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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sneha0601

Well this is just about something I saw yesterday, was pleasantly surprised and very pleased by it. Anyone saw the little jig of the head Shakti did at Terence when she won the "Best Performance of the Day" award, and how Terence laughed it off and then did a thumbs up? 😛 I LOVED watching that flow of easiness, that bond Terence has with his Toli.


I always knew Terence loved his students. He's been the only judge I've seen has ever stood up to comfort, hug, or otherwise when anyone is in pain or injured. Do you think that's how a mentor should be, how a master should act? Should the contestants have their say and have an informal flowing relationship with their teacher, or should it be cordial and strictly professional like we've seen Geeta in for example, at least relatively. Do you think it tends to affect or change the performances, or also affect other contestants from the other gangs. What do you think about it all? 😃

I'll give my two cents later on... 😆


P.S This is not a thread to say how much we love Terence, though that may slip in from time to time 😆😳, but compare about how ALL the judges have acted this season so far with their groups on and the tidbits off screen as well. Also, let's just respect everyone's opinion and let everyone have their say. Let's roll it on... 😃

Sneha- Great observation and I thought it was just me who noticed.
Here's my take on the bonding factor:
Terence has an easy going relationship with his students, reminds me of a poem where a little bird is pushed out of a nest to try and fly ...................
he gives his students wings they reciprocate accordingly and it shows
- doesn't get lost in translation, gestures work 😊.
Geetha has a very nurturing personality and if her student is one who doesn't get overwhelmed like Siddhesh/Binny, it works out well. For some others like Kishore the other day, it seemed like a scripted 'you are my maa, i'm ur beta'.
Remo has a very protective relationship with his students - tiger/cub kind and it works out coz everyone wants someone to watch their back.
Edited by SunBright - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: akanna



Wow, sneha, wow!!!!!!! 👏 👏 😃 So well written, buddy!! I feel so proud of ya reading it!! 🤗 So right about communication beyond words! Tell me about it, as I am someone who is very much like that, and at times how I wish everyone could read eyes, gestures and body language, rather than waiting to hear it in raw words!! Might be the fault of technology as most people now rely on communication through written words (forum, chat, email, etc) or hearing (phone), than in-person communication - so common among friends, relatives, teachers-students, colleagues, etc... Some people think wordless communication is like reading one's mind - could be, but that communication is the most powerful kind...




Oh for sure, there's nothing like experiencing a squeeze of the hand from a friend, or a warm hug from a parent, or a wink from your partner from time to time. It makes the relationships deeper, somewhat sweeter in nature. That's what I like about Terence as well. His relationship with his students seem genuine, something that would go on even after the show is over. The same thing can be seen between the contestants of TKT as well, surely they learnt the unity spirit from him only. Or he's been fortunate enough to have the most united group always. Either way, it enhances the performances, keeps everyone smiling and reduces competition stress. One does not need flattery words to know one did excellent, sometimes a genuine hug is so much more fulfilling.

I think Remo has more a professional relationship with his students from the little I've seen. He cares about them yes, but it's more in a teacher's style rather than in a friend's. Also, he always, in my opinion has a regret of not having so-or-so student in his group, this season Shakti and Dharmesh for example. And the insecurity shows really! I am talking solely about this season of course. I personally don't like seeing him like that.

Geeta, as rightly called, is more of a Maa to her contestants. She keeps overlooking all the mistakes, even when they should be grounded for them. She loves them of course, that shows, and she loves almost everyone on the show if I could say so. Each of them is like a younger kid to her.

Terence is a right blend of both, he's started becoming protective yes, but when he should point out the wrong bits, he always does. He is the total package of what should be, and what not! 😛 Reason being why I personally love him as a mentor. 😳

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: SunBright

Sneha- Great observation and I thought it was just me who noticed.
Here's my take on the bonding factor:
Terence has an easy going relationship with his students, reminds me of a poem where a little bird is pushed out of a nest to try and fly ...................
he gives his students wings they reciprocate accordingly and it shows
- doesn't get lost in translation, gestures work 😊.
Geetha has a very nurturing personality and if her student is one who doesn't get overwhelmed like Siddhesh/Binny, it works out well. For some others like Kishore the other day, it seemed like a scripted 'you are my maa, i'm ur beta'.
Remo has a very protective relationship with his students - tiger/cub kind and it works out coz everyone wants someone to watch their back.




Lovely analysis Sunbright! Totally! 👍🏼

I don't think it was just us who noticed! Or was it? It was like the first thing that struck me when she did that, and I re-winded the video to be sure once again. Was pleasantly surprised I have to say! 😛
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I will provide my perspectives on all the masters.

Geeta is definitely the weakest of the three choreographers. This is not to say she is not good. She is immensely talented and has done some excellent choreography with great creativity. Her foundation in classical is solid and is more knowledgeable about Indian classical than the other two. As a protg of Farah Khan her Bollywood is pretty good too. However, when compared to Remo and Terence she falls behind quite a bit.

This makes many contestants not want to be on her team. They feel that their chances will be better with Terence or Remo. However, the amazing thing about Geeta is that she has an endearing personality. She is definitely like a mother to her team. She is not just a teacher, she is nurturing them, nourishing them and raising them. Such is her personality that even those who did not want to be on her team learn to love her and perform for her.

Last year Siddhesh showed a lot of dedication towards her. Even Dharmesh seemed to have warmed up to her. Even members on other teams feel that motherly presence and hence everyone refers to her as Geeta ma.

One critical downside of her motherly attitude is that she tends to display motherly protectiveness. Sometimes that is displayed at the wrong time and she shields her contestants even from constructive criticism. She defends them and holds them up when falling down and learning would do them some long term good.

Remo on the other hand is a thorough professional. He is the most professional of the three. He has a very austere no nonsense demeanor about him. It is not that he is not emotional, but he prefers a no nonsense attitude to dance. He places dance above everything else. That is why he is rarely the first with tears in his eyes, his celebration of a performance well done is also very toned down.

His training style reminds me of a stern high school football or basketball coach. There is a strong winning attitude. There is a high focus on performance. The smile and warmth comes only after a job well done. He has great creativity and likes to push the limits. After all there is no point in dancing if you cannot give 110%. Unlike Geeta he may not get the loving adulation, but he sure gets a reverent respect from his team. He develops a good camaraderie and friendship with his team, but they are more like buddies who practice and play together and not BFF's.

He is also honest. Honest in the sense that he speaks his mind. He is not concerned if his words come out as politically incorrect, self contradicting , he speaks unbashed without mincing his words. It makes him come off as extremely abrasive and hypocritical at times, which is true to a certain extent, but at the same time one has to admire his transparency. He does not hold back his point or words for what people will think of him. That sort of honesty holds some water.

Apart from the sense of abrasion, the downside to Remo's professional winner's attitude is that sportsmanship and teamwork get compromised. Even Remo himself may get his foot in mouth by being to competitive. Also I think it is hard for a lot of people to adapt to a professional style, especially if people have sentimental personalities. Even though they respect their master and admire them, they tend to long for some form of nurturing. Perhaps that is why Remo's team is having so many execution issues. He has had some really creative concepts, he has had concepts where he could have won best performance – but his team is not pulling through for him. Maybe the lot he has this year could do better under a softer approach.

Terence I think has found the right balance between professionalism and nurturing. He has found that happy medium that combines the best of Geeta's and Remo's strengths. It is not that Terence is a much greater choreographer than Remo. I feel on creativity and technique they are pretty much on par, with Terence having a minor edge. Remo has the forte of hip hop and street styles, while Terence has the forte of contemporary styles.

You can see Terence's professionalism and focus on achieving perfection in dancing when he brings out his list of good points and bad points. It shows the dancer that Terence respects them enough to take time and critique the performance for their benefit. He could sit back and merely enjoy and give a subjective critique, but he prefers to give feedback with an objective list. His nurturing side is shown by the way he gives his critique. It is courteous and restrained. He adapts it to the individual, being softer or harsher as needed to bring out the best.

The balance of professionalism and nurturing creates a good team spirit and bonding. Each contestant is not just an individual competing for the same prize but a team that supports each other. Each rival is not just an obstacle to winning but a person who should be commended for doing well, who should be consoled when hurt and encouraged when things go wrong. I think when he picks out his team he does not necessarily pick the cream of the crop, but those individuals whom he sees that have the ability to grow with dance. He has a great balance of knowing when they are students and when they are like friends. He is the first to criticize as well as the first to see what is wrong when someone is emotional. When something is well done, he does not feel the need to be restrained and professional, he celebrates exuberantly because he knows that such exuberance transmits a positive feeling and boosts confidence.

It is Terence's personality as a master that makes all the difference. It is his balance that creates a team that always seems to have that individual warmth around them, without making them seem coddled and protected. It is Terence's team who usually has the most grounded likeable personalities like Parvez or Mayuresh. His team takes raw untrained dancers like Kunwar (Amar) or Alisha and makes them move like trained professionals. It is he who extracts flawless performance and best chemistry. His personality is what takes a good concept and choreography to good execution and memorable performance. He has mastered the ability to extract the best, without pushing too hard or being too protective.

The downside to Terence is that he is too technical in his feedback, reality show audiences prefer more subjective opinions rather than lengthy technical critique. His exuberance can be deemed over the top and excessive for some people. He plays to his strengths (which everyone does) . His perfectionism causes him to focus on getting one thing right before moving onto different things. He tends to favor what is going great and not messing with it, if it aint broke don't fix it attitude. The problem with that is that to most people it seems redundant and lacking diversity.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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@sneha, totally agree with ya... Terence has been a communicator like that with his students from day one in first season too, and that's how I started to admire him even more, I remember. Then his magic in his work made me adore him further... And the person he is, and how he makes his students to be nice humans, all that made me respect him a lot... Hearing the same words from his students made me realize that my readings about him were true!!

Yes, Remo seems to be frustrated that he didnt get Shakti and Dharmesh in his team, as Geeta and Terence got to pick first in their picking rounds. But then Punit wanted to be with Terence and he is Terence's student, and TL liked to have him too, but he doesnt keep any frustration about it... Remo is keen on winning rather than helping his students grow in dance and character. If not, he wouldnt have felt so much frustration. With Dharmesh I can understand as he might be feeling that he wouldnt have been eliminated if he was in his team. But Shakti is doing very well, and he should be happy for her as a true master and mentor! If he does care for her, he wouldnt be letting her down even after giving a wonderful performance...

Geeta had a special bond with Siddhesh last year, and this year it seems to be more with Binny. When he really loves them deeply, she starts to call them nicknames, I have noticed, and says "my so-n-s0" with love and pride...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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He is more than a friend and master... He takes his role as master and mentor seriously and becomes their teacher in dance, guide in life, protector in crisis, friend in sharing their happiness, a shoulder to lean on when they feel down or upset, etc etc.. He is a true idol for them at the same level as their parents and siblings.. That's how he connects to them and he understands them, without them having to verbally tell him about their fears and emotions....
[well said 100% true👏👏👏]
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Lovely analysis Sarina! I totally do agree I have to say! 👍🏼

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