEAST of all to her OWN emotions...she is TERRIFIED of facing her own emotions...that fear was STARK on her face today in my opinion.

The very fact that it is so difficult for her IS because this is KESAR...She easily brushed aside Dushyant and anyone else and moved on...but in the case of Kesar, she doesn't even have courage to speak with him?? Why?? BECAUSE what she feels for him terrifies her...and yet she keeps on yearning...the fact that she went to that house, the way her hands tried to hold on to his before he pulled out...all of this shows Gulaal's emotions today clearly.

And honestly this isn't a comparison of Kesar's love for Gulaal to hers for him...they will always be DIFFERENT...they will never be expressed in the same way either...today they showed all of Gulaal's emotions in NUANCES.

Originally posted by: Anjalg

Of course they are different Nur! They are not supposed to be the same but Kesar sure in hell does not deserve the pain and she knows she is the cause of this pain! He has decided to leave and go away and part of his decision is because he wants her to move forward as well. I keep saying this - she is selfless and strong but Kesar has always played second fiddle in her life. He had been trying to say goodbye to her...he was her backbone when the entire family threw her out...she could not put her emotional stuff on the backburner for once and go meet him?

I bet if she heard MB was leaving for good she would have been there i one jiffy knowing full well that Kesar would be around as well...

Anjal yaar, come on...if she went to go meet him, wouldn't that make things all too convenient?? I honestly think the fact that she couldn't even bear to meet him shows how rattled she is and that is what makes her emotions more profound.

Wouldn't it have been worse if she had coolly gone to meet him and behaved as she had at the pooja and then gone home to eat some elaichi toffees?

Does it not matter that today she wasn't INDIFFERENT...today she was an emotional wreck in many ways...I feel this is huge.