19th Aug 2011 : - Krishna Ji marries Satyabhama. - Page 3

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Honestly, if SP were unprepared and hadn't thought this whole plot thru, they shouldn't have come up w/ it in the first place. This being a mytho story spanning several years i.e. episodes, it's bound to have almost everybody except Krishna himself play cameo roles. For instance, Rukmini features mainly in the time she was abducted and married, then the Tulabharam incident and the birth of Pradhyumna. After that, she's pretty much forgotten, except @ the end. Satyabhama too has a few episodes where she plays a major role, but other than that, by & large forgotten.
Even Balarama plays a major role in Krishna's childhood (not part of this serial), but aside from the wars w/ Jarasandha and the abduction of Rukmini, he too has mainly cameo roles, like during the marriage of Subhadra, the rescue of Samba and his confrontation w/ Bhima after the latter struck Duryodhan on his thighs. Arjun doesn't surface until Draupadi's swayamvar, and is prominent during Yudhisthir's reign in Indraprastha even b4 his exile. He helped Krishna get 3 of his major wives, married Subhadra on Krishna's request and was apparently a mentor to Pradhyumna & Satyaki.
So the Sagars would have done this by having as much of the casting done in advance, and then alerting each actor about the duration of their roles. Some, like Jarasandha, Sishupala, Shalva are really short, and once those characters are killed, the actors would be released. Others, like Rukmini, would come and go. So the way to do it would be to advise such actors who are likely to have long idle periods when they would be needed back, and allow them to play other roles in other serials. That would have allowed for a better casting, while neither idling actors while they're being paid, nor losing them altogether if they didn't want to afford them during the idling time.
But that also leaves open the sore issue of costumes, which has also been woeful in this serial. Just the different dress styles b/w Rukmini, Jambavati & Satyabhama is revealing: wouldn't the kul-vadhus of the Vrishnis be expected to follow the same styles? I honestly never thought the Sagars were up to doing a complete serial on Krishna, and JSR alone proved it, let alone DBSK.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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thanx for the update...

the marriages were too rushed i guess...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_


Even Balarama plays a major role in Krishna's childhood (not part of this serial), but aside from the wars w/ Jarasandha and the abduction of Rukmini, he too has mainly cameo roles, like during the marriage of Subhadra, the rescue of Samba and his confrontation w/ Bhima after the latter struck Duryodhan on his thighs. Arjun doesn't surface until Draupadi's swayamvar, and is prominent during Yudhisthir's reign in Indraprastha even b4 his exile. He helped Krishna get 3 of his major wives, married Subhadra on Krishna's request and was apparently a mentor to Pradhyumna & Satyaki.
So the Sagars would have done this by having as much of the casting done in advance, and then alerting each actor about the duration of their roles. Some, like Jarasandha, Sishupala, Shalva are really short, and once those characters are killed, the actors would be released. Others, like Rukmini, would come and go. So the way to do it would be to advise such actors who are likely to have long idle periods when they would be needed back, and allow them to play other roles in other serials. That would have allowed for a better casting, while neither idling actors while they're being paid, nor losing them altogether if they didn't want to afford them during the idling time.
But that also leaves open the sore issue of costumes, which has also been woeful in this serial. Just the different dress styles b/w Rukmini, Jambavati & Satyabhama is revealing: wouldn't the kul-vadhus of the Vrishnis be expected to follow the same styles?



Right Vrish! I totally agree with you. Even now it is not too late to mend ways. As it is. It has become a norm for CV's to mend ways when the TRP's are low for a continuous span of time. Then, they think of getting good actors. Instead good planning as per your suggestion could have helped such casting and story woes NOT to occur.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with you Vrish...the present day Sagars do not seem to get Krishna's life story right in any serial. RS's SK was the only Krishna serial to ever show his entire life after BRC's MB.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

I agree with you Vrish...the present day Sagars do not seem to get Krishna's life story right in any serial. RS's SK was the only Krishna serial to ever show his entire life after BRC's MB.

And even they got it badly wrong, and competed w/ BRC for mangling the story. Some examples - Nakul killing Shakuni (instead of Sahadev), Dushashan getting killed b/w Shakuni & Duryodhan (as opposed to b4 Karna), Ghatotkacha marrying a demon princess of Pragjyotisha (who Krishna defeated) and she giving birth to Barbaryk (this shown after the war i.e. Ghatotkacha was already dead), Dhritarashtra, Gandhari, Kunti & Vidura leaving after Yudhisthir's coronation (they stayed on for 15 years). I heard that this part (where Sarvadaman played Krishna) was done after Ramanand Sagar had left the production of the show, and it showed.
Like we suggested in the Mytho forum, the best serial for any of these TRP crazy channels would be an episodic serial, like MSDK, rather than an epic story that's likely to take some years to run even if done right. Another thing - in the past, I didn't think that actors had to be knowledgable of mythology, but after seeing a bunch of performances, particularly Priya's, I do.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

Honestly, if SP were unprepared and hadn't thought this whole plot thru, they shouldn't have come up w/ it in the first place. This being a mytho story spanning several years i.e. episodes, it's bound to have almost everybody except Krishna himself play cameo roles. For instance, Rukmini features mainly in the time she was abducted and married, then the Tulabharam incident and the birth of Pradhyumna. After that, she's pretty much forgotten, except @ the end. Satyabhama too has a few episodes where she plays a major role, but other than that, by & large forgotten.

Even Balarama plays a major role in Krishna's childhood (not part of this serial), but aside from the wars w/ Jarasandha and the abduction of Rukmini, he too has mainly cameo roles, like during the marriage of Subhadra, the rescue of Samba and his confrontation w/ Bhima after the latter struck Duryodhan on his thighs. Arjun doesn't surface until Draupadi's swayamvar, and is prominent during Yudhisthir's reign in Indraprastha even b4 his exile. He helped Krishna get 3 of his major wives, married Subhadra on Krishna's request and was apparently a mentor to Pradhyumna & Satyaki.
So the Sagars would have done this by having as much of the casting done in advance, and then alerting each actor about the duration of their roles. Some, like Jarasandha, Sishupala, Shalva are really short, and once those characters are killed, the actors would be released. Others, like Rukmini, would come and go. So the way to do it would be to advise such actors who are likely to have long idle periods when they would be needed back, and allow them to play other roles in other serials. That would have allowed for a better casting, while neither idling actors while they're being paid, nor losing them altogether if they didn't want to afford them during the idling time.
But that also leaves open the sore issue of costumes, which has also been woeful in this serial. Just the different dress styles b/w Rukmini, Jambavati & Satyabhama is revealing: wouldn't the kul-vadhus of the Vrishnis be expected to follow the same styles? I honestly never thought the Sagars were up to doing a complete serial on Krishna, and JSR alone proved it, let alone DBSK.


in that case it's very foolish of the CV's ..if they thought of this concept that they will show the life history of Shri Krishna then they should have decided on the chronological order of the major events in Krishna's life , when and how r they gonna show it...whether the story will be restricted to dwarka only or pandavas will be included coz they r an integral part...first n foremost decide on showing something new which will catch viewer's attention..what hasn't been shown earlier in Mahabharat or shri krishna...OR follow the text religiously and not make any amendments..NOT over dramatize the characters, it looks so aweful 🤢 jarasandh, rukmi n recently satrajeet...the life story must be in chronological order...they showed 2 weddings in 2 episodes 😲 what's the point? abhi rukmani must be ready to welcome a LOT more, woh toh yahi karti rahegi bechari 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

And even they got it badly wrong, and competed w/ BRC for mangling the story. Some examples - Nakul killing Shakuni (instead of Sahadev), Dushashan getting killed b/w Shakuni & Duryodhan (as opposed to b4 Karna), Ghatotkacha marrying a demon princess of Pragjyotisha (who Krishna defeated) and she giving birth to Barbaryk (this shown after the war i.e. Ghatotkacha was already dead), Dhritarashtra, Gandhari, Kunti & Vidura leaving after Yudhisthir's coronation (they stayed on for 15 years). I heard that this part (where Sarvadaman played Krishna) was done after Ramanand Sagar had left the production of the show, and it showed.
Like we suggested in the Mytho forum, the best serial for any of these TRP crazy channels would be an episodic serial, like MSDK, rather than an epic story that's likely to take some years to run even if done right. Another thing - in the past, I didn't think that actors had to be knowledgable of mythology, but after seeing a bunch of performances, particularly Priya's, I do.


i didn't have the patience to sit through shri krishna after shri krishna grew up 😆 all the oldies looked similar, the voices were all dubbed, the pandavas and kauravas looked exactly similar 😆 i think just one actor played all the buddhas roles , serious cost cutting was done 😆 one person played bheeshma, vasudev, akrur, dhritrashtra, drona only their voices were diff...n their expressions were worth watching 🤢 how they showed their anger n frustration, plus the constipated looks...🤢 similarly, all the rani's were 🤢 the jarring costumes 😆 but there was one good thing, at least Lord Krishna behaved like Lord Krishna of the scriptures...the yellow light behind, the fog , the effects ghatiya hi sahi but tolerable...NOW they can create a WOW serial but they r seriously not doing justice to it by manipulating the story..
Edited by _charu_ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

And even they got it badly wrong, and competed w/ BRC for mangling the story. Some examples - Nakul killing Shakuni (instead of Sahadev), Dushashan getting killed b/w Shakuni & Duryodhan (as opposed to b4 Karna), Ghatotkacha marrying a demon princess of Pragjyotisha (who Krishna defeated) and she giving birth to Barbaryk (this shown after the war i.e. Ghatotkacha was already dead), Dhritarashtra, Gandhari, Kunti & Vidura leaving after Yudhisthir's coronation (they stayed on for 15 years). I heard that this part (where Sarvadaman played Krishna) was done after Ramanand Sagar had left the production of the show, and it showed.
Like we suggested in the Mytho forum, the best serial for any of these TRP crazy channels would be an episodic serial, like MSDK, rather than an epic story that's likely to take some years to run even if done right. Another thing - in the past, I didn't think that actors had to be knowledgable of mythology, but after seeing a bunch of performances, particularly Priya's, I do.

Yeah, I agree that the Mahabharat part of SK was badly skewed in some parts, but I was just trying to make a point that at least they completed the serial. Not many who begin Krishna's life story seem able to finish it.🤔 Even BRC completed the story, but his was more on the Mahabharat than Krishna's life, because Krishna's childhood was very rushed and completed in a few epis, and Krishna's samadhi was also not shown (in SK too).
Btw, the Barbarik story was shown after the Mahabharat war, but as a background story and not something that was happening then. It was also shown rather accurately, because wherever I read the story online, it matches the episode that SK had more or less (a few deviations here and there took place, but nothing major). Barbarik really was the son of Ghatotkacha and the Princess of Pragjyotisha, who was the daughter of Mura whom Krishna defeated and got the name Murari.
But you're right about the order of events in SK being really skewed at times. Nakul killing Shakuni in place of Sahadev was not the only one, and I feel this was shown more out of the CV's ignorance than a deliberate attempt to show wrong information. Ramanand Sagar did not take the latter half of SK since SDB's entrance during Dwaraka Nirmaan, and he was very knowledgeable about the scriptures as we can see from his Ramayan and earlier SK that centered on Krishna's childhood...since TRPs were non-existent during RSR and RSK times, the inaccuracies shown tell us that RS's sons did not know very much about Krishna's latter life. Some of the details were made up or distorted (especially the story of Pradyumna's kidnapping).
And I've always felt that actors should have at least some knowledge on the mytho role they are to play. Though they do receive a script, the expressions, emotions, and mentality of the Godly character they are told to portray cannot be taught through script. Priya said in her interview that she knows nothing about Krishna's life or the character of Rukmini, so how can we expect her to portray Rukmini's selfless, faithful, and devoted nature? It is natural for her to show Rukmini a bit jealous or insecure after Krishna's other marriages, because that is how any ordinary woman would react and if Priya knows nothing about Rukmini, she will think that is how Rukmini probably reacted as well.
With fictional roles, actors have the freedom to incorporate some of their own feelings and beliefs in the character they are to portray, but mytho roles have already been written down by saints since ages, and an actor cannot just mold their character to fit their interests. Ignorance is no excuse.
Edited by JanakiRaghunath - 13 years ago

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