Mahaepi and Mahafriendship - Is it just Me?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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The Mahaepisode

What was the reason for this? To progress the storyline? Well if so it seems to have been ineffective at best and unnecessary at worst.

The storyline seems no further along (in a significant manner) after the mahaepi than it was last week.

  • Komal is still a terror,
  • Adarsh is still harassed,
  • SS and Guruma are still fuming,
  • Krishna is still baffled and uncommitted to the Friendship thing,
  • Pratigya is still hot-cold on being friends with Krishna, uncomfortable at his most innocent of overtures and suspicious of her sudden popularity with the Singhs,
  • Amma is still frustrated, vengeful and plotting,
  • Saxenas are still unhappy and collectively stressed over Angad's existence,
  • Angad and goons are still unfazed by the repeated "kands" and "prasads" that they receive and plotting new plan,
  • and yes Pratigya has still not told the truth about the kidnapping to Krishna.
  • Even the bike scene was neither here nor there, for me. It did not bring them any closer and was not really romantic as the only reason she gingerly touched him for support is because he insisted (as always) and it was a safety thing.


So let's examine the TRUE progress that the mahaepi achieved.

  • SS got a ticket and Angad has gone on a painful retreat.


Both scenes I guess giving Kriya a brief respite. Very, very brief I am sure.

So is it just me or could the two minor events i.e. SS ticket and Angad the Cliffhanger not have been possible to cover in a regular epi? Did we even need a whole one hour mahaepi?


Things I liked or found funny about this Maha-Time Pass Epi:

  • Krishna appearing to read a magazine at the party office. Considering he is illiterate he must have been checking out the pictures like a five year old at the dentist's office.
  • Prof's advice to a distraught Pratigya about their involvement in SS ticket ' this is life, relationships are used this way as aces and levers to bring success to families and do not give it a second thought. Very very pragmatic. Kudos to the prof.
  • The way Angad immediately deduced that Pratigya was holding back from Krishna and that Krishna is far from the confidante or involved husband that he wants to think he is.
  • Their first real date and he brings her to the only place that he thinks she might enjoy ' the gol gappa stand.
  • The "parade" comment by Krishna.

NOTE TO CREATIVES - THE "FRIENDSHIP" TRACK:

Your storyline seems to be stagnating. Not sure how far progressed the friendship track is but it seems to be having limited effect on the progression of the Kriya marriage/ relationship and is lacklustre at best and bland and un-contentious at worst?

Pooja Gaur is a beautiful and seemingly talented actress and the Pratigya character has the potential of being a caring wife, a truly valuable asset to the Singhs and an even more powerful figure than Guruma in the grand scheme of things.

Yet the character is not being allowed to develop past her fear and suspicion of Krishna, marital consummation and the Angad shadow. For how long will we be seeing a predominately terrified, sad, unhappy, suspicious and paranoid lead lady? Don't you think this constant state of nerves and unhappiness that your leading ladyis portraying (because seriously we can count the number of times she has been allowed to smile in this show on two hands) is a waste of the character potential, an underutilization of an actor's talent and a storyline that uses different track approaches to end up with the SAME CONSEQUENCE?

We understand Krishna is being shown to undergo a transformation in order to win Pratigya's love but does he have to be depicted as a trainee pet in order to achieve this love or a desired effect? Don't you think this is messing with the "Krishna" brand that was the reason so many of the character's fans got engaged in your serial to begin with?

What do you guys think?

  1. Was the mahaepi needed?
  2. Does what you have seen in the "friendship" track to date shown any significant progress for Kriya or are we just beating around the same bush first clockwise and then counter-clockwise with little result?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi Hope!

First to post a reply ....................Very good points made in your post.

I feel the current friendship build up is dull and the spark between Krishna and Prats that was evident during their early days of marriage is sorely missing. Does showing the friendship angle mean the chemistry has to disappear? Even Krishna's delivery seemed rushed at times during their convo. about friendships. I am not sure if they have a new director, but except for Angad's bits on mahaepisode which included some painfully dramatic moments with Prof. and Adarsh, the rest of the episode turned out to be maha bore. The Kesar pregnancy hour seemed more entertaining and action packed.

The creators are making me wish Krishna and Prats have more of an adversarial relationship than a friendship one. At least there was more chemistry evident then and the tension between them was something that came off the screen. That motorcycle segment was so not needed. Maybe it's the scenes themselves. Was it necessary for Krishna to forget about his beebi on the bike and their alone time and focus on Angad and his pals with black and blue marks outside the jail? Granted they had to show them interacting but that scene made the friendship/alone time seemed inconsequencial.

Personally, was disappointed with this maha episode and will give it a C- grade.
Edited by MERARAI - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

Hi Hope!

First to post a reply ....................Very good points made in your post.

I feel the current friendship build up is dull and the spark between Krishna and Prats that was evident during their early days of marriage is sorely missing. Does showing the friendship angle mean the chemistry has to disappear? Even Krishna's delivery seemed rushed at times during their convo. about friendships. I am not sure if they have a new director, but except for Angad's bits on mahaepisode which included some painfully dramatic moments with Prof. and Adarsh, the rest of the episode turned out to be maha bore. The Kesar pregnancy hour seemed more entertaining and action packed.

The creators are making me wish Krishna and Prats have more of an adversarial relationship than a friendship one. At least there was more chemistry evident then and the tension between them was something that came off the screen. That motorcycle segment was so not needed. Maybe it's the scenes themselves. Was it necessary for Krishna to forget about his beebi on the bike and their alone time and focus on Angad and his pals with black and blue marks outside the jail? Granted they had to show them interacting but that scene made the friendship/alone time seemed inconsequencial.

Personally, was disappointed with this maha episode and will give it a C- grade.




Mera:

totally agreed hon.

the last few days have been disappointing to me. This feels like a high school relationship rather than a relationship between two adults at a sexually peaked age. even high schoolers seem to show more hormonic interaction.

I understand Pratigya's need to have some time to adjust to the new relationship dynamic (without the hate factor and especially considering that Krishna is being so accomodating) but like last week, they had the blanket scee. yes he was close but HE WAS SLEEPING AND NOT TOUCHING HER. So I did not understand her night terror????? seemed illogical to me

leads me to question what the PURPOSE of the "friendship" track is? Is it for time pass or is it to progress their relationship and the storyline to the next stage?

if it is the latter then how can they show the kind of paranoia, restlessness and detachment in Pratigya that they are?

ok one moment she tells him come on the bed and prior to that she is talking to him in a very good faith manner and very effortlessly which is not only a positive thing but VERY REALISTIC BEHAVIOUR for someone who genuinely wants to try out the friendship angle that THEY THEMSELVES have proposed. next minute she is acting like his every move is a precursor to molestation?????????.

Seems they show su takign 2 paces forward to maintain our interest and in the very next step she takes 3 paces back and we are back were started with a lead lady who depicts misery rather than a second chance
Edited by stillhopeful - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I feel the current friendship build up is dull and the spark between Krishna and Prats that was evident during their early days of marriage is sorely missing. Does showing the friendship angle mean the chemistry has to disappear?I don;t think their chemistry is disappearing. i think they r slowly try to understand each other. If u have noticed now krishna listens what pratigya has to say and she also give krishna time to talk and listens to him. before it was like he will walk away or she will have a cold attitude. it will slowly develop in to love.pratigya will take time. The Kesar pregnancy hour seemed more entertaining and action packed.Ya the kesar pregnancy hour seemed more entertaining and action packed. this maha episode was very very bore. I think for the sake of maha epiosode they showed. nothing much was there. it was a huge disappointment. i totally agree with u on this.
The creators are making me wish Krishna and Prats have more of an adversarial relationship than a friendship one. At least there was more chemistry evident then and the tension between them was something that came off the screen. That motorcycle segment was so not needed. ya i also wondered why they show that. Maybe it's the scenes themselves. Was it necessary for Krishna to forget about his beebi on the bike and their alone time and focus on Angad and his pals with black and blue marks outside the jail? ya that is true why krishna has to go talk to that guy. he got some time and he wasted that.he already knows pratigya doesn;t like him. Instead they might have showed him taking her to eat and sharing their food or busying something for her like that. Granted they had to show them interacting but that scene made the friendship/alone time seemed inconsequencial.

leads me to question what the PURPOSE of the "friendship" track is? Is it for time pass or is it to progress their relationship and the storyline to the next stage?I think it is for the next stage of story line probably this friendship will lead to love in pratigya's heart. She will understand krishna more.

ok one moment she tells him come on the bed and prior to that she is talking to him in a very good faith manner and very effortlessly which is not only a positive thing but VERY REALISTIC BEHAVIOUR for someone who genuinely wants to try out the friendship angle that THEY THEMSELVES have proposed. next minute she is acting like his every move is a precursor to molestation?????????.

Seems they show su takign 2 paces forward to maintain our interest and in the very next step she takes 3 paces back and we are back were started with a lead lady who depicts misery rather than a second chance.that is one thing which confused me in this drama not even pratigya all the characters have 2 paces one time they say something and next time they don;t contradict one. i don;t know why the cv are doing like this., It is krishna who does often , then pratigya. i have seen most of the characters they say something and do something different. Now itself see pratigya stands up for truth,respect and all.but she is hiding the kidnapping thing from krishna so what is teh strength of that character they r changing according to their convenience and they she is strong and bold. Until now she is listening to all the things others are saying and she don;t have a stand. i have tht. it is drama i know but they have to show atleast a small amount.it always happens when kriya take 2 step forwards then next week they go back like 1000 steps. i don;t get it.


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Hope Mogga

They have reached a stalemate and r floundering on how to progress .I dont care if TRPS show it is no 1 but Pratigya in my opinion is at its most BORING currently.
They handled Angad ALL WRONG . The wonderful Angad music and his Iago shrewd brain could have been used to show a very intelligent plot but they showed something so stupid , filmy and juvenile that I almost LOST interest in the track . Angad is as important to this show as Krishna and Pratigya and using him like this is idiotic . Such a brainy man , he goes and
Confides he kidnapped Pratigya to Prof and risks his life
Demands a measly sum of 5 lacs only
Again calls Prof like this , risking a jail sentence instead of approaching Krishna alone
JUST DOESN"T JELL .
The Kriya Ride : As uninteresting as the Dosti Dosti game played in the bedroom everynight . Chalo , hum na Dosti Dosti khelenge ha. Let us work on Dosti Buniyaads . { Where ? In the bedroom .As the illiterate husband looks on , zapped , each night , wondering whats NEXT on Teacher's agenda , we viewers YAWN . We all know that Teacher will sleep with a chaddar upto her chin with her back to him after giving the Dosti Lecture and reprimanding him for being out of line ..........{ the latest being that even LOOKING AT A WIFE WITHOUT TOUCHING IS A CARDINAL SIN AS IT IS THE THOUGHT THAT COUNTS}. Just when I wonder if at least today Krishna will ask her if she is interested in joining the Hindu nunnery that churns out sadhvis and that he won't mind releasing her for a religious purpose , he buckles down and starts acting like a wuss .....an illiterate Raymond from Everybody Loves Raymond . } Wuss Behaviour pleases Madam immensely . She then tells him graciously he has been pardoned and pulls up the chaddar to her chin and sleeps with her BACK to him .
I wonder when Madam will stop playing Teacher Teacher or Dosti Dosti and be a real woman at least for a second in this serial . Her prim and Propah expressions and patronising treatment of Krishna
rile viewers like me . The wonderful chiffon like zari saris and open hair baffle me. Her constant slaps to Gundas make me raise my eyebrows and I wonder where the story and her agendas r headed to as they never have a definete goal . Be it a Hate Agenda or Dosti Agenda ........the goal is never quite there . What Madam needs is a book on facts of life .
Sajjan Singhs insults to his own family and flattery of Pratigya sound crudely childish .SS was initially shown as illiterate but ASTUTE. SS and Angad were INTELLIGENT . And so , a TREAT . Alas , they have been reduced to JOKERS.
Krishna has been made into a WUSS ., I dont understand why the hell he should not have his own unbending stances on allowing every other thing but not being able to see a man shaking his wifes hand as he is a rustic Indian at heart and will stay so , irrespective whether his wife likes it or not . I mean WHY the hell shud he sit , stand and pee at Pratigyas directions and why the hell shud only THIS scenario be considered as the best marraige .
The most astounding , shocking , and jocular character is the Prof . He says one thing in one episide and does exactly ultaa in the other .In One episode he holds Angad firmly with masculine strength and in the other he runs to the cliff to meet him , looking as if he wants to pee badly . The CVs have taken away credibility from this character .
Komal is sadly wasted like Shakti . She is used to do real rude , spoilt tantrums , and not to rip the Saxenas off by reading out their hypocrisy in a convincing way .
I felt unmoved by the Mahaepisode .
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Hope Mogga

They have reached a stalemate and r floundering on how to progress 👏👏👏👏👏👏.I dont care if TRPS show it is no 1 but Pratigya in my opinion is at its most BORING currently.
They handled Angad ALL WRONG . 👏👏👏👏👏 JUST DOESN"T JELL .

I wonder when Madam will stop playing Teacher Teacher or Dosti Dosti and be a real woman at least for a second in this serial . 👏👏👏👏
SS was initially shown as illiterate but ASTUTE. SS and Angad were INTELLIGENT . And so , a TREAT . Alas , they have been reduced to JOKERS.👏👏👏👏
Krishna has been made into a WUSS 😭😭😭., \

I felt unmoved by the Mahaepisode .đŸ¤ĸ



Kool Mogga:

If they want the friendship track to be a REALISTIC RELATIONSHIP BUILDER they need to show MORE GOOD FAITH on kriya's part.

Krishna was shown as somebody who loved his family, ribbed them as the younger more indulged son but always respected his father. the constant disrespect that the new and improved Krishna character is showing to his most beloved parent SS in the name of gaining brownie points with his wife is very distasteful.

I agree Krishna needed to be handled carefully in this track. This is 180 role reversal is saturating the brand.

Krishna has always been considerate and friendly in his overtures towards Pratigya. the friendliness was one sided. to make this track interesting they DID NOT need to make krishna more friendly they needed to get pratigya to acknowledge, appreciate and reciprocate his overtures.

Instead what I have seen so far is that Pratigya drew a friendship circle and Krishna stepped in hesitatingly and everytime he plays ball the other party gets all apprehensive and paranoid and starts stepping outside the circle.

I know that people who love the Pratigya character are going to think that I am biased and maybe I am but end of day I am here to see a bold Krishna and a maturing Kriya. i am getting neither. I feel that Kriya is in a constant spin cylce and will never get ready to move to the dryer.


So the blanket scene, did you think her reaction to his action and his subsequent explanation was in the least bit realistic?

What about the fear at hearing about how Krishna was mad at Angad and Nitin's involvement with her? was her reaction realistic considering she already knew all of this?

her reaction to being expected/asked to support her father-in-law at the party office? her distraught reaction? was that realistic? if she married Nitin don't you think she would have had to act the society wife and support her husband in any kind of hospitality occasions? Just because Nitin's family was not into politics did not mean that business support would not have been expected from an educated DIL.


I don't understand why they are taking a character with such STRONG potential and showing her to be wilful, amateurish, self absorbed and reactive
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Kool Mogga:

If they want the friendship track to be a REALISTIC RELATIONSHIP BUILDER they need to show MORE GOOD FAITH on kriya's part.

Krishna was shown as somebody who loved his family, ribbed them as the younger more indulged son but always respected his father. the constant disrespect that the new and improved Krishna character is showing to his most beloved parent SS in the name of gaining brownie points with his wife is very distasteful. Indeed it is . I don't like Krishna as a son at all . Fantastic as a passionate lover , horrible as a son . Wuss like as a husband . No credibility or self respect given to this character .

I agree Krishna needed to be handled carefully in this track. This is 180 role reversal is saturating the brand.

Krishna has always been considerate and friendly in his overtures towards Pratigya. the friendliness was one sided. to make this track interesting they DID NOT need to make krishna more friendly they needed to get pratigya to acknowledge, appreciate and reciprocate his overtures. Exactly .But they dont show Pratigya changing , only Krishna changing . This was HER chance to change and bloom as a woman . Alas .The bedroom scenes , the bike rides r so boring yaar .

Instead what I have seen so far is that Pratigya drew a friendship circle and Krishna stepped in hesitatingly and everytime he plays ball the other party gets all apprehensive and paranoid and starts stepping outside the circle. Clearly it is , listen to me or sleep on the sofa. If u dont listen to be u will be demoted to the sofa , if u listen u will be atleast allowed on the bed .

I know that people who love the Pratigya character are going to think that I am biased and maybe I am but end of day I am here to see a bold Krishna and a maturing Kriya. i am getting neither. I feel that Kriya is in a constant spin cylce and will never get ready to move to the dryer.


So the blanket scene, did you think her reaction to his action and his subsequent explanation was in the least bit realistic? No , not at all . They cud have shown her eyes resting on his face , taking in all what she saw , feeling secretly shy or thrilled by the proximity , wondering about his action and NOT deciding to move away .See , this way , still no touching wud be shown yet a lot of passion cud have been conveyed .But she just got up and started her lectures . She came across as a frigid woman .

What about the fear at hearing about how Krishna was mad at Angad and Nitin's involvement with her? was her reaction realistic considering she already knew all of this?Not just that , inspite of seeing how he had almost thrashed the foreigner in the hotel for shaking her hand , she still tells him gleefully about mystery person MITHILESH . I dont care if it turns out to be a gal , it only confirms my belief that Pratigya sometimes seems not to have a brain AT ALL .

her reaction to being expected/asked to support her father-in-law at the party office? her distraught reaction? was that realistic? if she married Nitin don't you think she would have had to act the society wife and support her husband in any kind of hospitality occasions? Just because Nitin's family was not into politics did not mean that business support would not have been expected from an educated DIL.Of course it wud have . And thats why I asked , if Jagmohans wife wud have kept quite after watching her playing Dosti Dosti with Nitin for a year or so . Frankly I dunno what she expects from this marraige .....all the time she is apologising to her Dad on behalf of her sasur or Krishna as if her sophisticated family has been forced to dine with tribals.


I don't understand why they are taking a character with such STRONG potential and showing her to be wilful, amateurish, self absorbed and reactiveThats exactly what she is Hope . Wilful , immature , self absorbed [ extremely] and very reactive . Also , she has no introspective qualities and never introspects her own actions or takes responsibility for them .

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But they dont show Pratigya changing , only Krishna changing . This was HER chance to change and bloom as a woman .👏👏👏👏👏👏 Alas .The bedroom scenes , the bike rides r so boring yaar .

Clearly it is , listen to me or sleep on the sofa. If u dont listen to be u will be demoted to the sofa , if u listen u will be atleast allowed on the bed .😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

So the blanket scene, did you think her reaction to his action and his subsequent explanation was in the least bit realistic? No , not at all . They cud have shown her eyes resting on his face , taking in all what she saw , feeling secretly shy or thrilled by the proximity , wondering about his action and NOT deciding to move away .See , this way , still no touching wud be shown yet a lot of passion cud have been conveyed .But she just got up and started her lectures . She came across as a frigid woman .OMG Kool, you stole the thought right out of my mind. I was just about to come and answer by own question but expressed the exact same thought so eloquently. and it is this reaction of hers that makes me constantly question - what is the purpose of this track? I am baffled

What about the fear at hearing about how Krishna was mad at Angad and Nitin's involvement with her? was her reaction realistic considering she already knew all of this?Not just that , inspite of seeing how he had almost thrashed the foreigner in the hotel for shaking her hand , she still tells him gleefully about mystery person MITHILESH . I dont care if it turns out to be a gal , it only confirms my belief that Pratigya sometimes seems not to have a brain AT ALL .👏

her reaction to being expected/asked to support her father-in-law at the party office? her distraught reaction? was that realistic? if she married Nitin don't you think she would have had to act the society wife and support her husband in any kind of hospitality occasions? Just because Nitin's family was not into politics did not mean that business support would not have been expected from an educated DIL.Of course it wud have . And thats why I asked , if Jagmohans wife wud have kept quite after watching her playing Dosti Dosti with Nitin for a year or so . Frankly I dunno what she expects from this marraige .....all the time she is apologising to her Dad on behalf of her sasur or Krishna as if her sophisticated family has been forced to dine with tribals.
Yes, yes and another Yes. Uff this is all becoming so cyclical and perpetual

I don't understand why they are taking a character with such STRONG potential and showing her to be wilful, amateurish, self absorbed and reactiveThats exactly what she is Hope . Wilful , immature , self absorbed [ extremely] and very reactive . Also , she has no introspective qualities and never introspects her own actions or takes responsibility for them .đŸ¤ĸ

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Very well written and I completely agree, the maha episode was completely unnecessary, they showed us nothing we have not already seen before except for angad's death which was in itself pathetic, mainly because aren't we well aware of what that the CV's are trying to buy time to create some sort of a relationship between kriya so they will feel some sort of pain during their separation. I would not mind this at all since this is what we have been waiting for but the scenes they have been showing between them have not lived up to my expectations. especially the bike scene in the maha episode Krishna's character has been portrayed as someone who is wiling to forget the world when pratigya is with him. Well for the first time his wife who refused to even talk to him willingly went with him on his bike and he thought it more interesting to go and make fun of angad and his friends. This really got on my nerves this was one of the only interesting scenes in the whole episode and they succeeded in ruining this as well by all of the sudden changing Krishna's behavior he should have been concentrating only on pratigya that would have made the most sense. Their relationship does not seem to be moving forward and on top of this issue they have so many more tracks taking place. The election. Komal's sudden change (which i can understand) but they did not deal with these either they just showed us the Takhur's hatred of pratigya which we are already well aware of. Overall the maha episode did not offer us anything they could not have showed us during the week.
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i totally agree with u..
In Maha epi has nothing change..komal is still behaving badly with her in-laws...amma is still angry with pratigya,..ss and gruma playing game with praigya and krishna and pratigya is still hiding abt angad truth frm krishna.
I think pratigya should tell truth to krishna he love her he will understand her .
I just thin maha epi is maha foolish epi..its just a time pass nothing change..

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