What will it take? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Relda

Krishna's much-vaunted portrayal as a devoted and selfless lover's days seem to be coming to an end. All good things must come to an end But I am wondering on how the CV's are going to depict Krishna's character outside the bubble his single-minded pursuit to gain Pratigya's love. I have found Krishna to be s singularly one-dimensional character, outside his easy charm and sharp wit, and perceived best through the lens of an amourous young man with only romance in his mind. But, since we are not watching Blue Lagoon with Brook Shields and her beau's coupled development away from all arms of society, I find Krishna to be seriously deficient in all his other relationships to the point of appearing as boorish, callous or simply clueless.

I hope with the current turn of events, the CV's show the devolution of Krishna's character as a more well-rounded and balanced one, outside of the one-point agenda of being a lover boy. If that means temporary disagreements between Kriya I wouldn't mind/

Originally posted by: Relda

He sees every other male in his orbit having an outside calling which they fulfill to obtain financial remuneration - his father-in-law, brother-in-law, brother and even then he never questions that there is something wrong in this picture that all he ever does is lounge about idly and play love games with his wife? He is shown to have a sharp mind and strong moral timbre and so this inexplicable lacuna in his character whereby he needs to be gently spoon-fed the concept of work and earning a living is not very palatable to me. I just hope they do not stretch this lighting-of-a-lightbulb scenario for too long. Otherwise I will have to conclude that his mental age did not keep pace with his physical groW*H. There is a medical term for that.

Hi Soapbubble.

I am supposed to be studying for tests tomorrow but here I am baying at the moon, trying to analyze a fictional character on TV. Escapism at its very best.

Coming back to my post about Krishna's stunted relationships, my only objective was to highlight the fact that there has been zero groW*H in Krishna's character delineament. His is what I would call an Avoidant personality, afraid to face life's realities and confront adversities head-on. The whole Kesar fiasco was a big, bitter let-down for me. I would have expected him to show some burgeoning signs of humanity and compassion for a battered, female family member, even if he was not ready to take legal steps against his own mom and brother. Why isn't the self-realization part of Krishna shown to be a voluntary exercise of self-discovery, rather than being hammered by all and sundry? Why is he still clinging to violence as a last resort to quell ugly truths?

Pratigya has come a long way from a vengeful, angry woman being married against her will to a loving, giving young wife but still attached to her ideals and principles. But Baba started of as a love-sick young man and is still restricted to the same role without being developed as a character which is straining against the leashes of social and familial impositions and transforming himself incrementally into a principled, upright, disciplined character - as we were told to expect.

I am not even going to comment on the precap until I see the show.

Originally posted by: Madmadgirl

Gotta say guys, fantastic posts!👏 - 'specially Dyehard and Relda - superbly said the things I have been thinking for days...😊

As I watch this show, I am reminded of the same situation in real life that is too close for comfort at times.

In that scenario, boy (like Krishna) was busy falling in love with someone who had no idea, like Pratigya. Eventually when boy told girl, girl (unlike Pratigya had a say in the matter) however initially turned down the boy.

Boy however (like Krishna) didnt give up and persisted and eventually girl decided to give it a go. Boy married girl and girl assumed that as boy had been so determined to have her she would forever bask in his love (bear with me.....I know I digress from the comparisons!😆)

In come the inlaws ( here we go - back on track!)🤢

In boy's absence in-laws made girl's life hell (who does THIS remind you of?🤔) Girl's intelligence, education and qualities were rubbished by in-laws who just wanted a bahu who would sew and cook..(need I say more.....Amma et al personified??😡)

Girl suffered but boy never did anything cause he never saw what girl saw and was never there when in-laws did what they did, and essentially couldnt believe parents could be so awful. On the occasions he would try and say anything, his parents would twist it and make girl look sub-standard and unsuitable, unlike the other DIL whom THEY had chose!😔

Girl Boy have loads of tensions, but amidst all this would kiss and make up, waiting for a better day.😳🤗........however it never really came coz in-laws made daily life utterly miserable, no matter how hard girl tried.😭

Love is still there, but is diminishing, tensions grow by the day until a calamity heppens. A crux point is reached between girl and inlaws and girl looks towards boy for support - he fails and she is crushed not just for then for many years.....😭😭😭

Pratigya is also coming to this point and to be honest I also expect Krishna to fail. That is because what is being asked of him is simply too much for his head to deal with.

But when I say fail I only mean for NOW. Krishna's character is such that eventually he will have the strength to swallow the bitter pill and admit his simple analogy of "I love her, I love them so they will love her too" doesnt work and that he is going to have to stand not with his family but with Pratigya with whom he made promises to stay for more than seven lifetimes.

Krishna, just like my husband, will reach a point at which he knows he has to leave - it just wont necessarily be at the same point as Pratigya. The difference between Pratigya and me is that I would never imagine Pratigya enduring as much before she takes a stand and says enough is enough.

Marrying for love is never easy - love has a way of fooling you into believing it'll all work out bu itself. However it is nurturing, caring, respecting and protecting that love that makes it truly stand the test of time.

Krishna has a lot of evolving to do....thank God he's fictional!!!!!!

Oh and by the way, the ending will be entirely happy, of that I am sure, just like mine!😃

Originally posted by: soapbubble

Dyehard,

This is an excellent post!

You have asked, very rightly, the questions we, as lovers of Krishna, want to know. Where are the CVs going with this character? It was about now that we expected this man to come into his own ' what is stopping him from growing into the man he promised to be, why has he (horrors!) slid back?

Krishna will be redeemed ultimately ' this reassures us in this current depressing state. But when? How? These are very important questions ' the timing of these events is very significant. This is not a Kekta serial. It is not enough for us to know that 'In The End', Krishna will be a great man. If he lets Kesar go without fighting for her ' some spark has already died.

When Kesar was beaten, abused and made to miscarry we asked that Krishna react, that Krishna support her ' NOT because Pratigya did so, but for Kesar's sake, for the sake of humanity, for the sake of his own soul and conscience. His stance then was ambiguous and we thought ' ok, he's being primed. He will react more unequivocally the next time. Instead, he has taken a step backward!

Why is Krishna bullying his wife? Is he trying to ingratiate himself with his parents so that he can buy more time in his efforts to become an independent householder? This idea has not been sprung on him ' his parents' ill treatment of Pratigya has been one long escalating spiral. Krishna has had a lot of time to THINK about starting afresh. He should have thought of it the first time they were homeless for a few days. What exactly is he waiting for? This is not in keeping with the robust man of action we were led to think he was. In wanting to postpone taking an action, is he willing to defang Pratigya, render her as vulnerable as he himself is feeling? 😲😲

Krishna is in danger of losing his wife's respect, and ours. 😭

Bubble

Originally posted by: Relda

Hi Soapbubble.

I am supposed to be studying for tests tomorrow but here I am baying at the moon, trying to analyze a fictional character on TV. Escapism at its very best.

Coming back to my post about Krishna's stunted relationships, my only objective was to highlight the fact that there has been zero groW*H in Krishna's character delineament. His is what I would call an Avoidant personality, afraid to face life's realities and confront adversities head-on. The whole Kesar fiasco was a big, bitter let-down for me. I would have expected him to show some burgeoning signs of humanity and compassion for a battered, female family member, even if he was not ready to take legal steps against his own mom and brother. Why isn't the self-realization part of Krishna shown to be a voluntary exercise of self-discovery, rather than being hammered by all and sundry? Why is he still clinging to violence as a last resort to quell ugly truths?

Pratigya has come a long way from a vengeful, angry woman being married against her will to a loving, giving young wife but still attached to her ideals and principles. But Baba started of as a love-sick young man and is still restricted to the same role without being developed as a character which is straining against the leashes of social and familial impositions and transforming himself incrementally into a principled, upright, disciplined character - as we were told to expect.

Maybe I am expecting too much too soon and maybe the lovey-dovey scenes are the tour-de-force of this serial. For me, I'd rather watch something like Dil Mil Gaye if I wanted to see unfettered love day in and day out. In a serial like Pratigya romantic scenes should be used as complementary elements rather than a fundamental main-stay.

I am not even going to comment on the precap until I see the show.

Originally posted by: Dyehard

Relda! so good to see you again! And boy! you don't mince words do you?😆 Hard-hitting, but necessary. 😃

And I absolutely am with you when you ask "But I am wondering on how the CV's are going to depict Krishna's character outside the bubble his single-minded pursuit to gain Pratigya's love" because it is a question that troubles me equally.😕

What is Krishna apart from his ability to pursue love single-mindedly? What happens to this love once he has earned its reciprocity. Was Pratigya's guts and strong-mindedness only attractive to him becasue he viewed them as challenges to be overcome or conquered? Or is there a genuine respect for her real nature and spirit in him? In the final analysis will he try to conquer this spirit or be the wind beneath its wings?

I don't particularly care about Krishna's virtue as a son. That is a dog-eat-dog world. And good for him if he attempts to be top-dog, as long as he realises that there are other more civilised life-forms wher other rules apply!😛😃

He did not think things through it is true when he married, but great forethought is not exactly his forte. But I hope this lack of planning is at least compensated by a lazer-sharp instinct of what is right and required and the guts to go through with the inevitable. But if now it turns out that not having thought things through, he also does not have the guts to deal with the fall-out, then it will be highly disappointing. (I don't personally think this will happen! I am just reacting to the immediate future and disappointment that he is acting like a petulant brat who has been made to work harder than he had bargained😡.)

I don't think it will happen simply because, Krishna is the agent of change in this show. With his many vacillations, vacillate the sentiments of the viewers. In his redemption, their redemption. You have only to see how closely aligned to his state-of-mind this forum is, to see that only in his change will they allow their own mind-set to change. If Krishna says tomorrow, that Pratigya is right in holding her own, that a woman has the right to her own ideals independent of her husband's interests or needs, then perhaps people will start to believe it themselves. Pratigya as a character is so far above the average person, in her kindness, courage, and righteousness that anything she says will carry little more than dramatic weight. You must see how people cringe when they think they are being imparted a moral lesson? It is in Krishna's change that any real impact on the average viewer is possible. That is the reason the always keep him slightly below par, before they elevate him! It is Krishna and not Pratigya who is the vehicle for their ideologies, the shoulder from where they are firing! I read just yesterday in a column by a filmmaker this quote and thought it highly sound logic in writing characters for screenplay. "It is only the person who is most like us that can rise above us"

But, even knowing all this, we as involved passionate viewer will still feel compelled to protest daily inequities. Ka karien, control nahi hota!😃