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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

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Posted: 15 years ago

#211

Di,I will PM on this topic. There can be no concurrence here anyways as our value systems are different.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#212

Originally posted by: SaffyFlower

Di,I will PM on this topic. There can be no concurrence here anyways as our value systems are different.

I agree . But u were often looking at this marraige with islamic perspective and I dont know much of Islam hence the questions . . I saw a Hindu marraige , a modified Hindu one mind u .............and initially I cud relate totally to it .............especially the Hindu arranged marraige part as thats how my sisters were married and I cud understand where Sulo was coming from . She had arranged this marraige , Archnas responsibility was on her and at that point Archna was not in love with Manav , she was obeying her parents wishes . Her qiuetly going away with her mom made TOTAL SENSE to me . I never criticized Archna then ...........ask Tanya , Fifs , niki , whoever .In fact , argued with full forum on her behalf ...coz just as full forum is against Shravni today .............full forum was against Archna then and on Manavs side . Sympathy flew to Manav . All I wanted to point out was my defences of Archna stopped when I stopped relating to her on all 3 levels .........religious , practical and emotional . yea go ahead and pm me , me too bowing out from this topic .

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#213

Frankly Di,I cannot relate to anything you have written as I cannot see how laws can be newly introduced,I can understand making existing laws contemporary.Entirely my POV

To me,if guys in urban cities like patna are kidnapped and made to marry @gunpoint,somewhere ppl r ignorant of the system. I never blame the system actually,as all are supposed to be of divine origin.

Lot to do with sex ratio skewed I think😆

So,I see dramabazee being copied from other shows here totally.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#214

Frankly Di,I cannot relate to anything you have written as I cannot see how laws can be newly introduced,I can understand making existing laws contemporary.Entirely my POV

That is subjective . I believe all religions modify over a period of time ......... my POV .

Neither can i relate when u suddenly bring in Islamic laws to prove how religiously wrong Shravni is but never apply it to ARMAn's actions of destroying marraige when their religion , hInduism doesnt recognize their REASONING for the divorce . . I had asked u a question .............what does Islam say when a couple consent to divorce mutually and seperate .Thats what ARMAN did . I wanted to know the answer to that so my info bank wud be enhanced .😊 I didnt get that answer I believe .If I missed it , correct me by all means .

. Once again , I had asked those questions to understand , not to critique .

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#215

By the way Saffy what do u feel of Manav not asking Archnas permission before putting sindoor this time ? Dont u feel Archu desrves that respect ? Especially since He threw her out the first time ? Isnt it important to know the womans wish ?GM ?

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#216

Actually Di,interestingly divorce for whatever reason,is not chastised with a punishment.It is considered most disliked act though in absolute terms.

New rules also not permitted,existing rules can be made contemporary.For example,gay/lesbian marriage,wud be a new rule,cannot be introduced.This is bcoz all existing rules are considered already divinely sent,so no more new divinity to be sighted😆

But acts like physical adultery,disobedience,shrew,irresponsibility in providing or taking care of kids etc.such individual deeds that violate the rights of the spouse are only chastised with punishment.

Lookslike right and wrong hence are treated in absolute terms as all the detailed rules are considered to have cover all possible scenarios,while repentance entails mercy.

The directives given are to the ppl surrounding the couple in question,is that they shud encourage reconciliation during the 3 month period and may incur punishment for doing the reverse,here the details of the circumstance do influence whether supporting the divorce is right or wrong,but I wont say it emphatically.

I had given an example earlier that a woman asks for divorce stating she is v beautiful and the hubby v ugly.No chastisement was given,but she had to go thru the 3 month rule,for a shot @reconciliation.Even if 1 spouse wants divorce after that,the other cannot deny any longer.Being mutual or not is overridden,bcoz the interpreted wisdom(by scholars) here is that even if 1 spouse is not content,they might do severe vices like adultery etc.Society breaks down etc.

I think as per our Indian legal system,incompatability will be taken as the reason if 1 spouse does not oblige,and the other still wants.I have to cross verify that legal part,am not sure.

I think we shud do this thru PM if you are still interested in the rules.I am hesitant that others may not like such a conversation on a public forum.😊

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#217

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
By the way Saffy what do u feel of Manav not asking Archnas permission before putting sindoor this time ? Dont u feel Archu desrves that respect ? Especially since He threw her out the first time ? Isnt it important to know the womans wish ?GM ?

Di,no coercion is allowed.When the woman is asked -'do u take this man as husband' - that is her time to say qubool or not.Her wish is seeked specifically,if somebody tries to coerce a certain response @that point,I have read that it nullifies the marriage.

Yes Archu and every woman deserves the respect of not being coerced,and the same holds for men too.And they should exercise their right to say No.If they say Yes,she/he has still exercised her/his right to decide what is in their own best interest.

Parents are meant for guidance,dont wanna ignore them really!

I can see where you are going with these questions😆Archu falling @Manav's feet😆😆🤣