Shaan's dream-parent's nightmare! lol- my take

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This is actually not a Vela topic! I am not farigh today but I am loving this track that I want to make a post with all the valid points of what this track has to offer.

Sorry if my words are too simple and not some big words but this is how I am. Simple and straight to the point. No big words to compensate for it! 😃

I am not trying to build hopes but yet at the same time, the way it is being shown is def. a good track from every angle. It seems to be headed in many stories. I love all the parallel tracks the CVs are showing. Kudos to them!!!

Anyways to the topic now!

So the tracks that the CVs are showing are following and I will go in details about each too.

1. Shaan's responsibility

2. Sunil's and Akshay's neglect and dismissing Shaan on basis of him being immature.

3. Boo's making Sunil and Akshay realize that their treatment towards Shaan is wrong and it can really hurt him more (Love her!)

4. Sunil's manipulative behavior- this is going to bite him in the ass one day or it can actually work.

5. Shaan's dream is his parent's nightmare. Basically Shaan vs. Sunil!

So let's get into the details of each of the new tracks!

1. Shaan's responsibility- It is high time that Shaan is made to realize his responsibility not just towards his family and Khanak but towards himself too. So far he has no goal and he is home most of the time. music is a good business but it takes years to establish a name in it. It's not an overnight fame job unless u are really good or rich and famous to begin with or unless ur Miley Cyrus!😆 Waise I can give him pointers on how to establish his name!😆 I know a thing or two😉. Anyways back to the point. I am loving it how they used his friends to make him realize it, something that his parents should be doing. Khanak is his strength and support and she is doing marvelous job at it (Yashu is fab! Abs. fab! She stands out even as a support!). I loved it how they used indirect attempts to make him realize that how irresponsible he has been and only because no one bothered to tell them or his family kept him in dark thinking he was young and all. (if you ask me it is a complete BS. Im sorry no disrespect to parents but when you are treated as a prince and spoilt brat, you will turn out to be as one. Most of the time the credit goes to parents for that. now I understand what my mom used to mean when she always warned me that whatever you do, always think of your parents before doing something wrong because parents are the first one to be blamed).

2. This is my favorite part of the track. Sunil's and Akshay's denial of involving Shaan in family issues or matters is wrong. They keep thinking that how Shaan is too young and immature. Of course he will be when he is treated as one. They have kept him in the dark and they will keep doing it too and that will surely hurt Shaan. I mean if you keep someone in the dark and not let them see the light how will they know the difference between light and dark? I mean Shaan is not a 2 year old who needs to be held when crossing a road now. he is going to be like that if u keep doing it. This track is important because it will show how much his family's influence made him weak and in the upcoming track of leaving the house, it will play a crucial role.

3. I love, love Boo's dialogues. She was bang on when she told Akshay off for treating Shaan as a "doodh peeta hua bacha." She is right how they shouldn't treat him as one. Their treatment has majorly affected Shaan. She is right that how if they keep continuing that way Shaan will never learn to stand on his own and it will always haunt them because they will be the ones to be blamed. I think Boo will indirectly help Shaan and Akshay will support him in his dream when he leaves. Sunil of course will come around later after Shaan has made a name for himself. I just wonder where they will leave to...

4. This one is the hardest one to predict or talk bout. of course we know now how sunil will try to make Shaan come work for the company. I mean I understand Sunil's POV but then again they never really supported him like that and never really asked Shaan what he wanted so Shaan always ran away. Yes, as a father Sunil is worried and he should be but this is not a way to go. This is going to cause Shaan to move away and of course he will like we are seeing. So it could work in Sunil's favor or it can seriously bite him. It will bite him in the beginning but don't know if it will work in his favor. somehow I think it will work in both Shaan's and Sunil's favor but we are about to see a long track and I am ready for it! I hope it is strong enough tho!

5. OH this is going to be amazing! Shaan will do his best to prove his dad wrong. He will follow his dream with the help of Khanak and Akshay (I am sure that either Akshay will come to his rescue or Madz will) Sunil and boo seems to be negative on that front. I want Shaan to pursue his dream and prove to his dad that he can do it! Shaan needs to show for himself that he can do it! of course set backs are always there but in any dreams they are! I want his family to support him.I am sorry but Im from this century and my parents have told me to sought out my dreams so I firmly believe in that philosophy. beside with this ur mind is always set. even if financially ur not but ur mind is always in peace. u never blame others for ur own mistakes and that is the best thing in the world. It's better that way too.

Soo this epi has caused me to do my own analysis and I have to give it to KT for doing sooo many emotions in 2 days episodes!

He showed pure friendship, loving hubby, dejected/rejected son, and thoughtful and rejected and insecure individual. He was superb!

More of Yashu's great support was so commendable that my eyes were only for these two!

Jas was himself and full of jokes! Just like a great friend.

Aliraza portrayed amazing dad skills! Always great! I missed him!!!

Rushad: finally got him to act serious again! This guy is amazing!!!

Boo: Thank God for once her character actually said sensible stuff!! I loved her today!!!

Even Rushali: yesterday toh she was brilliant (i mean monday). She showed a great mom character and actually did the whole mom act great!

Although I loved each and every character this time around! Everyone was on top notch performance level albeit some editing and BD's but still everyone was superb!

Thank you guys!!

Sorry for a serious post but kya karun...i had to this time around.

Your take is welcome!

PS: I have no disrespect for mothers or fathers but this is just my personal experience of how I see family can influence kids and since I did my degree in child psych. I know how kids feel or see parents' attention or inattention as their strength or weakness.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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hey bagwan rooj...i second u yaar0...rue but sni badi post i toght ur busy ha😈
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Originally posted by: rooj-i



1. Shaan's responsibility- It is high time that Shaan is made to realize his responsibility not just towards his family and Khanak but towards himself too. So far he has no goal and he is home most of the time. music is a good business but it takes years to establish a name in it. It's not an overnight fame job unless u are really good or rich and famous to begin with or unless ur Miley Cyrus!😆 Waise I can give him pointers on how to establish his name!😆 I know a thing or two😉. Anyways back to the point. I am loving it how they used his friends to make him realize it, something that his parents should be doing. Khanak is his strength and support and she is doing marvelous job at it (Yashu is fab! Abs. fab! She stands out even as a support!). I loved it how they used indirect attempts to make him realize that how irresponsible he has been and only because no one bothered to tell them or his family kept him in dark thinking he was young and all. (if you ask me it is a complete BS. Im sorry no disrespect to parents but when you are treated as a prince and spoilt brat, you will turn out to be as one. Most of the time the credit goes to parents for that. now I understand what my mom used to mean when she always warned me that whatever you do, always think of your parents before doing something wrong because parents are the first one to be blamed).

ummm..abt dis thing, can i say, i sort of disagree wid u. C the thing is. every parent wants their child to get all the luxuries in life, no parents will like dem to struggle the same way as dey did. Sometimes, cng their children doing some mistakes, dey might scold them, same thing must have happened wid Shan even. But the thing is , actually wen our own relations, our parents point out our mistakes, we don bother to care for it, we think they are just being offended and scolding us for the time being and den dey will just forget everything later. But when the same thing is said , indirectly by oders, dat pierces our heart, becoz our mind stores dat as an insult, and the same thing has happened wid Shan even.

2. This is my favorite part of the track. Sunil's and Akshay's denial of involving Shaan in family issues or matters is wrong. They keep thinking that how Shaan is too young and immature. Of course he will be when he is treated as one. They have kept him in the dark and they will keep doing it too and that will surely hurt Shaan. I mean if you keep someone in the dark and not let them see the light how will they know the difference between light and dark? I mean Shaan is not a 2 year old who needs to be held when crossing a road now. he is going to be like that if u keep doing it. This track is important because it will show how much his family's influence made him weak and in the upcoming track of leaving the house, it will play a crucial role.

Now again, u are only saying ki he is not a two year old lad, so when he has already seen d news in the paper , he shld have been bothering abt dat, he just asked once and wen no1 told him nething, he simply went away and started thinking abt his own leisure. He could have had a separate talk wid his father. The main point is , he has no interest in Business, his only interest is in music

3. I love, love Boo's dialogues. She was bang on when she told Akshay off for treating Shaan as a "doodh peeta hua bacha." She is right how they shouldn't treat him as one. Their treatment has majorly affected Shaan. She is right that how if they keep continuing that way Shaan will never learn to stand on his own and it will always haunt them because they will be the ones to be blamed. I think Boo will indirectly help Shaan and Akshay will support him in his dream when he leaves. Sunil of course will come around later after Shaan has made a name for himself. I just wonder where they will leave to...

Dis toh , i agree wid u..even i loved Boo's dialogues, so apt for a wife and a sister in law.

4. This one is the hardest one to predict or talk bout. of course we know now how sunil will try to make Shaan come work for the company. I mean I understand Sunil's POV but then again they never really supported him like that and never really asked Shaan what he wanted so Shaan always ran away. Yes, as a father Sunil is worried and he should be but this is not a way to go. This is going to cause Shaan to move away and of course he will like we are seeing. So it could work in Sunil's favor or it can seriously bite him. It will bite him in the beginning but don't know if it will work in his favor. somehow I think it will work in both Shaan's and Sunil's favor but we are about to see a long track and I am ready for it! I hope it is strong enough tho!

ofcourse dear, they din asked him in d first place, just becoz of mere assumption and den Sunil din supported him, becoz normally wen u think of pursuing a career out of ur talent and passion, in most cases, there is some resistance from ne side, though it can be for a short time or more.
And now, Sunil is in a loss even as a businessman and as a father, so he might not be in a position to think dat much and hence may take d wrong step, forcing Shan to move away from d house, and tada, we get a cute and emotional Shanak track, living on their own, struggling wid life

5. OH this is going to be amazing! Shaan will do his best to prove his dad wrong. He will follow his dream with the help of Khanak and Akshay (I am sure that either Akshay will come to his rescue or Madz will) Sunil and boo seems to be negative on that front. I want Shaan to pursue his dream and prove to his dad that he can do it! Shaan needs to show for himself that he can do it! of course set backs are always there but in any dreams they are! I want his family to support him.I am sorry but Im from this century and my parents have told me to sought out my dreams so I firmly believe in that philosophy. beside with this ur mind is always set. even if financially ur not but ur mind is always in peace. u never blame others for ur own mistakes and that is the best thing in the world. It's better that way too.

Yess!! Even i can't wait to c how Shan stands on his feet and makes a name in the Music World .And dear, even in dis century, ur and my parents might support us for pursuing our dreams, but there are hundreds and thousands of oders, whose dreams don't get fulfilled, may be due to family pressure or may their parents think much better abt dem and dey do excell in d fields chosen by their parents.
@bold..i agree, but den, life is not so easy!!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well said rooj
as I said parents play major role in the kids life sometime kids are really unaware of the situations but parents make them understand but sometime they fail in doing that
sunil akshay khusboo they all are right but the way they are treating Shaan is wrong always they pampered him and all of a sudden they are being harsh is really hurtful for the kid
it's just my pov


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tora

Well said rooj
as I said parents play major role in the kids life sometime kids are really unaware of the situations but parents make them understand but sometime they fail in doing that
sunil akshay khusboo they all are right but the way they are treating Shaan is wrong always they pampered him and all of a sudden they are being harsh is really hurtful for the kid
it's just my pov



Thank you!!!

and yes that's what i mean! they always pampered him and all and then all of a sudden they expect so much from him that of course the guy will feel this way and his ego and moral would be down. he would need their support and if they don't show it then who would?

hence Khanak's support is going to come into play here! If she backs out then Shaan would def. break and won't be able to do anything!


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Haila inna lamba post? 😳 Wait till I read now! 😆 I like the heading though! 😆
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1)Yes I like the friend touch they gave it too! Many times in life our parents might keep telling us things, like Sunil keeps lecturing Shaan on his lack of responsibility, but it actually never makes as much of an impact as seeing our friends, who used to be at the same level as us in life, move on and achieved more than us. It makes us question ourselves and our abilities. Which is what is happening to Shaan now


2) Okay I am leaning both ways on this one.
Firstly, I agree that I was a little put off by Sunil and Akshay's replies when Shaan made an effort to pitch in with help
However at the same time I can't blame them. They gambled with him in the past-remember the cloth factory deal?-Sunil handed over such a big deal to a newbie not only because he was his son but because he believed in him.But what did Shaan do?He got the deal but then left it.He started looking for excuses to not go to office etc.
Now is it any fault of Sunil's that he is unwilling to involve Shaan especially now that even a little mistake might be their downfall?


3)While I loved what Boo said about Shaan not being able to grow up unless they treat him like one, putting it together with her dialogues yesterday, I also wondered whether her comments today rose from a little bit of resentment of the fact that Shaan gets to enjoy everything in life without lifting a finger while her own husband slaves away, ignoring her for long periods of time...?
I think exploring this will be interesting

4)Not commenting on this till I see what exactly is Sunil guilty of

5)Why does it have to be a battle between Shaan and Sunil?
I would like it if both worked through their differences.At the end of the day Sunil has always supported Shaan.He might have taken some time to come around, but come around he did.It was Shaan who kept on disappointing him.
So I want Shaan to work this out for himself, not only to prove something to his father but because he wants it.If he only does it all to prove a point, he will never get too far.



BTW loving Akshay in his cool businessman avatar! This man deserves so much more than to be just shown as a Yes baby, no baby joru ka ghulam!
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Originally posted by: -SYS-

1)Yes I like the friend touch they gave it too! Many times in life our parents might keep telling us things, like Sunil keeps lecturing Shaan on his lack of responsibility, but it actually never makes as much of an impact as seeing our friends, who used to be at the same level as us in life, move on and achieved more than us. It makes us question ourselves and our abilities. Which is what is happening to Shaan now


that's what i mean...we are told something from our parents and at times we don't listen to them (although i never used to till very late in life but I understand them now) and its how our friends are or how we see them that is when realization hits us that how wrong or right we are because we compare our friends and what not. (funnily i never did that with mine😆 i always thought of it as my fate😆)


2) Okay I am leaning both ways on this one.
Firstly, I agree that I was a little put off by Sunil and Akshay's replies when Shaan made an effort to pitch in with help
However at the same time I can't blame them. They gambled with him in the past-remember the cloth factory deal?-Sunil handed over such a big deal to a newbie not only because he was his son but because he believed in him.But what did Shaan do?He got the deal but then left it.He started looking for excuses to not go to office etc.
Now is it any fault of Sunil's that he is unwilling to involve Shaan especially now that even a little mistake might be their downfall?

but then again Namoona that was the only time he showed his responsibility and said no and only after the whole divorce fiasco too. I mean the guy didn't want to coz he wasn't into it in the first place. (rock on was a terrible idea on Shaan's character. it did "wonders" on him). But see he didn't complete the responsibility but he can do it. he showed that but in here they are saying he doesn't know how to do it. I mean they can take advice from him na? so why not?


3)While I loved what Boo said about Shaan not being able to grow up unless they treat him like one, putting it together with her dialogues yesterday, I also wondered whether her comments today rose from a little bit of resentment of the fact that Shaan gets to enjoy everything in life without lifting a finger while her own husband slaves away, ignoring her for long periods of time...?
I think exploring this will be interesting

I thought of that too but somehow her words were sharp as a nail and talked from a SIL POV. something told me she wasn't being resentful but was actually saying it as a sister. but hey it can be anything. I just loved her dialogues! whatever the intentions were the dialogues were apt and that's what I talked about!

4)Not commenting on this till I see what exactly is Sunil guilty of

lol well the articles say he will be manipulative and he has shown that in the past too about how he is not supportive of his son's music thing. so let's wait and watch. im not sure bout this one myself.

5)Why does it have to be a battle between Shaan and Sunil?
I would like it if both worked through their differences.At the end of the day Sunil has always supported Shaan.He might have taken some time to come around, but come around he did.It was Shaan who kept on disappointing him.
So I want Shaan to work this out for himself, not only to prove something to his father but because he wants it.If he only does it all to prove a point, he will never get too far.

finally we agree on this! lmao...I want it work both ways too! I hope it does...but either way I think this will be interesting to watch!


BTW loving Akshay in his cool businessman avatar! This man deserves so much more than to be just shown as a Yes baby, no baby joru ka ghulam!

OMG me too!!! waise it is Shaan who is always Joru ka ghulam and while Akshay works...but I love it!

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O Lord! 5 tracks and no khanak! soon khanak and the word 'support' would be synonymous! rofl!
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Originally posted by: zennn

O Lord! 5 tracks and no khanak! soon khanak and the word 'support' would be synonymous! rofl!


Agayi Khanak ki Amma!!!😆

Knew u wud come and reprimend me...coz of u i am questioned my loyalties about Shanak and yasharan on FB...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I shud put up a sign on my forehead that says: Yasharan/Shanak Nahi toh kuch nahi!

btw the reason I support this track is because after a long time we got such a good track and it's only been two days on it. everything i wrote is based on what i saw and felt and not coz of something that hasn't even hinted yet. I made a post on Paathshala once but u missed it! it's not my fault!😛 Also I liked this track because even I have struggled what Shaan has...I like independent people...so yea!😛

go read my post on Namoona's thread!!!


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