Why did DJ approve a match w/the Maheshwaris?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I give full marks & props to Vish for reasoning & trying to knock some common sense into DJ's head. In typical Dino fashion, DJ went on about how in the Singhania mental sadan, his is the word of God, elders make decisions, & munna has the sanskaars of the mental household. But he pointedly, almost demeaningly said that the Maheshwaris have a very different mindset & Vish should not place conditions on them, give so much importance & support to what his children say, & basically points a finger at Vish's character & attitude. As usual, Bma agreed with this by going on about the children having too much say in the Maheshwari household, while here the elders are respected.

Having seen all this, I am confused as to how & why DJ agreed to Naitik's alliance with Akshara in the first place? Today's episode highlights the fundamental differences in thinking between these families & DJ knew that the Maheshwaris were progressive people even before the rishta was finalized (Varsha's pallu, Aksh's college etc). Yes, they belong to the same community & the 'sanskaars' are the same (even though DJ seems to think the Singhania's 'sanskaars' are somehow superior to others)...BUT, wouldn't someone like him marry the sole heir of his family into a clan that was equally steeped in tradition, thinking & attitude? What are the CVs trying to show here? What am I missing? What do you guys think?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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CVs are trying to show that parents need to look at the families lifestyle before marrying their daughters off to families from the 17th century.

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agree 100% srklover..
very vry very true...no doubt about it
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Originally posted by: srkloverdiamond

CVs are trying to show that parents need to look at the families lifestyle before marrying their daughters off to families from the 17th century.



The reason for my post is to get some insight into DJ's thinking about the alliance. For someone who is so conservative, stubborn & unyielding as he is, how could he have been ok with Naitik marrying into a more modern family? He could and maybe should have said no to this match..maybe its an obscure/irrelevant question now, but the fact remains if we continue to watch this show, this modern vs. traditional divide will continue to show up...

Coming to your point, I agree with u, yaar...No doubt the Maheshwaris should have done a lot more "research" than just take Shankari Tai's word that the Singhanias were a gr8 family. Also there were clear instances prior to the engagement where it was clear the mindset of the two families was different: when Bma came over to the Maheshwaris' home, she made comments about Varsha's pallu...& when the Maheshwari ladies went for lunch at the Singhanias they saw how stringent they were about every little thing in the kitchen. The discussion over Aksh's education was another indicator.

Yes, RajS would keep lamenting if Aksh would adjust to everything there, and she was consoled by kaki or dadi that she would be just fine. I frankly think kaki & RajS & even daadi gave into the false reassurances by the Singhanias..."hum aapki beti ko bahu nahi, beti banake rakenge." As a result, they did a poor job in preparing Akshara for what was expected of her in a traditional household. But in hindsight everything is 20/20...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i don't think anji ke Akshara's college was the criterion ! their daughters also went to the college , it's the fault of the Maheshwari's to get their daughter married at a young age , without completing her studies, not making her independent , always try to supress her , and hence this akshara who cannot stand up for herself...they always told her ke she's supposed to do ghar ka kaam after marriage, bow down the the wishes of others....the main reason behind Rajshri asking Shankari to find a rishta for akshara was tht someone frm the college was behind akshara and may be Rajshri feared that akshara might fall in love etc. etc. the very first episode which i saw , i remember rajshri said "kab sanskaron ki dori khul jaye.." etc. etc. their fears were normal , everyone is protective about their daughters !

yes, varsha's pallu daddai noticed but he must have also noticed that from dadi , kaki , rajshri , gopi dadi everybody took pallu on their heads !

what ur saying na ke daddaji should have noticed, it's the fault of Maheshwari's who went ahead with this rishta..basically they saw nothing...they were ready to get akshara married to anybody who will say yes to her ! Rajshri was so desperate..i never saw them discussing whether this rishta is good for akshara or not, infact they were praying ke ladke wale say yes ! Rajshri toh saw Naitik's behavior na when he argued with akshara...tht guy who can argue with the girl before marriage, whom he's meeting for the 2nd time, who's basically a stranger to him, i guess they got a fair idea of his nature at that time...but rajshri never showed any concern..at least i don't remember...she was still very happy that naitik said yes ! she was explaining akshara instead that she'll have to learn to bow down to her family's wishes in the future also !

there was no way for Singhania's to know abt Akshara more than what Shankari told them but Maheshwari's should have been more careful bec. they knew a lot about Naitik before saying yes for the rishta ! in an arranged marriage you meet the family & make a judgement, the mediator tells u abt tht family, and u can find out yourself if someone u know also knows them..tht's the only enquiry youcan do before marriage.....how a family is, how the boy is or how the girl is, is known only when they start living with each other...you don't know whats future has in store for u....

Anji, u toh know it very well ke everybody has to adjust in a marriage and i believe ke the the boy and boy's family has to adjust equally along with the girl..practically...you cannot go to sasural and dictate ur choices so early ! now when naitik and akshara are married, and since naitik's family has a big role to play, akshara or her family cannot ignore them..thoda sa they will have to go by their method..and it's good for akshara only...jis family mein ur married u have to abide by their parampara and sanskar ...yest. what vishambhar said, he proved tht he's akshara's father ! he has no idea how difficult it's gonna be for Akshara when she comes back...whatever he said reflected akshara's opinions also, whether or not she was asked , whether or not she agrees ! Vish has put conditions so he must now at least talk to naitik, or if he wants to wait for naitik, well it can be a day or it can be an indefinite wait..whateva it is, aksh will be facing more problems than before after returning..

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandalala

I give full marks & props to Vish for reasoning & trying to knock some common sense into DJ's head. In typical Dino fashion, DJ went on about how in the Singhania mental sadan, his is the word of God, elders make decisions, & munna has the sanskaars of the mental household. But he pointedly, almost demeaningly said that the Maheshwaris have a very different mindset & Vish should not place conditions on them, give so much importance & support to what his children say, & basically points a finger at Vish's character & attitude. As usual, Bma agreed with this by going on about the children having too much say in the Maheshwari household, while here the elders are respected.

Having seen all this, I am confused as to how & why DJ agreed to Naitik's alliance with Akshara in the first place? Today's episode highlights the fundamental differences in thinking between these families & DJ knew that the Maheshwaris were progressive people even before the rishta was finalized (Varsha's pallu, Aksh's college etc). Yes, they belong to the same community & the 'sanskaars' are the same (even though DJ seems to think the Singhania's 'sanskaars' are somehow superior to others)...BUT, wouldn't someone like him marry the sole heir of his family into a clan that was equally steeped in tradition, thinking & attitude? What are the CVs trying to show here? What am I missing? What do you guys think?



ur addressing the question to the wrong person Anjali..the CV's don't know what they're doing !

yes, girls can never get the same environment after marriage which they get in their maayka..it WILL be different no matter how similar 2 ppl. are..but here the differences r too many...i said it earlier ke they should have married akshara to some sadhu sant ! u know tht boy like do hanson ka joda wala hero...a total doormat of a man , even more foolish than akshara was just fit to be akshara's husband ! and naitik should have married a deaf and dumb girl...he and his family will be happy with her ! no tensions !
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

i don't think anji ke Akshara's college was the criterion ! their daughters also went to the college , it's the fault of the Maheshwari's to get their daughter married at a young age , without completing her studies, not making her independent , always try to supress her , and hence this akshara who cannot stand up for herself...they always told her ke she's supposed to do ghar ka kaam after marriage, bow down the the wishes of others....the main reason behind Rajshri asking Shankari to find a rishta for akshara was tht someone frm the college was behind akshara and may be Rajshri feared that akshara might fall in love etc. etc. the very first episode which i saw , i remember rajshri said "kab sanskaron ki dori khul jaye.." etc. etc. their fears were normal , everyone is protective about their daughters !

yes, varsha's pallu daddai noticed but he must have also noticed that from dadi , kaki , rajshri , gopi dadi everybody took pallu on their heads !

what ur saying na ke daddaji should have noticed, it's the fault of Maheshwari's who went ahead with this rishta..basically they saw nothing...they were ready to get akshara married to anybody who will say yes to her ! Rajshri was so desperate..i never saw them discussing whether this rishta is good for akshara or not, infact they were praying ke ladke wale say yes ! Rajshri toh saw Naitik's behavior na when he argued with akshara...tht guy who can argue with the girl before marriage, whom he's meeting for the 2nd time, who's basically a stranger to him, i guess they got a fair idea of his nature at that time...but rajshri never showed any concern..at least i don't remember...she was still very happy that naitik said yes ! she was explaining akshara instead that she'll have to learn to bow down to her family's wishes in the future also !

there was no way for Singhania's to know abt Akshara more than what Shankari told them but Maheshwari's should have been more careful bec. they knew a lot about Naitik before saying yes for the rishta ! in an arranged marriage you meet the family & make a judgement, the mediator tells u abt tht family, and u can find out yourself if someone u know also knows them..tht's the only enquiry youcan do before marriage.....how a family is, how the boy is or how the girl is, is known only when they start living with each other...you don't know whats future has in store for u....

Anji, u toh know it very well ke everybody has to adjust in a marriage and i believe ke the the boy and boy's family has to adjust equally along with the girl..practically...you cannot go to sasural and dictate ur choices so early ! now when naitik and akshara are married, and since naitik's family has a big role to play, akshara or her family cannot ignore them..thoda sa they will have to go by their method..and it's good for akshara only...jis family mein ur married u have to abide by their parampara and sanskar ...yest. what vishambhar said, he proved tht he's akshara's father ! he has no idea how difficult it's gonna be for Akshara when she comes back...whatever he said reflected akshara's opinions also, whether or not she was asked , whether or not she agrees ! Vish has put conditions so he must now at least talk to naitik, or if he wants to wait for naitik, well it can be a day or it can be an indefinite wait..whateva it is, aksh will be facing more problems than before after returning..

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for rajshri there was no criterion ! no prior discussion as to how the boy should be or how the family should be. rajshri just wanted her daughter married off. no matter even if he could argue. ( I think she also said boys can do that but a girl shouldnt be the way she is. she should comply & abide by the family rules where she goes.
for naitik too there was no criterion. pallu & other things as U said didnt matter much as there were other members who abided by it.
I just loved the way the condition was put forth by Vish. he was cool, yet detremined & strong on what he said. he acted like a father of a girl, yet not weak. he just didnt think 'what if my daughter would never come back to this house' but 'what if my daughter came back to this house if the differences are not sorted out in the right manner'!!!!!!!!!⭐️
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i dont think the cv s too know wht they are trying to show
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i dont think the cv s too know wht they are trying to show

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Originally posted by: sanw

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very well said

for rajshri there was no criterion ! no prior discussion as to how the boy should be or how the family should be. rajshri just wanted her daughter married off. no matter even if he could argue. ( I think she also said boys can do that but a girl shouldnt be the way she is. she should comply & abide by the family rules where she goes.

for naitik too there was no criterion. pallu & other things as U said didnt matter much as there were other members who abided by it.


I just loved the way the condition was put forth by Vish. he was cool, yet detremined & strong on what he said. he acted like a father of a girl, yet not weak. he just didnt think 'what if my daughter would never come back to this house' but 'what if my daughter came back to this house if the differences are not sorted out in the right manner'!!!!!!!!!⭐️



therez a lot of difference in the two choices ! the choices were very clear cut..IF he thinks that Naitik or his family are not suitable for akshara OR Akshara cannot adjust here anymore bec. of her differences with her husband then go ahead and take this step that i'm giving one chance to ur son, if he wants my daughter back he should come and talk to her, otherwise go to hell everybody ! and IF Vishambhar had this in his mind ke problems should be sorted out and Akshara must go back to her sasural respectfully , at the end of the day she has to spend her entire life with these people , THEN he was wrong to put any condition for akshara's return...either let go, put the end to the marriage and if akshara cannot, if she knows ke she has to return here only, it's her sasural then Akshara must come back on her own AFTER talking to Naitik...bec. she's the only one who can clear the misunderstandings , at least with naitik......explain me one thing yaar...today akshara has a problem with naitik, she's in her maayka , okay they will talk and differences will be resolved..tomorrow if therez any problem b/w akshara and her in laws , what can vishambhar do? will he come and sort it out for her? akshara's in laws r still upset with her...toh she must not come back na till the time problems r sorted out b/w Naitik and Akshara and Akshara and her in laws right?

nyways i believe tht such a step is taken only when u have it in ur mind ke everything is finished and this is only the last chance....so be it ! it's good for Naitik and BAD for Akshara..
Edited by _charu_ - 15 years ago

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