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Posted: 14 years ago
Hi,
Im new to IF...i jus came across this ff..
and god...i liked ur language...pls add me to ur pm list.
Anupama
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Posted: 14 years ago

Hi,

u r a born writter...
awesome hold on language...
i think i posted but its not reflecting..
pls add me to ur pm list..
waiting for ur next update..

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: night13



The two points which I failed to make you understand..
-- There is a difference between infidelities vs man or woman of the opposite sex
-- The much needed closure in Geet's character is now another open end question.

The NYT started with story of Geet and I assume you will end with her character getting the justice, closure which is needed.


ps.. archaic meaning classic.. man & women!:)




I think some of this debate is resting on different foundations. H, you seem to be coming from the perspective that a person's sexual orientation is not a choice, but a reality. Whereas, night seems to be of the track that a person can be 'turned' or 'reversed' from their sexual orientation. I think such debate will likely have little meeting ground.

As for Dev being gay, how does that keep Geet from achieving or not achieving closure to her character? She has shown resilience before and in this too, she will persevere in her own way... These are not easy issues for anyone and there is no easy way to come out of it either... additionally, I think the concept of 'closure' of a character is somewhat of an oversimplification.

On another point, people of different sexual orientations face similar social stigma whether they are in India or Toronto; only the degree is different. Furthermore, such issues are also dependent on an individual's psyche rather than simply the group norms.

-Devi


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Posted: 14 years ago
I agree, Devi! Since I havent lived in the west- I am making an assumption here based on what ever I read in the media...but I felt a person is more liable to use marriage as a decoy in India than in the west. Especially since I did not register the part that Dev was living with family and that there may have been pressure on him to fit in.

It is definitely a person's own choice whether they want to stay in the closet and fit in or they want to embrace who they are. Just that my reading of two very different societies- led me to make the assumption that there would be more opportunities for the latter in the West. I mean atleast Canada's Health Minister isnt out giving media bytes that homosexuality is a disease!!


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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: 6thElement



Ok...wrote up a whole lot and lost it. 😡

Alright. Dev and Geet stayed with his Mom (Part 60 Genesis) But I do agree that I had not gotten to the back story and stressed about the part why he did what he did. I felt that would draw focus from our leads, but I guess that was needed too.

As for having another angle to Dev's betrayal, In my mind, I couldn't have him involved with another woman. Didn't matter about since when he got involved with the affair, because, in case he married Geet first and found another woman later, then the part he didn't make anything out of their wedlock cannot be explained.
Or in the vice versa situation, if he was involved with someone even before their marriage, then why get married in the first place. The desperation to get married to her would not have risen in the first place.
The wedding was more out of a necessity to keep his identity (which I agree should have been highlighted)

As for Geet being clueless...Dev had a clear facade going there with flirting up other women, which did not rise doubts in other men's minds. And for the latter part of their marriage, she was mostly away or he was traveling (Part 60 Genesis).

I can only hope there will be some justice in writing out Geet's state of mind in the next few updates. Thanks for stopping by.
Hasini


Relationships are complex or maybe we make them complicated...Maybe you did drop the hints in the story and we were unable to piece them together...

I think why get married at all (for Dev)- would remain a question whether he was cheating on her with a guy or a girl. I was expecting infidelity, and now think the gender is moot here after a point. The more I think about it, the more I feel- why infidelity at all? Maybe it was a dysfunctional relationship- never meant to be...with some mistakes from her side and some from his...Relationships like those always makes one uncomfortable- whether you see them on screen, read about them or even come across them in real life. You always expect the person to act- walk out, confront or do something? No, or am I the only one who feels that way?

As you said it, we can all debate about Dev's motivations for doing so- but thats a separate story! Who knows maybe you will choose to tell that one day too 😊

<I hope you consider this - equivalent to a rose bouquet and diamond bracelet😉😆>

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: -pixie-


Relationships are complex or maybe we make them complicated...Maybe you did drop the hints in the story and we were unable to piece them together...

I think why get married at all (for Dev)- would remain a question whether he was cheating on her with a guy or a girl. I was expecting infidelity, and now think the gender is moot here after a point. The more I think about it, the more I feel- why infidelity at all? Maybe it was a dysfunctional relationship- never meant to be...with some mistakes from her side and some from his...Relationships like those always makes one uncomfortable- whether you see them on screen, read about them or even come across them in real life. You always expect the person to act- walk out, confront or do something? No, or am I the only one who feels that way?

As you said it, we can all debate about Dev's motivations for doing so- but thats a separate story! Who knows maybe you will choose to tell that one day too 😊

<I hope you consider this - equivalent to a rose bouquet and diamond bracelet😉😆>

The above underlined sentences compelled me to share something personal with you..it's something that happened to one of my family friends.They are settled in the US and have three girls,all happily married.I can't mention names,so let me call the second daughter, M. M had an arranged marriage to an Indian boy settled in US itself,hailing from a good,conservative family.Everything was perfect in the beginning..the only problem was that the guy refused to get intimate with her..he used to come up with all sorts of weird excuses. The first few months,she kept mum..She didn't even tell her sisters fearing what would happen if parents (both sides) came to know about it. Finally,frustrated out of her mind, she called me up..I suggested counselling..She called back saying he was not co-operating. After a few days, i got a call from her in the middle of the night. She was continuously sobbing but I understood this much..he confessed that he was impotent!! I consoled her,but felt that she should be talking this out with her family..She said she can't because he had threatened to commit suicide if she went open about this.
The guy I tell you was one smart cookie..eventhough they didn't get intimate,he somehow managed to get her emotionally involved with him..he could easily manipulate her..the next step he took was even more unbelievable..he begged and pleaded with her to go for IVF.I still don't know how the hell he convinced her. I was also totally unaware about this and got a rude shock when she told me that she was pregnant.Both the families were very happy..he was happy,she was also happy and I was the only one left sulking...
Anyways to cut the long story short,after her delivery within a couple of months,she discovered the truth about her husband. He was not impotent,he was gay..He knew that she wouldn't help if he told her the truth so did all the drama. She was shattered and this time had the sense to inform her parents.He did everything pssible in his power to stop this news from reaching his parents...you know the usual,suicide threats..emotional blackmail..when that didn't work...death threat!! He was mortally scared of his mother,it seems...Anyways,her family stood by her,she got a divorce..he was disowned by his family..he moved in with his partner..She met this wonderful doctor (a white man), who accepted her and the lil' girl whole heartedly..she now has another baby... but there is still trouble in her paradise,the former husband wants custody of their daughter..She doesn't mind sending her to him but the thought that he is living with another man ,is stopping her.
Sometimes, people can be so selfish that inorder to hide all of their skeletons in the closet,they don't think twice before manipulating and destroying the life of an innocent!!
Edited by tanya_vi - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Loving the progress in Maannet's relationship.
Geet is getting really bold. Totally unexpected.
Maan is geeting naughtier. Totally expected.
Feeling sad for Dadi.
She is really concern on her grandchild's well doing.

Dev is back.That is sth i didnt expect at all.
But loved the way Geet intro eveyone with great confidence level.
Maan taking Rishabh him along was a great deal.
Wow that was really violent.
I was expecting sth like man-to-man talk.
But its so fun to see Dev's got smacked.
It would be funt if the punch was directly fromMaan
But its ok Rishabh would do as well.

Dev was being a total jerk.
He was just fooling around,so that he can hide his real identity.
I truly didnt expect this.
Geet was deeply in guilt as he blames herself for their failed marriage.
But Dev was just being selfish to hide who is he really without revealing who is he really.
Smart move by Maan to track Naina to be with Rishabh.
Loved the whole convo btwn Maaneet.
It felt so real with his meaniful words and her meaningful expression.

So Hasini you are about to end NY Times.
Thou I have been visiting NY every now and then
But I always never fail to give a comment for all ur lovely updates.
Thank you for giving such an wonderful story.
Would love to hear move wonderful updates from you...




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Posted: 14 years ago
By Mistaken i Came to Your Thread n New York is my Fav..place so i just Read ur Heading...n After that i was Struck with ur Story for almost two weeks ...Ur story pre occupied me with day n night n Emotions So well portrayed...this is the first story where i feel that feelings are more important in an relationship be it any relationship husband-wife,frnds, anything...wen maan came to knew geet is married still he STOPPED himself bt all of a Sudden ...DESTINY place its game as TRUTH came in front DIVORCE...geet scatttered...n maan SUPPORTING her...just by Standing BESIDE her...ASSURANCE...bt she was not in her sense n wen she came back she realized ALL THE WAITING FOR FIVE YEARSS...are just teached her new lesson ...bt dis she came to kow by MAAN...Loved it...n After that all the scenes between them was Mind Blowing...his realization tht he is in love n his proposal...His understanding...his Waiting for her response...his anger towards himself for not being with her wen she needed...her confusions...her POV towards her surrounding,her missing for him...n most important DAADI being helping them...was Mind Blowing,...Sudden marriage realization Goin to Same places Again in NEw york...to Do what they had missed the Most..understanding each other ...N MOST IMPORTANT TALKING...n clearing every thing i love it ...all of a suddden Naina n rushabh i love they bonding...once i was wished i could hav motre of them rather than maan n geet scenes...n u always suprised with thoughts ...it occupied my mind for entire day...n i was lost in ur story even if i dun read ...That MAGIC u created it ...for all ur reading...i just want to say A BIG THANKu...for Telling a A Wonderful piece of urs...which towuched My Soul...Waiting eargerly for next post...
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Posted: 14 years ago
Sorry for not commenting on last four parts. But when you have pesky relatives ruining your routine, it just can't be helped. But I must have you know, I am very loyal to the writers I love. I followed up the updates diligently on the phone. Just couldn't comment from the same medium.

Whatever may have been the reason that could have been attributed to Dev, infidelity or his sad attempt to disguise his sexuality, it would be a deceit albeit its nature. And either ways, it would have left Geet questioning the role those 5 years played in her life.

I always wanted to see a confrontation between Dev and Maan and was waiting for the due time. It was all that I envisioned and more. It was for her. It was for him too, but only because it would bring a closure or her.

If you can't get her to talk to you, get her worried for you. Rishab-Naini seem to be heading for their closure too.

Looking forward to the next updates eagerly.
Edited by jazzerette - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Part 94: Half-truths Update 1

Her fingers shook as it danced in mid-air, contemplating if it was the 24th or the 25th floor button that she wanted to press. A heat roll went to her head and she ran her palm roughly over her eye and temple, pulling the skin up in a tensed move. Why was it so difficult to make such an annoyingly simple decision? She screamed mentally.

Her original thoughts had been to haul him towards were her brother was sitting and leave him there. But the second she had seen Geet's pale face and expectant eyes - asking of nothing but to be left alone with her husband - she had turned around taking up the task of depositing her husband to a bed, upon herself. She wasn't going to seek attention or bring into limelight her questionable relationship with her husband, right then. And she knew better than to do that, when her bhabhi was redefining her past.

Without knowing what had come over her, she'd pressed 25 and in a few seconds, she was dropped off at their penthouse floor. His body was stitched to her side as she had his arm over her shoulder. The weight of his body weighed her down, as she almost had to drag him across the floor to their door. In those moments, she couldn't help but wonder, why her brother had not offered help to take her husband down to Meera's place. She wanted to believe that he was consumed with Geet's woes and that his intentions were not one bit siding towards a ploy, to get her to make the decisions about Rishabh's sleeping arrangements. However, there was a raw gnawing feeling that told her otherwise, which she dismissed quickly, thinking it was only her ever-present cynical self. After all uncertainty hardly ever faded and doubts were bound to be rekindled, when he lurked close to the brims of her consciousness...and her body too.

She elbowed the door of her room and from the crack that unobstructed her path, she dragged herself along with him. It seemed easy to lay him straight from of the foot of the bed and so she did, kneeling on one knee, hurling him further towards the headboard and gently letting his head to rest, while pulling a pillow down. His feet dangled from the edge and she took care of his shoes and socks, before he could draw his feet up onto the bed. She went over to the far side of the room, away from the door, and bent in to unbuckle his belt. Drawing it off the loops of his pant, she was about to get away when he did an unexpected turn and the jilting action made her fall into bed with him. Another tuck and a roll and with a few small movements, she was caught within his snares for an arm.

She wanted to get up and perhaps risk waking him up, while his hold was still light around her. But with an uncalled for nervousness she was stuck to him. Like the fall of a pebble on thin sheet glass, she felt the crack disperse in blinding speed and just like that her will to budge disintegrated. She was motionless as the clock ticked away...

It was predictably hot and his breath toasty warm that heated up every inch of her skin. She could wake up to open a window or two and with that, she knew would come the choice to walk out to another room. When she thought of the moment she would have to make a decision, by bringing up that predicament upon herself, she felt a blanket of inertia move over her body, making her muscles go limp beside his...a conspiring will jailed her inside and she hated herself for that. Sighing loudly, she tried to turn around and without a care she shuffled, but when she heard him mumble and furrow up his head, ever so slightly, she stilled holding her breath in accession. It would be shattering to her, now as she realized, that she couldn't bear to have him wake up and walk away and it left her unnerved, bruising the little of whatever pride that was left in her. And yet she didn't move.

She watched him with eyes fully on him, titling her head back and her splayed hand resting on his chest given the proximity. The faint light helped bring up the sheen on his black shirt, telling her it was new and she didn't want to believe that she was mentally chiding him for adding yet another black garment to his closet. The scolding didn't last long, as she felt the thud of his heart against her palm, dimming and thrusting into her hand, as if it was alerting his presence to her, that he was close...very close indeed.

Lost in vague overpowering thoughts of him, her finger slowly circled his top button. Like her hand was severed from the reflexes that she controlled...No it can't be her...not when it flicked the button through its hole and she saw a sliver of his pectorals come into view. And before she knew her index finger had begun tracing the curve of his singlet, carefully over the hem of it, without ever feeling his bare skin there. With time, all his buttons were off and in a bashful, slick move, she slowly tugged out his singlet, pinching in between the thumb and her index finger, all the while holding her watch over his face; vigilant for any trace or a sign that would tell her if he was awake.

She convinced herself she was only curious to see if he had grown a beer belly from all the drinking he was doing, but the truth came blaring into the forefronts of her mind, when she felt the tufts of his stomach muscle as she ran her bold hand over it. And with that, she tucked in her own belly, as her skin picked up a memory of his hand, grazing her skin there. Her eyes scrunched close as she felt a knot right where she knew he always left his fingers rest; an angle acutely off her belly button. Her lips parted, tipping her head forward which made her forehead rest on his chin, and her feet extended as a stripping nerve wrenched and her toes tingled as she fought off the naked sensations that crawled her skin.

No one should go through this, she thought, as her eyes rumpled further, and she squished up his undershirt in a cringing agony. No...no she wasn't going to kiss him. She wondered if perhaps just placing her lips close to his would relieve her of the angst. Shoving on the plush of the bed with her feet, she raised herself slowly to his lips and let it linger close, bare and shameless, secretly whispering with hope for him to kiss her back. It stayed within that reach grazing his lips whenever it quivered with painful anticipation and mix of denial that she didn't want it...but somehow needed it only because of a blinding dark spell, he had cast her under.

Her heart thundered, when he shifted brushing on the falling slope of her lips, making her sharply hold her breath in a flash, to lie flat on his back. His hand had nudged her to turn with him and now had her lay more onto his side than on the mattress itself. In the frightening escape of an abrupt twist, she had frozen in a snap, and the sudden chill that had traversed inside her was condensing over her skin, making her muslin shirt dampen with her sweat. Was she imagining all this, or was this truly happening? She wanted to check the pulse at her neck by slowly raising her hand to it as her heart raced a mile a minute. She felt his hand withdraw from her body unconsciously. He turned away and his hand from underneath her body was no longer holding her and it once again made her jump from his sudden retreating.

In nothing short of a blip, she was feeling the withdrawal of his touch, as if she recognized the draining of a drug that made her regain her cogency. She didn't need the clarity, not when it was painful and disappointing and she couldn't acknowledge it, or rather because she knew too well why she couldn't acknowledge it. By some cosmic play, she was sampling brief periods of time to tell her what it was to 'be with' and 'away' from him...'be held' and 'untouched' by him...'be accepted' and 'dismissed' by him, even if he had never intended to do any of it.

She spun around too, holding onto the little pride that was left in her, such that their backs faced each other. For a moment, she left herself drift into every thought that streamed into her mindfulness and she reckoned it was only time, she would break, that her eschewing of the facts didn't even make it half-truths, that the part that fleetingly denied him too...was always his.

Knowing he was hardly a turn away, she struggled to fall asleep. Her feet kicked up and she rolled into a ball hoping for some or any of the coziness, she had experienced moments before, to return. What with the sultry air and the humid weather... she still thought she'd had a prospect of slipping into a stupor somehow had she stayed within his grasp.

Now even sleep evaded her without him by her side. Her restless body ached with a yearning to lose the awareness...when she felt him once again shift close to her, resting his chin by the curve of her neck, stoking her skin there with his breath. Her curls that was resting there swaying with his intake and exhaling of the air from that tiny space and the memory of his touch over her belly, no longer one with his hand encircling her waist to rest right about her navel. Her head gently pressed slightly into the pillow from a lightness that came over her, feeling him sheath her back with the length of his body. Without moving another muscle, she settled with the knowledge that in the deep corners of her heart, she was living from that minute on...in hope of a future that was not far, when she would do the same in the waking minute of the day.

With the grey light of the night, her smile deepened knowingly...

What she didn't know wouldn't hurt her, and so it was, when his lips curved along with hers, knowingly too.


To be continued...

Hello y'all...THANKS THANKS THANKS...Lord NYT was one heated up thread a few days ago. Glad its coming to live its old days (my fault or not 😉 ) Posts and comments...

Tanya - Thanks so much gurl for choosing this thread to share something quite personal. I'm sure its an eye opener to some and distressing one for few others. My heart goes out to your cousin.

Others, Do hold me on that pinky promise...its still good and will do it tomorrow evening, after one helluva work week.

Edited by 6thElement - 14 years ago

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