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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

all the above are misunderstandings , even if they were not , even if they were true , still it does not change the fact that Archana is his wife .

Even if she is a monster then also she is his responsibility ,emotionaly financialy , in every way .

He cannot move on in life without settling things with her .The way he is going out of his way to take care of an already wealthy Shravani and completely ignoring his own wife, totally shrugging her off is WRONG .

The girl even turned down divorce to save her marriage but still for him she is a gone case , whatever she thinks or wants means nothing to him.

Archana is not a rich girl , he knows that she not very educated , working hard to start life at this age . he also knows that she does not have a rich father , her dad is retired .

What is wrong is wrong .....manav for whatever reasons , taking responsibilty of Shravani and ignoring Archana is WRONG


I stand with Vaishali when she told Archana that this time Jeeju is wrong . Shravani and Sachin made a mistake and he is making Archana pay for that mistake




Right on . What ALL seem to forget is a wife is not a joke . Leave aside the fact that r they in love etc and all that for a moment . The fact remains.......angry or not , whether he wants or not , SHE IS HIS WIFE AND SHRAVANI IS NOTHING AT THIS POINT . JUST LIKE WHETHER VINOD REALLY LIKES MANJU AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR NOT......MANJU REMAINS HIS WIFE AND JUST AS WHETHER DAMODAR HAS RESPECT FOR SAVITA OR NOT SHE REMAINS HIS WIFE .

THe divorce has NOT come through . She has a court order to live in that house , IT DOES NOT DEPEND ON MANAV AND SAVITA's wish . He is kicking her out and asking Shravani who has no legal or blood relation to them to live there .........if some neighbour squeals Manav can go second time to jail .

He has shown no responsibility in making enquiries on a humanatarian level to see if her maayka accepted her back , as she had directly told him she had fought with them before leaving them for him . Forget as a husband , as a human Manav has to ask this question . He has to ask her how she is supporting herself ........just 4 500 rupees isnt enough boss in costly Mumbai in today's world ............even a municipality watchman has better income . He also needs to know that she cannot be tossed out simply by his and his mom's wish , that it is her RIGHT to live there whether that whole dysfunctional Deshmukh clan likes it or not . His heroism in protecting Shravani and his noble goals have nothing to do with these legalities ...........and what he needs is a blasting from Varsha in front of all the Deshmukhs to remind him of that .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000




Right on . What ALL seem to forget is a wife is not a joke . Leave aside the fact that r they in love etc and all that for a moment . The fact remains.......angry or not , whether he wants or not , SHE IS HIS WIFE AND SHRAVANI IS NOTHING AT THIS POINT . JUST LIKE WHETHER VINOD REALLY LIKES MANJU AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR NOT......MANJU REMAINS HIS WIFE AND JUST AS WHETHER DAMODAR HAS RESPECT FOR SAVITA OR NOT SHE REMAINS HIS WIFE .

THe divorce has NOT come through . She has a court order to live in that house , IT DOES NOT DEPEND ON MANAV AND SAVITA's wish . He is kicking her out and asking Shravani who has no legal or blood relation to them to live there .........if some neighbour squeals Manav can go second time to jail . Manav didn't kick Archna out of the house. Rewind back to the scene between them that day. He asked her why she came back, she confessed her love and said THAT NOW SHE WOULD NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE. It was then that Manav said that it wasn't possible since he was going to marry Shravani. He didn't say that leave my house right now, court or no court, since I want to marry Shravani. Archu's decision to leave was her own.

He has shown no responsibility in making enquiries on a humanatarian level to see if her maayka accepted her back , as she had directly told him she had fought with them before leaving them for him . Why shud he? He knew that her maayka was worried for her, he had heard her talk on phone twice to her family members and had even talked with Varshu. Varshu had been concerned and asked questions. When he had come to her house, everyone had come out buzzing like bees. There was no question of their not accepting her, she had said that they were angry with me and didn't want me to go, but she didn't say that they threw her out so they wouldn't accept her back.Forget as a husband , as a human Manav has to ask this question . He has to ask her how she is supporting herself ........just 4 500 rupees isnt enough boss in costly Mumbai in today's world ............even a municipality watchman has better income . Aren't we jumping the gun here? He knows she is well provided for cos she lives with a caring family whose condition is much better than his own. Add to it that she has a job. Its not as if she is living in costly Mumbai without a house or support. He doesn't know that she has sold her jewellery or is being forced to leave house. I admit it is his duty to make sure his wife is financially secure after divorce and give her a part of his income/property...but the divorce is 3 months away, and there is still a lot of time.He has had too much handling of other affairs all these days, . He is not rich and making arrangements for Archu will need planning. In the coming episodes we will probably see him thinking and arranging for Archu's alimony. Remember, he is the same guy who was shown few episodes earlier as the one who made FD's for Varsha and Vaishu saying they are my responsibility. If they don't show him making arrangements for Archu's future I will consider it as a big blooper/flaw by the creatives.He also needs to know that she cannot be tossed out simply by his and his mom's wish , that it is her RIGHT to live there whether that whole dysfunctional Deshmukh clan likes it or not . His heroism in protecting Shravani and his noble goals have nothing to do with these legalities ...........and what he needs is a blasting from Varsha in front of all the Deshmukhs to remind him of that .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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What wud please me the most nikita dear is to see Varsha blasting him and pointing out hundreds of things that he has omitted to do by his legal wife while rushing off to take reponsibility of someone not even his . Responsibility ka itna shouk hai to pehle woh jimmedari uthao jo tumhaari legally hai , socially hai . Yeh toh yeh baat hui ki apna ghar saaf karne ke bajaye bajuwaale ke ghar ko thik kar raha hai .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu: In the second point rather than Archu's words, I was actually laying more stress on Manav's conversation with Varsha who had been concerned and later very worried, when Archu was at the house Varsha had called twice to ask if she was ok, suggesting that there was no animosity... her family had come running outside to see her, Sulochana's eyes full of tears...all this actually makes me feel that Manav had reasons to feel Archana would be accepted easily and it was actually best that she return home. Perhaps I feel it this way cos Manav has always been portrayed as someone who quietly watches peoples behavior and accesses them and doesn't speak much himself. Just my opinion.
About the third point: I did not mean to say that he shudnt be concerned about his wife's financial security since her family is well off... what i meant to say was... she isn't really in any dire need of money or financial threat at the moment cos her family can provide her well and so there is no real hurry in this matter., especially when Manav had been dealing with other matters as well... pregnancy, divorce case etc. There are 3 months for the divorce to officially take place and so in these three months he can plan for Archu's financial security, this is what I expect to be shown on the show. Anything else wouldn't go with his character of someone who is still concerned for Archu.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@koolsadhu:In the second point rather than Archu's words, I was actually laying more stress on Manav's conversation with Varsha who had been concerned and later very worried, when Archu was at the house Varsha had called twice to ask if she was ok, suggesting that there was no animosity... her family had come running outside to see her, Sulochana's eyes full of tears...all this actually makes me feel that Manav had reasons to feel Archana would be accepted easily and it was actually best that she return home. Perhaps I feel it this way cos Manav has always been portrayed as someone who quietly watches peoples behavior and accesses them and doesn't speak much himself. Just my opinion.

About the third point: I did not mean to say that he shudnt be concerned about his wife's financial security since her family is well off... what i meant to say was... she isn't really in any dire need of money or financial threat at the moment cos her family can provide her well and sothere is no realhurry in this matter., especially when Manav had been dealing with other matters as well... pregnancy, divorce case etc.There are 3 months for the divorce to officially take place and so in these three months he can plan for Archu's financial security, this is what I expect to be shown on the show. Anything else wouldn't go with his character of someone who is still concerned for Archu.




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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu: Shravani is the mother of Sachins child, so I dont see anything wrong in her living there, irrespective of whether she is marrying Manav or not.

Savita throwing Archu's luggage out of the chawl was I agree, wrong legally.
About Manav telling Archu that he is getting married to Shravani and indirectly kicking her out... I actually thought it was a good thing to end all her false hopes that very minute when she was going on with 'I will live all my life in this house now and do pashchataap and face all your anger and hatred'... I actually felt it was good he said it himself that these things wont be possible and you wont be living here forever cos I'm marrying shravani...so its better you don't expect all this and instead we go on our different routes now rather than reflect on the past and waste your life (precisely the advice we have all been giving Archu: to concentrate on job and school and not think of the past)... rather than not talking and giving her a corner in the house where she wud be silently suffering Savita's abuses... and three months later come to know that Manav was marrying shravani and silently sob and go away... I dont know... even though it hurt Archu then, I thought it was good that he made things clear, it saved her from three months of agony... I thought he was right in thinking ek baar mein jhatka de do taaki roz roz takleef na ho... Whether it was wrong legally I dont know.. but life is so difficult that going by the rule book is very difficult at all times is what I feel... sometimes for the betterment of everyone you have to do the wrong thing.
Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@KOOL & Nikita:
Wow.. Great to read comments of both of you... Well kool, you must be knowing
whom i might be agreeing...
Coincidentally, i sent PM to Tanya
saying exactly the same things said by nikita that i wwas happy that
manav told archu all on very first day and Shravani can live in manavs house
as his bro fiancee...

Still, agreed with some of your points kool.. Enjoyed your comments..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Guptill, when I saw that episode I was very angry myself, but then I thought Manav did the right thing by crushing all her false expectations and instead telling her blatantly that dont expect to stay in this house forever cos its not possible, rather we should go our separate ways now and try to make our lives a bit stable. It was decision taken by the mind, not by the heart, in the best interest of everybody.
It was sad but the truth is these difficult situations teach you to be strong, and this blatant truth, made Archana strong. When she came in the house she was begging even Savita who abused her so badly to let her stay in a corner. When she came to know that everything was really over, she became strong, pulled herself up and left the house for the betterment of her and everyone else. (actually not everyone- if she wud have stayed it wud have been gud for manav and misunderstandings cud have been cleared, but that is actually my desire as a viewer, not an opinion or viewpoint)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Agree.. I saw promo and when came back, found members of forum Very disappointed.. I thought whats wrong, it had to come out in front one day and its better that archu doesnt live in dream of being wife of manav..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@koolsadhu: Shravani is the mother of Sachins child, so I dont see anything wrong in her living there, irrespective of whether she is marrying Manav or not.


Savita throwing Archu's luggage out of the chawl was I agree, wrong legally.


About Manav telling Archu that he is getting married to Shravani and indirectly kicking her out...I actually thought it was a good thing to end all her false hopes that very minute when she was going on with 'I will live all my life in this house now and do pashchataap and face all your anger and hatred'... I actually felt it was good he said it himself that these things wont be possible and you wont be living here forever cos I'm marrying shravani...so its better you don't expect all this and instead we go on our differentroutes now rather than reflect on the past and waste your life (precisely the advice we have all been giving Archu: to concentrate on job and school and not think of the past)... rather than not talking and giving her a corner in the house where she wud be silently suffering Savita's abuses... and three months later come to know thatManav was marrying shravani and silently sob andgo away...I dont know... even though it hurt Archu then, I thought it was good that he made things clear, it saved her from three months of agony... I thought he was right in thinking ek baar mein jhatka de do taaki roz roz takleef na ho...Whether it was wrong legally I dont know.. but life is so difficult that going by the rule book is very difficult at all times is what I feel... sometimes for the betterment of everyone you have to do the wrong thing.



Shravani living there is indeed very inappropriate according to the norms of middle class Maharashtrian society . Ask any elder and you will get the answer .

Although she is mother of Sachin's child she was not married to SAchin . She is an unwed mother . Her rightful place is with her father . Yes she can come and live there after she is married to the elder brother Manav.........but only AFTER .

In fact tongues will wag a lot . Why she is living here , whats the problem and people wont take very long to figure out that She was knocked up . In Maharashtrian society , girls do not go and live at the husband's place before the marraige .

Moneywise it is stupid too .The Deshmukhs r not financialy well off and if Sachins child is the priority.......... to make him live . the best possible treatment and health care can be provided by Girish .

Someone said that day regarding Shravani's stay there that now times have changed , its no big deal . Honestly speaking , Nothing much has changed . Girls r not wearinh nineyard saris and r wearing jeans and salwar khameezes today but an unwed mom excites just the same amount of gossip as it did even back then . An unmarried gal lives without rhyme or reason in her fiancees house and eyebrows r still raised just the same way . Vat savitri poojas , Ganesh Chaturthi is celebrated with same spiritual sentiment by the same Marathi people . Suburban middle class life in Dombivli , Thane , Dadar [ not a suburb but a Maharshtrian locality] Simply doesnt change Nkita . The change is superficial and upward , the values never change . Hence I used the word INAPPROPRIATE.


Of course INAPROPRIATE my be construed as a subjective thing by some but Nikita ........whatever I have seen of typical Marathi society from close quarters the reaction behind the back of Shravni will be

CHANGLA DISAT NAHI HE ............meaning , THIS DOESN"T LOOK GOOD . Hence I used the word inappropriate .
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