Identity Crisis & Life Imitates Art UPDATED

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Posted: 15 years ago
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the great oscar wilde once had said what is now perfectly apt in my POV to describe the current happenings of SaJan' life

Life Imitates Art as we saw today ... in the movie Maya who is in love with Raj ( really what a lame guy they are using !! but thats beyond this 😉😆) .. ok as i was saying.. maya who loves Raj is in a dilemma today as Raj asks her to leave everything today in her professional world .. as he finds distance cropping up btw them and he cant take it

maya on the other hand feels she has found her true calling now.. in this field and is discovering herself.. the real her and she cant leave it

raj pleads to her .. isnt my love enough for you to wanna step back and she is adamant to her choice made

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Now as with SaJan too it seems the reflection of this image is being mirrored .. as Samrat cant take the time away from Gunjan..he wishes for them to go back to the way they were

now amidst all this yet the vulnerable child in Samrat guides the adult him... yes it does - as on reaching Excel thou in all his fury racing up his car.. once there he calmed down a bit.. he felt they could solve this..he shouldn't talk to Gunjan in an angry or harsh way

they have always talked their way out of all their issues and this will so be also one of them .. he thinks to himself he'd pour his heart out to her and together they'd find a way .. as the ans to all their ques lie only with them 😳 ( all so true... no matter how many ppl may come and try a couple can best solve their own problem themselves .. as does this one 😳 .. a quality we all love them for )

however the resolution of a calm settled man is broken when he is pushed around , when his self respect is put on the line by some guards who say .. guys like these always come up pretending to be the heroine' BF and he strikes at them

however is locked in a store room .. only to be later addressed by Gunjan his gal and Neil

Samrat making no bones as to what' on his mind spills it to neil saying u always do this .. ur film seems more imp 2 u .. but it's not as imp as our life

he asks Gunjan to leave with him .. however she stops and the precap suggests like maya she wont quit

she who today asked herself those ques which maya did in the movie - was there any other identity to her before ? no she was merely Samrat' GF.

however she finds it as a strange co-incidence as she feels Samrat cant be as possessive as Raj .. yet reflecting upon his anger in the last few days she cant help but feel diff abt it

today as Gunjan who practices Maya' lines says: neither of them is wrong .. no one to be blamed or at fault .. however it's time which is the all doer ... it once brought them together and today is ripping them apart

however what stands is the question - when will the same time reunite them ... as in the end as is the show and the movie called in the end it's about..... Miley Jab Hum Tum 😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Aahana, As usual, I'm left speechless at how you have grasped the whole situation. That is something a little rare to go to the depth of something and wonder why the particular person was forced to act so.👏😃. The same thing is with Our Sajan.

Gunjan, on one hand, questions her identity, if she was only Samrat's Gf and nothing else, if it was Samrat who made her do things which were good for her. She thinks as if she had no choice but to follow Samrat. She had no personality, no dreams. She finds somewhat maya's the heroines dialougues similiar to her own life. the heroine who fears if she has to leave everything for her love. She gets scared if Samrat expect that of her. She wants to have a personality of her own and not to be intidimated by anyone else and the past few days in which Samrat has changed completely, make her wonder if he was the same Samrat she loved.

Samrat on other hand is worried about his Gf and if he was losing her. He wonders if she did not love him enough to drop out of a silly film which was not as important than her whole life and her love. he even tries to understand her perspective when he was in the car and then decides to talk to her and bring the "Chashmish" out of that Gunjan. It was all well till the guards took a test of his patience. Naturally he'll be angry and if Gunjan delayed even a moment to leave with him, he will be beyond hurt!!

As you said, Both are right in their own way, not quite understanding each other's dreams and worries. I want a nice little talk between them!!


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Posted: 15 years ago
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i have been highly shocked by todays episode..
firstly.... samrat was so nyc taht he tought ki he should calm down and realax and discuss the matters with gunjan he has been so understanding as in i mean even after the incident he didnt want to hurt gunjan... and yahan.. gunjan is teeling her lined and remeberes samart.. i was really happy to see flashback moments it was refreshing...
but gunjan has suddenly started with this identity of hers... meri pehchaan.. fien she should be successful and Happy but it doesnt mean she forgets teh one who made her realise her identity...
uss guards ki himmat kaise hui sam se is tarah baat karne ki... gosh.. and he was locked in teh store room freak yaar..........
i ma hating neil and gunjan bond...
plus aaj jo store room main hua theek nahi hua and that precap... gunjan chose the film not her life her samrat? how could she? how could she forget ki aaaj ewoh jahan par bhi hai its coz of samart.... and guys i am serious agar samart nahi hota nahi woh confident hoti na hi usse sabke samne ina khul pati uske dar miltaya samrat ne.. uske talent ko pechaan di samrat ne...aur usse yeh bhugatana para?
i mean i feel horrible for sam...
hope all ends well........
Edited by pragya_luvsajan - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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awesome topic aahana..👏👏👏

sam was calmed...n made himself...dat he'll be soft spoken...he'l control his anger n frustration...
n yeah...he ritely putted...dat couples demselves can solve problm wid dat ease dat anyone else can't..!!!!😳
bt d poor thing was...all his calmness was ruined by guards...his self-respect was QUESTIONAL...by tum HEROINE KE BF..????😲😒 d way he was pushed out n was sumwat arrested in store rum😲😲😒
n gunjan her takings...wid sajan n maya-raj....sumwat same....bt though different...!!!
'"waqt hi do logo ko milaate hai aur waqt hi do logo ko alag bhi karte hai' true...very true...👏
waqt ne sajan ko milaya...aur ab yahi waqt sajan ko durr kar raha hai...😭😭

bt though...sam n raj reflections r different...!!
sam never asked gunji to leave d movie...he jus reacted on d behavior done by guards...n he was all d way rite at d particular moment...
each n every person has his self respect....n dis in SELF-RESPECT N NOT EGO..!!!
raj wanted maya to leave everything for dier love....bt sam he never said gunjan to leave d movie...he jus wanted his chashmish to be wid him...at dat particular moment..!!
n he is rite...dis movie has ruined dier life..!!! bt though...samrat has never asked gunjan to drop d movie..!!! DIS IS OUR SAMRAT..!!😳

bt gunjan wat she did was wrong as per i think at d particular moment....she shld support sam at dat moment ...she shld go wid him..n make him understand...sam needed his chashmish at dat tym....bt his chashmish was absent...der was only gunjan standing der..😒
ryt now...her responsibility she thinks is more important or prior den sajan/dier relationship..!!!

bt though i guess sayank will make demselves ease n understand....MU's will lower down... i m sure....doer talk will make dem feel easier n lighter....😛


Edited by charmee_sammy - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Completely agree wid u aahana!! Gunjan can see her n sam's reflection in raj n maya!!
those lyns of maya.. "till nw i ws only known as ur gf.. bt nw i hv my own identity..!! so hw can i leave all this n come to u..??" and den gunjan thinks whether she had her own identity earlier or nt..?? n then d flashbacks of TP, V ball.. she wondered dat at that tym also she gt her identity because of sam..!! n den jst lyk maya's lyns she thinks dat whether sam is also being possessive??
in the end she kicks out all these toughts out of her mind.. n thinks that it is nt possible!!
I loved all the flashbacks of sajan in b/w... 😳
n on the other side sam ws really angry bt den he calmed down.. n thought that as always he'll solve dis prob by talking to gunjan.. telling her everything, watever he's feeling!! thats wats d best part of sajan is.. deir conversations.. 😳 they always talk to each other n solve d probs 😳
bt wen he entered d colg dat guard stopped him from entering... n he ws being sooo rude to sam.. felt lyk slapping him hard!! 😡 😡 😡
in d store room.. sam jst coudn't control n he said directly to neil watever he felt.. dat because of him all dis is happening.. earlier dey were very happy in their life.. bt since this movie hs started n neil hs cm in their life everything wrong is happening..!! n then he caught hold of gunjan's hand n asked he to leave with him... bt she stopped..!! n in the precap she asked him yy is he nw behaving lyk dis..?? he ws d one who ws earlier forcing her to do dis movie.. so nw wat hs happened..??
n sammy he ws really hurt.. d way he said.."tumhari lyf mein mai hi ek galti hun.. sab kuch tumhari lyf mein mere wajah se hi galat ho rha hai.." 😭 😭 😭 n he left from there all hurt 😭 gunjan said that she'll cont wid dis film..!! nw god noes wats gonna happen next..!! m hell scared ryt nw... 😭 😭 bt in the end sajan will be together.. soo alz well..!!
n m looking forward to d sayank talk.. i hope mayank comforts him!! 😳
Edited by sajanroxx20 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Wonderful topic Aahana.....loved today's episode .. wow ! no words to describe it .. first salute to cv's for showing such a real , thought provoking & so necessary plot to base this track upon .....In today's time when the Indian woman is coming out of the protective folds of her family ..... this kind of situation & these feelings must b faced by all at some point in their life.. when we question .. who am I.. ....am just a daughter.. a GF...a wife ... or a mother!!!!!!!!!!

Today they showed both Gunjan & Nupur standing at that crossroads & asking these questions & reflecting on their desires & dreams..............
As for Gunjan.. I 'm totally with her. it's not her fault that Sam is insecure.. if u see .. what has she done.. she has not gone out with Neil to some private dinner , or date, or some party.. nor it has been shown that she is extra friendly or flirty with Neil.... but still it's Sam's insecurity & his thinking that is driving them apart... woh kehate hai.." khilali pulao".. that what he is doing.........I bet if it was a woman director or a dark, ugly oldie director instead of Neil .. Sam would not b so jealous or angry .. basically he is not upset with the movie or Gunjan giving him less time .. but because she is working with a handsome young director.. even if he was (sam ) very successful , he would have behaved in the same way ....
As for Gunjan .. she has always trusted him ,even when he was shown flirting with other girls.. so for her his this kind of behavior is a shock .. plus what they showed abt Gunjan thinking abt her identity is so right ...In a way she was always under some shadow.. earlier it was her much pretty , extrovert sister.... then it is her handsome, most popular BF.. today for the first time in her life she is doing something on her own away from her sister or her BF...she is trying to find herself.. on her own .. without anybody's helf .....this is her acheivement.. so therfore she is not wrong .. if she wants to continue this journey
In sajan's case both r right in thier thinking .... for him it's his scars speaking & for her it's her self discovery speaking......there is no ego here . but lack of communication that'll cause the rift.
Now the question is where will these crossroads meet? & how much will they loose in this journey ?

As for Mayur .. there is just Ego... & that too TYPICAL MALE EGO ... a guy who is so surprised that his wife has the capabilities to do better than him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....I'm happy that CV'S have shown Nup being strong & taking the step to go ahead with her journey to discover herself & her dream .............. Meanwhile Mr. Maynak Sharma has to learn a bitter lesson that his wife is an intelligent , confident woman & therefore he has to respect her
That's why this track is so interesting ... in both of the cases the situations are so different but both have the power to ruin the strongest of the relationships... in one case .. it's the over possessivenes & anger that'll destroy the relationship.. while in the other case it's the ego......& the common thing among both of the cases is lack of communication among the partners...
I think that what the CV'S are trying to highlight in this track... the importantance of communication in a relationship.................Kuddos for them for this ... & to u for opening such a mind blowing topic

Edited by anuverma - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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aahana first of all superb topic as usual 👏 👏 i loved your title as well you said so true hon and i completely agree with you is this called love today sam's all feelings reflected and represented love today i must say sam was more impactful then gunjan gosh first time i praising sam over gun 👏 for that mohit deserve standing ovation 👏

ok back to topic i must say chashmish's love make him so mature, todya i found different feelings in our sajan

1)UNDERSTANDING- SAM'S SIDE

today i really felt proud on sam in first scene where he was very angry and in the situation of "DO OR DIE "

😆 but after reaching excel he maturely talked with himself and the way he said calm down samrat nothing is gone be wrong you and chashmish can solve this problem and this is only bcz of movie but we will solve our problem it was his understanding and trust for his relationship that talk indicated his full trust on her nad their relationship, love can be survive only when partner trusts each other more than themselves

2)CONTROL ON ANGER

as guards insulted him and stopped him and on those harsh word he didn't react much as inner side he was burning like fire but he controlled himself and tried to make them understand but poor guy locked in store room of excel if he wanted to go in he would but reporter's issue he himself refrained not to repeat it again , it was totally attack on his ego but we know that sam is very egoless person

3)IDENTITY

may be more ppl today didn't like gun as first time she took step for herself from my pov she is not being selfish at all but first time he came out of her shall ya we never saw her like that but today she tried to find her own identity as i also tole in one post don't we find our identity over our parents 's identity but in the end we know that our real identity hind in our near and dear one's love and at that time for us that would be gr8 gift from god and today same happened with gunjan she never faced any kind of individual apprieciation from others as in morena being shy and introward she never think abt her identity but today with raj's dialouge her inner feeling and as we said proper word desire for fame cover her fully , we know that when you once get fame and name you just start finding your identity in the form of fame and name but identity doesn't mean name and fame its your strength to cope up with outer world with the help of ur near and dear one or may be with ur love ones , gun is def right in her place as she never faced this situation and this is first time she is thinking abt identity and that's why she is behaving like this but we know that child can run away from house, wonders here and there but in the end land up in his/her own "HOME" and sam is last destination and home for gun and she will return back when she will realize her only and only identity lies with sam bcz they r not gun and sam but they r sajan 😳

4)CLASH OF THOUGHTS

we all know that life is not bad of roses at all and in real life each and every couple fight and they has to tabhi toh bad main pyar se ek dusare ko manayenge na 😳 and then their love make them more stronger in their relationship, today sam was very upset bcz he was annoyed with guard and that chimpanzee emotional blackmailer champu 😡 sorry aahana i can't be good for him 😆 ya he talked with him not in good way but he was not at fault as from morning he was fighting with outer and inner side that made him more angry and she poured out his heart , i really like he straight forward said his feeling to that chimpanzee champu and became honest to him that bcz of you we r suffering but on his take gun's different pov clash and its really very interesting first time to watch sam dealing all this without gun

aahana one thing is clear from today's epi that this time gun will not support him as she has a different pov but sam's love will make him realize identity doesn't mean to do a film and you can get your identity but identity births from respect, love and care , sometimes i wonder our mother feels proud to be known as our father's name as our's name if she is house wife and for that i really respect and love my mamma 😳 😳 and gun will be feel proud when she will get idea of her identity

today one scene made her to realize her identity so i think in climax of this track and movie will make her realize her true love for sam 😳 😳

aahana i once told you that i saw super flop sawaria and it was boring as well but u know in that movie i really loved raj's char and i think sam's char has a some shades of raj as in that movie raj have a all shades, shade of best friend, shade of lover, shade of jealously, shade of unfairness to get his lady love, shade of helpless lover, and in finally in the end he found meaning of true love and happiness for his love and sacrificed his love , in that movie i only liked this 😆 😆
Edited by aashizin - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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res will update 2morrow need to see the epi again ... 😆😆😆😆
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very very well said....i liked the gunjan's convo...when she was rehearsing maya's lines...same scenario is thr happening in sajan's life also...sam is not able to match to this new life of thm whr he is away frm his chashmish...he is getting more and more possessive...and tht possession is coming out in anger.....i liked whn he calmed for some time and thought again abt to solve the matter by discussing...i felt he got mature enough...but next scene..made him unmature...his tempo gone off again..and all his insecurities come up....abt gunjan...her decision of staying with film..is gud as she is finding her identity except being sams gf.....time makes thm closer and time only separate thm...and the time is only thing which will bring thm together with great force tht thy will not separate again...i just hope so....:)
Edited by lucario - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aarthi.ramani

res will update 2morrow need to see the epi again ... 😆

aarthi you should hon it was good epi for those who r in love and facing their identity in form of other's view,other's expectation,other's direction but unaware of their own really identity hide in his/her love , you know confused feelings for identity but i am now more curious for climax 😃

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