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Posted: 16 years ago
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Kdmhmd Vs Bidai
Its basically Ekta kapoor vs Ranjan shahi. Ekta the queen of soap operas from nearly half a decade and Ranjan Shahi the new kid on the block. Ranjan seems to be carying the same old formulas of Ekta and some inspired titbits from Rajshri movies. Ekta on the other hand was a pioneer of a sort by introducing these ghisa pita soap operas to our indian television. Although Ekta has also been inspired from many of movies of his pal kjo and others. But this gal started it all! 😃
Coming back to the shows Kis desh mein hai mera dil is a love story! Shot it pitureque punjab and Bidai is a show about two sisters and their struggles. So which show you guyz prefer watching as a viewer! Which is more interesting for young people and people of other demographics? Which show is liked more by Nri's? Which show is more socially relevent?
I hope to hear from both sides lets see who comes up with a better argument.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I think Bidaai is the best serial, no way of comparsion and no offence to any.......
A love story can be done everyday.......
Bidaai is not a concept, it's a reality, it has not only one story, but many with some social messages, which can be compared in real life........
F.ex. the dark people to be put down, it's still unfortunatly in many countries, thought the world changed, but many of the people still the same.......
The love stories is too in Bidaai, but in simple ways, but yet very extra ordinary, to try to show the world that why this can't happen in real life too?.........
Why dark people are judged negativaly by some people sometimes?. don't they have right to love and to be loved?, the most beautiful message that we all are human being and the inner beauty is far away better and much stronger than loving a person only by the face, thought I think Raagini is very beautiful even by face MASHALLAH.........
The other love story with a beautiful girl, whom marry a man who is abnormal, why that can't happen?, thought her marriage is not a love marriage, but it turns with a time to a love marriage and it even helps her husband to understand life through her........
Money is not everything, love is everything is yet an other message in this serial.......
I would not comment about KDMHMD, coz I don't watch it, I am not much into Ekta's serials, I find them all the same, no offence to any, it's my POV........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Well firstly I never thought Rajan Shahi's shows have been copied from Ekta Kapoor even if it's a tiny bit coz I don't see the usual Ekta masala in it...
I would also like to say it's just the concept of Vivaah which Bidaai has been inspired from..And that's the fair vs dark and few other scenes but not the whole story as in such!!😊
Nextly,I would prefer watching Bidaai to Kis Desh coz it deals with reality and has this brilliant touch of romance in it which makes it all the more loving to watch!!😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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abt movie inspiration i will like to mention here while ekta never ever gave credit to anyone while copying movie stories, scenes , on the other hand Rajan shahi openly admits bidaai is inspired by rajshri's vivah and if u see the credits ...first they thank to all the Barjatiyas........
now abt using the same formula's of ekta....ekta started saas bahu serials...she was good really good initially that lasted only for 2 years ....after that her illogical treatments made her serials worst
list is endless....like deaths then coming back, plastic surgeries, main protagonist never unite , she shows immortal love but only in the starting after that till end they only cry for no reason, what ever the reasons she shows r all illogical, hard to digest, her vamps who themself donnu why they want to distroy their own families , her super heriones , deviyan .....can never do wrong but the fact is that they always do wrong....for no reason characters hide each and every thing frm each other for so called bhala for the family ....and thousands of other things.........but her serials were doing ok may be the reason most of the other producers also started to follow her formuls....and audience didnt have any choice.......then she took audience as grant........she started playing with creativity.......started using Body Doubles which ruins the scenes , its soul....
then came bidaai....yes it also has a family story, simple but reason it became hit was the small things rajan shahi showed......which ekta never showed and were totally diff than her serials....... small moments ppl can relate to themself....... story line which started and still on the same track its not like one track came....one villain gone now next track some one else comes to ruin the life of protagonists, same gisa pita story starts , then that gone previous one returns again and then leaps and same circle of villains keep continue .......and Bidaai gave some refreshment to the audinece .....thats the simple reason bidaai clicked and a hit now......
a simple example why i prefer Bidaai over kis des
prem came back frm death, his mamory came back, but no one in his family asked him where he was during that time if it wld be Bidaai first there wld never be any death and come back....but lets Imagine it happened then in bidaai they wld have asked him all these things in full detail and behaved logically.....which u'll do in real life if same situations comes to u...family asks questions for sure....not like as soon memory came back family members started doing all that suhag raat preprations, funn and blah blah without asking anything to the person whose memory just came back............this is the big diff in bidaai and all of ekta serials including this one....
no offence to anyone simply my views
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: gugly

Kdmhmd Vs Bidai

Its basically Ekta kapoor vs Ranjan shahi. Ekta the queen of soap operas from nearly half a decade and Ranjan Shahi the new kid on the block. Ranjan seems to be carying the same old formulas of Ekta and some inspired titbits from Rajshri movies. Ekta on the other hand was a pioneer of a sort by introducing these ghisa pita soap operas to our indian television. Although Ekta has also been inspired from many of movies of his pal kjo and others. But this gal started it all! 😃
Coming back to the shows Kis desh mein hai mera dil is a love story! Shot it pitureque punjab and Bidai is a show about two sisters and their struggles. So which show you guyz prefer watching as a viewer! Which is more interesting for young people and people of other demographics? Which show is liked more by Nri's? Which show is more socially relevent?
I hope to hear from both sides lets see who comes up with a better argument.

with no offence to KDMHMD fANS!😊
lol i took me a while to figure out tht KDMHMD stands for kis desh main hai mera dil!😆
Well.... i agree to you i guess bidai is a wonderful serial which is beautifully scripted n all the characters are doing full justice to it!
on the other hand ekta's serial is pretty much annoying esp after prem's comeback i didnt get the reason of bringing him back to the show wen his death was decided since day 1!
n the second of all ekta often comes up with a love story which includes rich gal or poor guy or a poor gal rich guy almost all her serials have the same story with equally similar family background be it KTH, KZK, KSBKBT all the serials have similar story naah i used to follow her shows religiously but now after many other shows like BMTD,BV n Bidai ofcourse i dont watch any of her seriala as of now!😳
As far as Rajan shahi is concerned i guess he always liked the family concept instead of purani dushmani n bringing back dead characters tht may be the reason of Bedai success since public want to see different things not the repeation he always came up with the differernt n unique concept which we can witness as betyaan n bedai n now yeh rishta kya kehlata hai so i love to watch bidai!😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I think that Balaji produced the coolest shows on indian televison history. She single handly changed the map of india tv. Once Srk said in an international film festival that india only has bollywood stars and no other stars. But Ekta proved him wrong she gave televison its own stars. There are atlest thousands of people who owe their career to her. She gave chances to youngsters and introduced a new breed of tv shows. The production value of her shows incompariable to any of the shows ever seen on tv. She gave viewers better production value then even bollywood movies. At one time of her reign tv industry made more money than bollywood. The costume designing, stories, the background music the acting everything in her shows had high standards. The women in her shows rocked! Even though they married more than once , but they were potrayed to be very strong and independent.

As far as Kdmhmd is concerned it may not be Ektas best show but it is pretty good. Harshad and Aditi are fresh new faces that act very well. The show has a great youthful touch thanks to it. The joint family shown in the show is very cute and playful and are different from the regular families shown in tv shows. I love the background music of the show and the supporting cast.
As far as bidai is concerned it is a great show as well. They do raise a few important issues. But for me it does not do it as kdmhmd or any one ekta show. So i wish bidaai best of luck and say that Ranjan shahi has still a long way to go as he is doing a great job but nothing pioneering.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Is it Bidayee vs. KDMHMD, or Ekta vs. Rajan Shahi?😕

If it is Ekta vs. Rajan Shahi, I would say it's not fair tio compare them...because Ekta had been here for more than a decade, and she made more than thousands of sopas...so its natural all her ideas are now bound to get used...what is left is only repeating them. Hence now K shows are not doing good any more...oh well, actually doing pretty bad, honestly speaking..
Rajan sir, on the other hand, had just come now, so again, its natural he will do good as he had just started his carreer...who knows, maybe after 10 years, he will also face the same consequences as Ekta madam did?😉 [Though I believe Rajan sir is far more matured to not behave the way Ekta madam used to...so even if people stops liking Rajan's show, they will not start hating Rajan himself, as they have done to Ekta for her rather anoying and superior behaviour with everyone else...
Though I believe we should all respect Ekta and Balaji for everything they had given us...no matter what, we cannot deny that millions and billions of people were glued to their tv screen, even if that is for a small amount of time, and more than thousands of people had become famous stars from their 'nobody' status....why, look at GHT, Smriti, Saakshi, Shweta....well they are now considered as the head of IT (indian television) but seriously, had Ekta not given a chance to them, I doubt they would have been what they are now. ''sides, Ekta's serials have done really good, too [before]. Why, look at the previous TAM ratings of KSBKBT, KZK, KGGK...
But for now, with the type of actors Ekta is choosing for her serials, and the type of soaps she is making...well I will any day go with Rajan Shahi. Just after the Balaji empire began to fall, I was really depressed as there wasn't any more innovative show for me to watch...it was really sad...but then Rajan sir came and brought Bidayee...well everyone knows what happened then.
So I would say comparing them is not fair. Compare them after Rajan had made serials for 10 or more years, and then see whether his soaps can survive like Ekta's one did {KZK, KGGK, KSBKBT).......
As for KDMHMD or Bidayee...well ofcourse Bidayeee!!!! Bidayee is the best soap for now....and er..I never did watch KDMHMD...not my thing, sorry. I guess Aditi and Harshad are fair actors, but that's that. They are just average (to me). The actors in Bidayee are way more talented.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Well to begin with whatever Ekta Kapoor had supposedly achieved in the past holds no water in my honest opinion and as to what she's doing nowadays........oh yeah I have a bunch of 'un speculated' comments about that!!......... I have to concur that the single accomplishment she's ever made as director till date is that of being a multi-millionaire screwed up business minded woman..........and all what she cares for is power, fame and money........Most of her serials from day one have singularly reflected her obdurate and petty mind set be it at the earlier stage or at the end of the day..........each and every story line boils down to the same thing! Absolute distorted and impossible situations and circumstances with not even the slightest connection to common sense.......reality here is a far cry!!.

Ekat's serial dramas are too utterly saturated with twisted and weird scenarios which definitely leave me all flailed and disgusted!.....I used to watch her serials'once upon a time( KSBKBT was a total novel , a clean break from the dreary old serials ........well!that's what I thought at that time...(I saw Kora Kagaz long time ago and though I was very young at that time, it's simplicity and meaningful storyline has recently sunk in my mind with such impact that I still rate this one as the best in my list of good serials!).....so I guess I was temporarily blinded by the glitz and glamour associated with Ekta's show.......an altogether different innovation as opposed to the quality of direction in terms of angles,shots and of course all the new trendy looks of the actors.......'Thank God! my senses were strong enough to repel such unbearable and constant bludgeoning of my intelligence and rocked me back with a wham to consciousness!!......it was like WTH was I doing!!!......so now whenever I happen to see her show, I am always ready to roll over my eyes at her sheer idiocy for the lack of a better word at the way she lorded herself as the 'brain' or should I rather say the dim witted entity behind the camera lens with the sole purpose of zooming all senses out of focus!!!...........

Okay!..............many would say come on! These are just serials.....to entertain us and be entertained!.......well IMO, entertainment being the crux of the media, I would prefer to be amused with logical and rational characters etched out in the best entertaining way feasible and with the right amount of sense and sensibility wherever required!.....and that's where Rajan Shahi steps in.....

If ever I have to start comparing Bidaai to KDMHMD, I wouldn't be able to end my praises for Bidaai and likewise my severe and wrathful criticisms for the latter!....so firstly, what's the core concept of KDMHMD??!....Anybody care to enlighten me on that???!...definitely nothing to do with the title'.. anyways,I don't even want to know and it's the least of my concern!.....secondly what's the message we are getting from that serial? Ok may be message is not important to some ....so thirdly any new interesting angle in that show?........may be the main leads or the long string of young actors dangling on Ekat's finger?.....Alright, I'll concede a bit here for viewers of a certain age range about the youthful asset since the pleasure derived for the eyes may suffice for most but not for all.......and anything else?!....I have no desire to delve more deeply in the acuity and intricacies of the relationships among the protagonists as per their character sketching linked to the storyline since KDMHD has no basis whatsoever in that perspective in contrast to Bidaai ....for which if I get started, I'll never be able to end.....

In this day and world , where money is realistically the focal point, Rajan Shahi being the true businessman that he is, has conceded the fact that as a director he should give fair credit to the audience intelligence.........and albeit for some couple instances in his directorial skills, I have no complaints whatsoever regarding his visions and thoughts when he adequately used them as his tools of work.....and his end products ultimately are Bidaai and YRKH..these serials may not be perfect in their execution in terns of consistencies or may not even see eye to eye with various POVs of the massively varied audiences across the globe( afterall he's human too and is allowed to err but not to drift away from your own conscientious mind!......and if or when he does, I'll for one grill him with my barbed criticisms......but hope I'll never see that day!)

On the other hand, Ekat Kapoor who may be the pioneer in Indian serials , she has somehow successfully managed to carve the way to doomsday for herself and that too single-handedly.....she who never cared two hoots for anybody's reactions or opinions about her senseless soaps is now forced to take second backseat and give way to other more capable and witty directors with a grain of common sense and humility in the now ever thriving TV business industry !......Lady! you could have made your mark here had you been a degree smarter in your pursuance of your goals (not to mention greed!)..... and please note that I don't look her down as a woman but as a human being!...she is being treated on equal grounds as her male counterparts in similar fields....'

.....but one thing she does excel at.....refraining most of her central characters from putting their talents and acts together in the most constructive and beautiful way had they been given a chance to prove themselves in the first place!....

So anyone who comes forward and proclaims that Ekta kapoor is a better director or her creations are better.......well then he/she badly needs to have his/her brain examined or rather take a real good look around before formulating such foolhardy opinion!...scores of directors are out there with much clearer far-sightedness......a sure way not merely to achieve but maintain success!.....So far I can see only Rajan Shahi who fits the bill!...

....barring the possibility of a sudden 'brain failiure'!.....😉

Edited by prat9 - 16 years ago
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Oh dear Lord.

So Who killed Jenny? Was it really Alice?
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Oh dear Lord.

So Who killed Jenny? Was it really Alice?

LOL!😆...WTH are Jenny & Alice?!!.😕....
or are YOU rather asking WTH are Ekta Kapoor & Rajan Shahi?!😉....

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