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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu: I agree with you on the point of where you say that society finds it wrong and stuff.. tongues will wag etc. And the society which has been shown in PR will find it shocking and disgusting. I myself feel Shravani made a big big mistake for which she must be slapped, she was irresponsible and destroyed her life.
However that statement was only my personal take on the situation of an unwed mother, not related to what the society in PR would think. Personally, I find it wrong when it is only the girl who is blamed, and not the boy. The boy, I believe, in the setup you have mentioned above, and the society you are talking about, often gets away easily, when ideally he is equally responsible. In most cases his family backs him up too. If as in Shravani's case, the boy dies, the family, in the setup you have mentioned screams out that the child is a bad omen and who knows if it is even our son's child. I feel it is all wrong. The boy must be made to take responsibility.
And so even though I hate shravani and the fact that Archu is suffering cos of her and most of all the fact that Manav is marrying her... I liked it that the family accepted shravani as Sachin's child's mother and at least tried to take some respnsibility (but i didn't like it that Girishji completely gave shravani up to them as if his job is done now).. and treated her with love and care. Sachin did not get any punishment cos of his mistake, so it is unfair that Shravani should be made to suffer alone and not be able to face society. What I find best is that both Shravani and Sachin's family shud be with her at this time, cos if the family of her child's father accepts her even though the son is dead saying she was and will be our DIL then what right does society have to call her names. They should boldly stand with her and say that we support her and will help her settle again. This is what I wud consider ideal.
And so, the Deshmukh family surprised me cos they did not behave like typical lower class Marathi folks as I mentioned above. They felt sorry for Shravani and supported her. They did not treat her like a leper and cast her away. But then they showed their lower middle class mentality by deciding to get Shravani married to Manav, believing only marriage cud set things right to stop tongues from wagging. And Manav, who is accustomed to this same society, felt that this was the only way out. (all except Damodar, he's really intellectual). Sad to say, but even Girishji supported and agreed to get his daughter married to a poor, uneducated guy of no match to his abroad educated, beautiful independent daughter. I guess at the end this is what is typical lower middle class society.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@koolsadhu: I agree with you on the point of where you say that society finds it wrong and stuff.. tongues will wag etc. And the society which has been shown in PR will find it shocking and disgusting. I myself feel Shravani made a big big mistake for which she must be slapped, she was irresponsible and destroyed her life.

However that statement was only my personal take on the situation of an unwed mother, not relatedto what the society in PR would think. Personally, I find it wrong when it is only the girl who is blamed, and not the boy. The boy, I believe, in the setup you have mentioned above, and the society you are talking about, often gets away easily, when ideally he is equally responsible. In most cases his family backs him up too. If as in Shravani's case, the boy dies, the family, in the setup you have mentioned screams out that the child is a bad omen and who knows if it is even our son's child. I feel it is all wrong.The boymust be made to take responsibility.


And so even though I hate shravani and the fact that Archu is suffering cos of her and most of all the fact that Manav is marrying her... I liked it that the family accepted shravani as Sachin's child's mother and at least tried to take some respnsibility (but i didn't like it that Girishji completely gave shravani up to them as if his job is done now).. and treated her with love and care. Sachin did not get any punishment cos of his mistake, so it is unfair that Shravani should be made to sufferalone and not be able to face society. What I find best is that both Shravani and Sachin's family shud be with her at this time, cos if the family of her child's father accepts her even though the son is dead saying she was and will be our DIL then what right does society have to call her names. Theyshould boldly stand with her and say that we support her and will help her settle again. This is what I wud consider ideal.


And so, the Deshmukh family surprised me cos they did not behave like typicallower class Marathi folks as I mentioned above. They felt sorry for Shravani and supported her. They did not treat her like a leper and cast her away. But then they showed their lower middle class mentality by deciding to get Shravani married to Manav, believing only marriage cud set things right to stop tongues from wagging. And Manav, who is accustomed to this same society, felt that this was the only way out. (all except Damodar, he's really intellectual). Sad to say, but even Girishji supported and agreed to get his daughter married to a poor, uneducated guy of no match to hisabroad educated, beautiful independentdaughter. I guess at the end this is what is typical lower middle class society.



nikita

Upper middle class r not much diffrent , take this from someone who has really studied these stratas with interest due to various problems in life . Middle class life is like this only . The extreme rich have money to shush it up , thats all .

I agree with the taking responsibility point and I really applaud the Deshmukhs for it . I want to make some things clear here about my personal opinion of the Shravani matter .

Unlike most , I do not feel like Shravani did something very terrible . She didnt know Sachin was going to die and I would view it as she was human and to err is human . Had she married Sachin , this whole thing wud have come to light in a diffrent way . Irresponsible sex it was perhaps , but they were two consenting adults and were not at all cheating on each other or planning to dump each other . They fully intended to marry . She is not a bitch ,a slut , or even a fast girl . Decent gal who made a mistake coz luck turned against her bas .

She doesnt seem to be a selfish , mean girl upto this point either . She never minded Savita taking her jewellery and she herself showed renunciation enough in her grief for such decorative items inspite of her extreme youth . Savita cudnt show that maturity or renunciation inspite of her own son dying .

She is also the only person who has guilt for Manav and Archana not marrying ...........even more than Manav himself . I simply cannot bring myself to be angry with her for these reasons . If u ask me , upto this point , both Girish and Shravani r decent , normal folk .........just like Sulochana and Archu . I cannot be angry with them . Girish looked out for Shravni and Sulochana for Archu as they love their children deeply compared to selfish Rasika and Savita who only use their children for their own purposes .

Just as u applaud DEshmukhs for not letting Shravni now and taking responsibility in her hour of need , I too applaud them . I also applauded Sulochana and Karanjkars for giving full support to Archu and letting her stay when she left Manavs house when Ajit framed him . Irrespective of the fact whether it was a correct action to leave or not , I am only speaking of the support as a mom that Sulochna gave , not caring for society and telling Archu stereotyped dialogues like Beti ki arthi sasural se hi jaani chahiye etc.

So u see PR is breaking grounds . Karanjkars told bahu {manju ] clearly that Beti will not leave house and Deshmukhs did not turn their backs on responsibility either .

It makes me happy to see this refreshing serial . I hope they break more ground by showing a divorce in middle class society too .........Divorce of Vinod and Manju and handing custody , for a change , to the father . I hope they break more ground by showing Vinod getting remarried to a really desrving , good gal . Vinod is a decent guy and doesnt desrve such a cunning wife and mother in law . So I hope a divorce is indeed shown and truths r accepted in a more modern spirit that Punni deserves better , having a criminal like Manju for a mother will only rot her life .




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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu: I agree with each and every point, even I feel Shravani and Sachin's mistake was in being irresponsible and not using protection.
There is one more thing that I want to see... Manav breaking relations with his Mom... unlike other serials where the good people after a time frame forgive and forget, I want to see Manav saying that what you did was wrong and I will never forgive you for it at all. Consider your both sons dead. Also I want to see him accepting in front of the Karanjkar family that his Aai was wrong all the way and the complaint though ill-fated was justified where his Aai was confirmed. Most probably we might even see it this way cos this is how his character has always been portrayed. It would bring about a new dimension in the serials' portrayal of a perfect husband who accepts his family's faults, goes against them and does justice to his wife.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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absolutely Nickita . His mom has commited such sins against good people . She has no shame or remose because she knows that she can get away with it . She is so sure that her children manav and Vandita are on her side .
First she was downright inhuman to Archana . Poor Archana never wanted divorce but she framed her in a way as if it was her asking for it . She is responsible for all the tears and the sorrow Manav had to go through .
Now look at what she is doing to Shravani , who is supposed to be her pet . The only reason she wants Shravani as her DIL is first because of money and then to keep Archana away .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As far as I can make out manav is like a blind owl now, blinded by his perception of responsibility . So blind that he cannot see anything wrong in all the abuse his mother is heaping on the hapless Archana. For a man supposed to be a perfect human, this is a big let down. How can one justify all his recent actions by painting him as a victim. He is supposed to be different.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@vishwap: When he saw abuse being meted out on Archana, he stopped his Aai, didn't he??? That too, when the other family members were watching silently.

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