Kesariyo Rang Mane Lagyo- 24 June 2011

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Mein aa gai😛

And I just remembered these lines from DTPH...
Do chaar kadam par hum the,
Do chaar kadam par tum the,
Do chaar kadam ye lekin,
Sau milon se kya kam the...

Dont know but these lines kept on playing when I saw Kesar adamant and Gulaal stubborn...wanted so desperately to shake them both and say that Guys time out!! Kesar ! you need to give breathing space to her and Gulaal you need to come out of that self imposed exile and realize that you have a heart and that beats too..feels too...how can you forget this guy for whom you fought the whole household and the whole village...

So although I am not liking this ugly turn of the things...today I found two broken hearts hurting each other to no extent...
Gulaal I think I have spoken of enough on the other thread...
But Kesar...
He is not thinking straight...and I guess it goes with the age too..that fanaticism, that obsession that pagalpan and ofcourse,,,,the stubbornness ...which Gulaal also has in abundance...
But I think that when Gulaal said that she did not see him in that light and for her it has been only Vasant...I found him matured enough to take it at the face value...
He was not hurt or angry or anything at her words...If she didnot see him in that light..he understood...
You see he is not insecured anymore in his love...there was a brief time, when he did not realized his feelings and was feeling insecured because of the Dushyant angle...
But after the showdown that love has settled its dust ...now it is no more on a shaky ground...It is firm...he knows what he is and where he stands...
But that absence factor...*sigh*...that has always been his weak point... When he was away from Gulaal for 10 years, he knew she was there with him...she used to write to him, used to come to meet him...
There was one kind of satisfaction ...one kind of assurance that she is there...but now without her around ...he has kind of lost it...lost his wits, his ability to think and to judge...
Because wrong or right...heartless or cruel...Gulaal is the balance in Kesar..and the moment she is out, his world is topsy turvy...
And so he pleads her to come back...

I dont know if I can call it his 'zidd'..It is a kind of 'zidd' ...yes...but then what is he asking???
She says that she has not seen him in that light...he is ok with it...
She says that he cannot take Vasant's place...he is ok with it...
She says that she will not come back...he is NOT ok with it...
There is something so essential in her presence ...he needs her aura around him...
the kind of frenzy that catches him is so unawares..he doesnot even realize who much obsessed he becomes with the thought of bringing her back...that he doesnot realize that his persuasiveness is turning into one whole "zabarzasti' and Gulaal is not going to bow down like this..

A woman who had to fend off for herself and for Kesar for years and then ultimately who has had her own way for years too...her supermacy established and no questions asked is not likely to cower down like this,...And she is turning inside her protective shell...
Like a tortoise who would not differentiate between the person trying to harm him or person trying to protect him...it would not come out of the shell...it would only come out slowly if you give space and time to it...then it would lurk out a bit and see whether it is safe or not to venture out...
Kesuda so needs to give her that space...
But Lo!! me here not to do Gullu gullu...but Kesu Kesu!!
and that is what I did when I saw him writing Gulaal over and over again in a notebook...
It is really very striking similarity that both of them share...both Gulaal and Kesar have a tendency to put their thoughts on paper...and talking to the people who are deeply inscribed in their hearts through letters...Gulaal talks to Vasant..and Kesar talks to Gulaal in that manner..
Now, me a person who used to hate such kind of adoloscent tactics of drawing hearts and arrows and cupids..but there is something about hte way he writes...
It is Gulaal without any decorations or hearts and arrows that actually makes me adore the guy some more...
I dont know I have a tendency to read more in all his actions ..
but his writing simply 'Gulaal' in hindi...without any adorations or decorations or doodles around it, made me feel like he would always take her, like her, love her and want her as she is...for him she is Gulaal and that is it...

she is the rain on his parched land heart...She can pour down or just drizzle... he is happy...

And Raman...I swear...Duggu needs to take him away ASAP and register him as the newbie transgender 😡...Sometimes I wish that Dushy had thrown him also in the deep waters or that Ramu's lover had taken his hand while falling down from the terrace we would have been spare th horror of his presence😡...

I so hate the vulnerable look Kesar gets on his face when he listens to these people...
The only people who actually are with him are Raman and JK...and amazingly both speak Kesar's heart...today also Raman said it ...that you love her what is wrong with it...it is so ironical...the only person who actually said this thing after the whole show down is Raman...who doesnot know the first letter of Love...and Kesar is listening to him...What irony!!!
And every word that Raman says makes perfect sense and is in perfect rhyme to Kesar's thought...What is wrong in asking for what was his own... That was the first time anybody told him in not so many words that Gulaal was HIS...

Even he himself doesnot see it that way anymore...he sees it the way that HE is HERS...APNE KESAR se tu kaise aisa kar sakti hai...that is what he said...even during that revelation about Dushy...he had broken down on only one thing 'How could you have kept the secret from me...YOUR Kesar!'
Damn!! The saffron boy so takes my heart away with his antics..and I crave for those days instead of this total ugliness and doomsday feeling we are having

and slowly and steadily Raman wins over the disturbed mind and Kesar pounces on Dushyant...
It is kind of frenzy that takes over him with the thought that she is away from him...you can see that in his voice, gaining its momentum as he talks about it...
No amount of wisdom would penetrate his skull...she is sooo oxygen in his lungs that the thought of her deprivation makes him breathless...
The way he absolutely and pointblankly says that he CANNOT live without her...
I think if ONCE, once Gulaal comes back...he will be normal...he would not even hound her in the entire house...he will just be happy that she is back ,...as we saw after the fail of the impending Talli disaster...not once had he approached her...It was she who had come trying to find him...it was she who had gone to put the letters back in his room...
he had not sought her out once...
It is not the physical proximity he seeks...it is that security that her presence brings to his existence, the balance that Gulaal gives to his life... it is that feeling he craves...
and in that craving he has gone senseless..and is in a state of complete disarray...

His recontre with Revjibhai I think we have discussed it all...and ofcourse after a long time Revji got his due..I personally think that hte actor was a dubbing artist..and his voice is the voice of many lead english characters in hollywood films dubbed in hindi...

But that apart...Revji's stand was right and I think he did try to show mirror to both the stubborn lives...he had shown it to Gulaal..and today he showed it to Kesar as well...he was right when he said that Kesar was not doing Gulaal favour by going to Panchayat...ofcourse we all know Gulaal had gone there first...but after the marriage fiasco..and Gulaal under the impression that Kesar had done all that to harass and get back to her..I think it was a natural reaction...she did not expect Dushy to rule against her...
But Kesar knew that if he tried to implement the order...his and Gulaal's family would be in danger of being stopped the hukkapaani...He even forgot that his sister was in that house, who could very well face difficulties...and I think Revji would have just gone and said few things to get Kesar on track had JK not butted in...
JK and Kesar have lots of similarity...both speak the exact truth but are liked by none...JK did have a point in what she said ..but the way she said was disgusting and Kesar too was disgusted,,,Poor guy had got a ally in devil's disguise...His cupid was too fat to get him his lady love...😆

I loved the fact that whatever the circumstances he cannot tolerate her insult..the moment JK said that Gulaal should be grateful that Kesar is accepting her as she is you could see the change in his facial expressions... he was not liking this...he was not comfortable with the thought that she was not up to the par by anybody's standards...for her she was always so far above that he did not even consider her to be within his reach...
and the moment JK said that Gulaal was older to him and also his brothers widow...you could see him utterly disgusted and walk away...
I guess if he had stopped JK at that time, Revji would have softened up... But kesuda does have bad timing na...he runs up the stair only to see his fate being decided and ruined by his so-called elders...
And again the line..'Gulaal will not come back ever in this house'! it knocked the daylights out of him...
The one thought which terrifies him and gives him nightmares is now again out to haunt him...
So now what would he do!!!

The challenge he throws to that Bin-Buddhi-Sudhi😡...I wonder what he plans to do next...
I swear I am having major hair loss probs because of this guy!!!
God save my hair!! Bhad mein jaaye baaki sab😛



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Posted: 14 years ago
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I would come back to read it when my vision is better.
Though I would want to say both brothers have same problem
Vasant had written Gulaal all over that fabric when she had gone for the ceremony after the wedding...Pag Phere . The same was used as Pagdi by him which was worn by Gulaal in the Deeyarvatu episode.
Kesar did not find a peacock feather or brush I guess, he is penning Gulaal's name on paper.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks Srushti, nothing to add then what you have said and what i have said and what this episode said lol
Though i agree with Revji bhai and so on
And even i do believe that somewhat he will be back to normal if she is back in the house lol
You know if we take out everything we know of Kesar and what he has gone through and see him today and things he does, it does seem he is bordering obsession, i mean the signs are there...
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Originally posted by: -Srushti-


I loved the fact that whatever the circumstances he cannot tolerate her insult..the moment JK said that Gulaal should be grateful that Kesar is accepting her as she is you could see the change in his facial expressions... he was not liking this...he was not comfortable with the thought that she was not up to the par by anybody's standards...for her she was always so far above that he did not even consider her to be within his reach...
and the moment JK said that Gulaal was older to him and also his brothers widow...you could see him utterly disgusted and walk away...
I guess if he had stopped JK at that time, Revji would have softened up... But kesuda does have bad timing na...he runs up the stair only to see his fate being decided and ruined by his so-called elders...
And again the line..'Gulaal will not come back ever in this house'! it knocked the daylights out of him...
The one thought which terrifies him and gives him nightmares is now again out to haunt him...

@ bold: Now that's a thought Srushti. I didn't think on those lines, but you're right. I'm not going to say Revji would have had a melt down, he would probably even have given Kesar a why do you care when you cause all the trouble crap - but thing is, he would still have stood up, and maybe it would have mattered sometime hence. Just maybe, Revji would not have gone as far as saying Gul will never come back!

Anyway I would have liked to see him stand up against JKs loud words then, now that you say it. Great post btw! (And I finally figured what KRML is 😆 )

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Dont know but these lines kept on playing when I saw Kesar adamant and Gulaal stubborn...wanted so desperately to shake them both and say that Guys time out!! Kesar ! you need to give breathing space to her and Gulaal you need to come out of that self imposed exile and realize that you have a heart and that beats too..feels too...how can you forget this guy for whom you fought the whole household and the whole village...

you know it's really endearing and annoying at the same time to see them both give way to their biggest faults and spoil the process of falling in love with each other. i don't know which other pair in the history of romantic couples have that quality. oh wait elizabeth and darcy. 😆 no wonder kes-gul rock as a fictional "romantic" couple.😆

So although I am not liking this ugly turn of the things...today I found two broken hearts hurting each other to no extent...
Gulaal I think I have spoken of enough on the other thread...
But Kesar...
He is not thinking straight...and I guess it goes with the age too..that fanaticism, that obsession that pagalpan and ofcourse,,,,the stubbornness ...which Gulaal also has in abundance...
But I think that when Gulaal said that she did not see him in that light and for her it has been only Vasant...I found him matured enough to take it at the face value...
He was not hurt or angry or anything at her words...If she didnot see him in that light..he understood...
You see he is not insecured anymore in his love...there was a brief time, when he did not realized his feelings and was feeling insecured because of the Dushyant angle...
But after the showdown that love has settled its dust ...now it is no more on a shaky ground...It is firm...he knows what he is and where he stands...
But that absence factor...*sigh*...that has always been his weak point... When he was away from Gulaal for 10 years, he knew she was there with him...she used to write to him, used to come to meet him...
There was one kind of satisfaction ...one kind of assurance that she is there...but now without her around ...he has kind of lost it...lost his wits, his ability to think and to judge...
Because wrong or right...heartless or cruel...Gulaal is the balance in Kesar..and the moment she is out, his world is topsy turvy...
And so he pleads her to come back...

srush, you big bum! you write in such simple, yet beautiful language to describe such small nuances of their characters, reactions and behavior, and then you come and write in BOLD when i post that you hate me for writing "well"! mine is nothing compared to this dear!😳 totally heat-warming AND heart-wrenching at the same time.😳

I dont know if I can call it his 'zidd'..It is a kind of 'zidd' ...yes...but then what is he asking???
She says that she has not seen him in that light...he is ok with it...
She says that he cannot take Vasant's place...he is ok with it...
She says that she will not come back...he is NOT ok with it...
There is something so essential in her presence ...he needs her aura around him...
the kind of frenzy that catches him is so unawares..he doesnot even realize who much obsessed he becomes with the thought of bringing her back...that he doesnot realize that his persuasiveness is turning into one whole "zabarzasti' and Gulaal is not going to bow down like this..

you know, even i am confused with his behavior. i dont why he would require her presence now when he ignored her for 10 whole years. maybe he knew there was at least one side that wanted to be in touch (gulaal), but now that she doesn't want anything to do with him, he's the one trying to get her back. what a "tag" game!😆

A woman who had to fend off for herself and for Kesar for years and then ultimately who has had her own way for years too...her supermacy established and no questions asked is not likely to cower down like this,...And she is turning inside her protective shell...
Like a tortoise who would not differentiate between the person trying to harm him or person trying to protect him...it would not come out of the shell...it would only come out slowly if you give space and time to it...then it would lurk out a bit and see whether it is safe or not to venture out...

👏oh! one of the best analogies of all times!👏

Kesuda so needs to give her that space...
But Lo!! me here not to do Gullu gullu...but Kesu Kesu!!
and that is what I did when I saw him writing Gulaal over and over again in a notebook...
It is really very striking similarity that both of them share...both Gulaal and Kesar have a tendency to put their thoughts on paper...and talking to the people who are deeply inscribed in their hearts through letters...Gulaal talks to Vasant..and Kesar talks to Gulaal in that manner..
Now, me a person who used to hate such kind of adoloscent tactics of drawing hearts and arrows and cupids..but there is something about hte way he writes...
It is Gulaal without any decorations or hearts and arrows that actually makes me adore the guy some more...
I dont know I have a tendency to read more in all his actions ..
but his writing simply 'Gulaal' in hindi...without any adorations or decorations or doodles around it, made me feel like he would always take her, like her, love her and want her as she is...for him she is Gulaal and that is it...

you know, it kind of gave me the feeling that all that matters, is gulaal. her happiness (as he has often wondered about out loud), her wishes, her well-being. it reminds of twilight in a way that kesar is kind of "imprinted" by gulaal. he'll do anything for her sake, for her satisfaction, will do anything to keep her happy, and till that time he'll be the strong yet sweet man he is. once she is gone, depression takes over his mind, he's shattered. right?😕 have you read twilight?😕

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And again the line..'Gulaal will not come back ever in this house'! it knocked the daylights out of him...

arrey uski kya chinta kar rahi! i dropped dead after getting a heart attack listening to his declaration. now i have been resurrected by true love's kiss!😳😆

The one thought which terrifies him and gives him nightmares is now again out to haunt him...
So now what would he do!!!

The challenge he throws to that Bin-Buddhi-Sudhi😡...I wonder what he plans to do next...
I swear I am having major hair loss probs because of this guy!!!
God save my hair!! Bhad mein jaaye baaki sab😛

omg. you have such pretty hair! put lots of amla oil!😳 and keep it tied in braids.😆 like young talli!🤣

btw, awesome post. some parts were so beautifully written, i just skipped them cos i was left wordless after reading those..😆 KEEP IT MY DEAR CHOOZA!
Edited by shalini92 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Lovely analysis as always...😊
I do wish Kesar had spoken up when revji bhai was ripping his head off...I kept saying bol Kesar bol!!! But he just stood there and took all the abuse without even trying to clarify his position. And when JK was talking as well instead of running off...He probly thought that nothing he does seems to work at all these days so better he not say anything at all in case it makes the situation incredibly worse!
I actually felt no sympathy for gullu today. If it makes me seem stonehearted, well woh toh hona hi tha, gullu ka effect! I've been bugged with her ever since she decided to bring the panchayat into this instead of even trying to resolve matters in a normal fashion, and you do sow what you reap. She felt she knew best coz she's the all-knowing wise gulaal, she would have thoroughly applauded the decision if they'd given her what she wanted, but since they didn't, she was perfectly fine with ignoring the whole unpleasant situation as a whole...Just in the way she's been ignoring Kesar's feelings for the past week or so. My lack of sympathy is also helped by imagining her fiery reaction if the situations were reversed. If the panchayat had ruled in her favour and Kesar had refused to accept that, had gone around insisting that she was his wife, he'd have been shot down in no time. And again the whole of talsagra would have been against him, except for JK ofcourse! 😆

Actually to be honest I was perfectly fine with Kesar going to the panchayat. I didn't feel he did anything wrong at all. It's like in those courtroom dramas where the defence attorney cannot ask abt things which are hearsay unless the witness first brings them up by him/herself. Gullu first brought the justice system into this, so Kesar has every right to ask the system to uphold the justice that it itself decided upon in his favour. What was the bloody point otherwise? She can't have her cake and eat it too. She made this panchayat part of her life so all's fair now in love and war! And like JK said, how will the village ever take this sarpanch or the panchayat seriously if she publicly flouts their judgements?

Revji bhai was very sweet standing up for his daughter and all to the panch fellows, but I was saddened by that whole scene with kesar, merely because Kesar has so few people in his corner and he just lost another one. It's like every time he tries to take one step forward, he eneds up three steps backward. But I didn't agree with every accusation that he was heaping on kesar and his family, like JK said, where was all this indignation abt badnaami when his daughter initiated this whole process? 😡

I was actually thinking when Raman came to the mandir and said that line abt basaaing his younger brother's house that he was going to become mota cupid no 2!! 😆 Then his ulterior motives came through, so scratch that idea!

Farzana
Edited by kajenARfanatic - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't have anything to add here. I love how you've written everything so clearly, I was re-living the emotions of KG 😳

Thank you ❤️
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Brilliant loved each and every word...superb👏
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Originally posted by: MeySimi

I would come back to read it when my vision is better.

Though I would want to say both brothers have same problem
Vasant had written Gulaal all over that fabric when she had gone for the ceremony after the wedding...Pag Phere . The same was used as Pagdi by him which was worn by Gulaal in the Deeyarvatu episode.
Kesar did not find a peacock feather or brush I guess, he is penning Gulaal's name on paper.



Ganga...What happened to your vision???
And Fantastic you remembered that...Yes...Vasant had done that..I wonder if that PAgdi is still there and one day Kesu might wear that...
You know it might be co-incidence and I amy be wrong but when Revjibhai and Gulaal were talkng I saw a wall cloth hanging and I had the impression it was the same that Gulaal had sewn years back inscribing her and Vasant's name on it...
hahah goood that Kesar did not go and find Feather...It would have looked ridiculous...because Vasant wore Dhoti where as Kesuda wears jeans😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lennie

Thanks Srushti, nothing to add then what you have said and what i have said and what this episode said lol

Though i agree with Revji bhai and so on
And even i do believe that somewhat he will be back to normal if she is back in the house lol
You know if we take out everything we know of Kesar and what he has gone through and see him today and things he does, it does seem he is bordering obsession, i mean the signs are there...


LOL Lennie today there have been some brillliant post and Revji as someone said was the star of the whole event...
and yes...Kesar is bordering obsession ,...and as I said...it goes with the age...and that is why I am very apprehensive as to what he is gonna do next...why do I have a feeling of him doing something drastic...
And I think Sudha's stupid curse has made him desperate too...he really wants to come out of this ..but the thing is the only person who would get through him right now needs someone to get through her...

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