What's the payoff................

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............... OF ROYALLY TICKING OF YOUR LOYAL AUDIENCE AND WASTING YOUR POPULARITY CAPITAL WITH A DEMEANING MARITAL RAPE SCENE???????????


Where are they going with this????????


there has to be some reason for Kesar to be there other than to continue bigamy

bigamy isnot necessary for the sister hate track. Arushi would hate Prats even if the her marriage was legalized.

arushi is not going to have SR and kesar is going to remain around as the official badki bahu. why?

then they intentiionally show something that they knew would curl the audience's stomach and get instant protests like marital rape. why? though if you look at it every instance of Shakti Kesar consummation has been marital rape. he only sleeps with her when he is drunk and he behaves in exactly the same aggressive fashion. bigamy does not change the way he has sex with Kesar.

kesar's pregnancy is the only reason i can think of.

Since the infanticide, kesar and shakti never slept together. that was done on purpose becasue if they had then the pregnancy would have come about earlier and SS would never have left a second marriage happen. they don't love arushi because she is educated or well groomed or Shakti's choice. they see her as a baby making machine. bas. Which do you think they would rather have if they had a choice - a blueblooded thakur baby born out of Kesar-Shakti union or mixed breed born out of Shakti-Arushi marriage? I think the former.

also - pratigya's comment to arushi. if he leaves you tomorrow for another what will you do? you have no legal rights? why would shakti who desires her suddenly leave her? because SS would make him to do it if kesar got pregnant.

I wonder though:

what if Arushi and Shakti have SR. because Arushi though lucky the last few nights has not really been beating away now has she?

what if shakti and kesar both get pregnant and the thakurs must pick one because they don't know the sex of the baby? and it turns out after they throw out arushi that kesar has a girl and arushi has the boy? because right now Arushi is still distracted with prats becasue she is relying on SS and Amma's desire for a grandkid and Shakti's desire to preserve her rights as a wife. What if she lost that leverage when kesar got pregnant? Surely she will act selfishly and decisively to make sure her child's rights are preserved as the heir over kesar's and she will insist on kesar's divorce to legalize her on marriage before the child's birth.

wow, so much potential if played right.

what do you guys think?

Hope

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Posted: 15 years ago
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You have certainly shown a lot of possibilities....... Lets start with the second marraige fiasco.This relationship is illegal. In the eyes of law this marraige does not exist. Arushi has no rights of a wife. Although if she has a child ,the child will have some rights on the property which is made by Shakti himself.He or she will not have any right over SS's property. On the other hand if kesar has a baby ,that baby will be the rightful heir of SS's property.
In my pov if Kesar gets pregnant SS and Amma will drive Arushi out asap. They do not like Arushi ,they are only using her for selffish reasons.
Here is some info:
Bigamy i.e. second marriage during the lifetime of a first spouse is illegal in India. Second marriage and the relationship arising out of it do not have any validity. Section 5 of the Hindu Marriage Act, 1955, clearly states that a marriage could be valid only if neither of the party has a living spouse at the time of marriage. Section 11 of the Act declares second marriage to be null and void and she is not addressed as the man's wife ,but the second woman.
The law is very clear on second marriage. Given the case, the laws are very dicey for the second women and she is not much protected by law. The second woman is not entitled to any share in husband's property. The children of the second woman, however, are entitled to get a share in their father's self-acquired property. The second woman can claim interim maintenance from her husband.
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Hope🤗 my like button seems to give a problem but u know i liked it😃

This drama is not stopping at anything. They had been toying with the idea of marital rape since they K and P got married. They stopped Krishna as that would mean wasting their trump card so they moved the focus on shakti. Like u I have always thgt Shakti has always raped Kesar but the cvs made Kesar look like one of those women for whom physical relation is a duty they have to
perform for their husbands and have no say of their own. Today it looked like rape as she protested.


Hope remember i asked u about a week back whats the point of Kesar's existence but todays scenario gave a hint. This is the basis of future storyline. Kesar will get preggies and aarushi will be asked to leave the TN and shakti by the Thakurs and she won't be able to go to the law as Prats fear. Loads more masal coming up.

But today i was angry with Pratigyas decision to bring Kesar back into the house.

Edited by krishna_chalbo - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: anusarkar

You have certainly shown a lot of possibilities....... Lets start with the second marraige fiasco.This relationship is illegal. In the eyes of law this marraige does not exist. Arushi has no rights of a wife. Although if she has a child ,the child will have some rights on the property which is made by Shakti himself.He or she will not have any right over SS's property. On the other hand if kesar has a baby ,that baby will be the rightful heir of SS's property.

In my pov if Kesar gets pregnant SS and Amma will drive Arushi out asap. They do not like Arushi ,they are only using her for selffish reasons.



I totally agree with you here Anu

Arushi's marriage is illegal and any offspring will be illegitimate unless divorce from kesar happens

but I think legality from a marriage prospect or to secured the rights of the wife is not very important or high on the list of priorities for any of the couples in this show. I think the legitimacy is only important to them (if at all) when children and their inheritance is involved or the family tree/ geneology is involved.

we see constant references of this in SS and Amma's dialogues

if legalization was important for maintaining the wife's rights, don't you think they would have shown Adarsh and Krishna civially registering their marriages.

the courts only recognize marriages that are registered. society recognizes marriages that are performed in public rituals.

I am not saying that Krishna's marriage or Adarsh's marriage is illegal like Arushi's. All I am saying is that in the eyes of law none of these marriages are currently recognized as they are all ritualistic. However, the only difference is that when these three parties go to register their marriage and legitamize it only Arushi's marital status can be challenged.

Prats asked Arushi the question, yet what if tomorrow prats cant concieve and Krishna is forced to remarry. without court registration what proof or rights does prats have? no one from pratigya's side other than saxenas attended to witness the marriage. do you think thakurs will give witness if SS says no? I think not.

Anyways I am straying from the point. What I meant is that Arushi will not think clearly about legitamization as she is taking several things for granted:

a) kesar can never get pregnant
b) shakti will never leave her
c) Amma and SS have totally been bowled over by her youth, her ability to bear children and her education and of course her hatred for Prats

when all these are taken away, the ground under her feet will tremble and she will focus her attentions on her own rights rather than prats
Edited by stillhopeful - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Hope🤗 my like button seems to give a problem but u know i liked it😃

This drama is not stopping at anything. They had been toying with the idea of marital rape since they K and P got married. They stopped Krishna as that would mean wasting their trump card so they moved the focus on shakti. Like I have always thgt Shakti has always raped Kesar but the cvs made Kesar look like one of those women for whom physical relation is a duty they have to
perform for their husbands and have no say of their own. Today it looked like rape as she protested.


Hope remember i asked u about a week back whats the point of Kesar's existence but todays scenario gave a hint. This is the basis of future storyline. Kesar will get preggies and aarushi will be asked to leave the TN and shakti by the Thakurs and she won't be able to go to the law as Prats fear. Loads more masal coming up.

But today i was angry with Pratigyas decision to bring Kesar back into the house.




hon can you imagine the possibilities?

there was no witness. shakti was drunk

kesar would never report marital rape as she knows in the community she lives in justice chodo she will get taunts and death threats

so she keeps quiet

when it comes to light Shakti who knows that this will mean that Arushi has to go will say that Kesar lied

this will bring Kesar's baby's conception into question


prats will believe her. even Krishna might. though he may not interfere.

what then?

Arushi is not dumb. just distracted with her revenge

what if she gets scared -parents disowned me - society mocks me- without takhurs I am nothing

she decides to have sex willingly with Shakti on the condition he divorces kesar immediately.

he agrees. SS will not take care of a non-singh child and will rather suspect kesar than shakti. why will shakti sleep with kesar when arushi is who he wants? that will be his thinking

then kesar out. arushi in.

arushi gets pregnant. she has girl

kesar has boy.

SS finds out that Shakti is father

too late. he cannot get Kesar back. prats helps kesar somehow. may KP and kesar all leave with GD in tow.

they botched up Shyamji's trial so bad that I doubt they will show DNA testing or something to prove the paternity of Kesar's child.

they might use a blood test or some stupid nishan or something to prove paternity

what u think?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo



But today i was angry with Pratigyas decision to bring Kesar back into the house.



do you mean after the FIR and baby murder?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillhopeful



I totally agree with you here Anu

Arushi's marriage is illegal and any offspring will be illegitimate unless divorce from kesar happens

but I think legality from a marriage prospect or to secured the rights of the wife is not very important or high on the list of priorities for any of the couples in this show. I think the legitimacy is only important to them (if at all) when children and their inheritance is involved or the family tree/ geneology is involved.

we see constant references of this in SS and Amma's dialogues

if legalization was important for maintaining the wife's rights, don't you think they would have shown Adarsh and Krishna civially registering their marriages. {I agree with you completely in your pov. Thats why it is necessary to keep in mind that as a rule all marriages have to be compulsorily registered. Those who undertake a civil marriage (No formal marriage ceremony) marry under the Special Marriage Act, 1954, do not need to take any further steps because in their case registration is itself the marriage ceremony. But in the case of all religious/ceremonial marriages, and they are the majority in India, the additional step of getting the marriage registered with the registrar of marriages is compulsory.}


the courts only recognize marriages that are registered. society recognizes marriages that are performed in public rituals.

I am not saying that Krishna's marriage or Adarsh's marriage is illegal like Arushi's. All I am saying is that in the eyes of law none of these marriages are currently recognized as they are all ritualistic. However, the only difference is that when these three parties go to register their marriage and legitamize it only Arushi's marital status can be challenged.

Prats asked Arushi the question, yet what if tomorrow prats cant concieve and Krishna is forced to remarry. without court registration what proof or rights does prats have? no one from pratigya's side other than saxenas attended to witness the marriage. do you think thakurs will give witness if SS says no? I think not. ( Well, thats a whole new discussion.But I think Krishna would never choose to remarry even if Prats has a problem conceiving.)

Anyways I am straying from the point. What I meant is that Arushi will not think clearly about legitamization as she is taking several things for granted:

a) kesar can never get pregnant
b) shakti will never leave her
c) Amma and SS have totally been bowled over by her youth, her ability to bear children and her education and of course her hatred for Prats

when all these are taken away, the ground under her feet will tremble and she will focus her attentions on her own rights rather than prats

Thanks.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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In case kesar cries rape and finally gathers courage, with P's backing, of course, to file a complaint against KN, what is going to be Arushi's stand on this. will she then be forced to leave or like a dutiful wife wait outside 'central jail' for her better half to come out.

Arushi's POV is what I am watching out for.
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Hope Your outline sounds a little like the Other Bolyn Girl
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Posted: 15 years ago
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good post hope👏👏👏👏 just wanted arushi should know about this rape thing and the look on her face she was saying pratigya is jealous of her hmm my foot pratigyas husband is thousand times better than shati(not calling him her husband because i dont consider him one) btw with track i think pops wanted kesar to emerge as a strong women but i want her to take some step without pratigyas assistance i just can wish lets see what creatives have in store for us.at the same time i beleive that creatives wanted to clear this mess of s-a marriage and get back to original storyline but they are not finding ways😭
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