Death worse of feelings or physically?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Sweeties,

Guys...I really wish to ask a question regarding something that has penetrated in the show in various ways. Here is goes...

Does killing someone's love or intentionally stabbing feelings to use for your own means any less than physically killing a human being??? I know killing in general is a grave sin...but we always raise fingers at Prithvi taking Josh's life earlier, but what about how Angad killed Mishti's love so viciously?? So, who committed a greater sin? Is physical death of someone worse than killing a person from within? How does a person who has loved you all throughout...suddenly feel being hurt by the one they love not once, but twice?

Angad actually had the guts to come and ask for forgiveness after what he did to Mishti. I mean he intentionally gave her the pain...and then had the guts to blame it all on Kripa and then made Mishti feel as if she got that for what she did to Kartik...what was that?? I mean im glad Angad still did ask for forgivenes, but isn't your conscience crying from within?

Angad...who are you really fooling? Self-deception helps sometimes, but in what way are you being helped..please clue us in? You say you are celebrating...for what...kripa's destruction or your love's pain or heart's screaming voice or miserable life or anguished eyes or dying essence...???

What you do guys think and please do try answering the main question!!!

-Love4ever!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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truly i felt sad for mishti and prithvi and lot.
AK r stupids.but very cute couple šŸ˜† .why was angad crying if he's happy?i dont get that either.if he truly luves her he cudnt have broke her marriage.he cud prove himself innocent.abt kripa i can say is she dosnt want to understand any1 else.cuz she thinks wat she is doing is right from her view.i dont noe if i shud be on A's side or K's.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I think both r wrong .... but Angad had the guts to own up and ask for forgiveness in whateva way he did that...but for me Prithvi is a more dangerous criminal coz he just did not kill Josh but also blamed Angad for it and never hesitated to send him to the gallows...ie murder no2 and he also murdered the innocent luv bet two people(SUPPOSEDLY) šŸ˜•...I think Angad was right when he said that the kashish bet Angad and Kripa still exists and will continue to do so.. šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜‰....As for Prithvi he still masquerades around as if he cant even hurt a butterfly....disgusting...he does not have the guts to own up for his faults...as for Mishti....she too had never ever hesitated in coming in between A-K when she fully well knew whom A luved and not only that,Kripa was carrying his child.....Mishti was also sumwhere involved in their baby's death....she could never think beyond herself....if she really luved Angad then she wld stand out of their way.....As for Angad's actions today in destroying Kripa.....it's not that he hates her or luvs her less...it's his hurt that is speaking that he is constantly battling....away.....in the same way that Kripa did when Angad left her high and dry in the middle of the road not alone but with a kid......and a lot of painful memories......It's only time that can heal their hurt and ofcourse they themselves....no one else....... šŸ˜•

Luv,Zenia... 😭 😭 😭
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Love is not about finding the right person, but creating a right relationship. It's not about how much love you have in the beginning but how much love you build till the end."

well the love a-k shared was not enough that could sustain their rel. till the end.....

yes they love eachother still.. come what may... but that love has been overcome by hatred.... angad is not happy treatin kripa like that..... nor is kripa happy seein him like that.....

but.....

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Posted: 19 years ago
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AS I SAID EARLIER ''EVERY THING IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR'' šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜‰
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Love4ever aka Rinku, How are you doing today?

Sorry for the short reply above, but I had some chores to attend to at that time. But, now I am back to answer your interesting discussion topic. I never thought of this before, but now that you put into perspective, I see what you mean!

I believe physical death and internal injury are both extremely grave sins. However, they differentiate a lot. Physical death has a shorter life span whilst internal harm has an elongated ache.

Prthvi killing Josh may not seem as terrible as what Zaib/Angad did to Mishty at times, but here's where their actions share similarities, in fact are almost equalized. By killing Josh, he pierced Angad and Kripa's beautiful relationship of love, that has caused both of them to inhibit a bitterness in the depths of their souls. They feel rejected, and betrayed by each other, internally. This ache hurts them every day, and the results of this ache is Zaib's infamous actions today. Josh's death also ached Alia's heart, she was devastated to know her love was lying in the deities of heaven and not with her on earth.

But, the harm that Prithvi did internally to these people does not morally or ethically justify Angad's actions today. Because, he has purposely hurt Mishty just for a pact of revenge aimed at someone else. He used her to havoc Kripa's life, but in the end even her life now lays in teetered ashes.

I agree with you. Angad is celebrating with a torn heart. It is Kripa who is his soul, now if his soul is enwrapped in snares, how does it not pierce his heart? The answer is sublimation. Sublimation is the refocusing of psychic energy (which Sigmund Freud believed was limited) away from negative outlets to more positive outlets. Angad was hurt, by kripa's mistrust in him, her betrayal and her marriage to Prithvi, so he thought he would feel a sense of satisfied happiness after seeing Kripa's life wrecked as well, but deep within him he knew, that Kripa's devastation is his, and her tears slide down his cheeks. He has done what we wanted to do, but he denies or rather forces himself to not think about the negativity of his actions, and try to focus it as a way of completement of fullfiling the revenge that he seeked.

PS: Though, all this did help him in one very important way, he got Prithvi and Kripa seperated, but by wroughtful means!

I hope this didn't bore you, and it's not as confusing as I think it is, cause my thoughts were just randomnly spilling in as usual, and I felt the need to give a full reply to your interesting discussion topic.

Keep smiling...
Take care!
Love
Soni

Edited by soni595 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Zenia,

Thank you so much sweetie for that lovely answer of yours…it was very interesting points you bring up!!! A little something to what you said dear (hope you don't mind)…

You said: "I think both r wrong .... but Angad had the guts to own up and ask for forgiveness in whateva way he did that...but for me Prithvi is a more dangerous criminal coz he just did not kill Josh but also blamed Angad for it and never hesitated to send him to the gallows...ie murder no2"

You are correct in saying that both have committed deeds that are wrong…Prithvi killed Josh and put the blame on Angad without hesitating…but dear didn't Angad do something similar but not physically killing. Angad intentionally bruised Mishti's heart, very well knowing how deeply she loved him and then rather than admitting that he did it purposely to her…he blamed the whole thing on Kripa (did he hesitate?). I mean Angad did apologize for his sinful actions, but if he was really sorry then why did he use her and then leave her midway with a broken heart??? He knows the pain when heart's crushed pieces are visible to tearful soul...then why did he do the same to Mishti's love??? If he had guts to say sorry, then why not take the blame that he was the culprit in doing so and not any of Kripa's plan.

You said: "as for Mishti....she too had never ever hesitated in coming in between A-K when she fully well knew whom A luved and not only that,Kripa was carrying his child.....Mishti was also sumwhere involved in their baby's death....she could never think beyond herself....if she really luved Angad then she wld stand out of their way....."

Agreed that Mishti came in their way, but she did think to herself at some point if she is right in loving Angad despite his love not being mutual. However, even after her thought, she was also misled by the overpowering storm of circumstances between A-K. Mishti actually supported him all throughout, even after Kripa's testimony...she could never really forgive Kripa for what she did to someone who loved her so deeply. A woman so intensely in love should not have to bear to see her heart break once again into zillion pieces…I mean no one deserves it!!! The first time, Angad involuntarily wounded her feelings for his soul belonged to someone else. But the second time, however, I can't say the same…I just feel that even though he was fighting a battle within, he had no right to crush love coz his love did that to him.

I have never denied the deep love hidden beneath the superficial surface of resentment and anger…Angad's love breathes in every word and action of his undoubtedly, but does hate have so much power that love seems to be stretching hands and hate pulls it away??? The hurt, pain, anguish, sorrow, grief…all those feelings are surfing in the tides of mind, but breeze of love will calm everything down sooner or later!!!!

-Love4ever!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey Soni,

Sweetie, please don't ever be sorry for that…indeed I should be on the other hand for replying so late to your simply awesome and provoking ideas that you so sweetly presented. You know dear, sometimes we focus on how the characters react that we tend to overlook some of the underlying factors behind them…and I love seeing different perspectives!

You said: "Prthvi killing Josh may not seem as terrible as what Zaib/Angad did to Mishty at times, but here's where their actions share similarities, in fact are almost equalized. By killing Josh, he pierced Angad and Kripa's beautiful relationship of love, that has caused both of them to inhibit a bitterness in the depths of their souls. They feel rejected, and betrayed by each other, internally. This ache hurts them every day, and the results of this ache is Zaib's infamous actions today. Josh's death also ached Alia's heart, she was devastated to know her love was lying in the deities of heaven and not with her on earth."

I agree with you sweetie…that due to Prithvi's dreadful act, Angad and Kripa's love was drifted and came to see the face of "hate." Prithvi, a person who so drastically had a change in personality, claimed his love to justify his intentions of getting Kripa. Agreed Prithvi manipulated the situations in ways to find his pathway of obtaining her, but he could only do that as swirls of mistrust and breeze of doubts swayed in the fields of A-K's minds. They started to lose faith in themselves and so Prithvi took advantage of the circumstances…Prithvi was definitely involved, but did the faith in their love seem so insignificant in their eyes???

As to Prithvi killing Josh and separating Aaliyah from her love…that is simply unthinkable, for he did not even once think of how Aaliyah would survive without her love. That is the reason why today he is away from his love…no matter how much he loves her…deceptions, lies…all were rotating around his spirit. That's why I said once that even though he loved Kripa so deeply, he never knew the depths of love. What goes around comes around…and today he stands in the middle of nowhere!

You said: "I agree with you. Angad is celebrating with a torn heart. It is Kripa who is his soul, now if his soul is enwrapped in snares, how does it not pierce his heart? The answer is sublimation. Sublimation is the refocusing of psychic energy (which Sigmund Freud believed was limited) away from negative outlets to more positive outlets. Angad was hurt, by kripa's mistrust in him, her betrayal and her marriage to Prithvi, so he thought he would feel a sense of satisfied happiness after seeing Kripa's life wrecked as well, but deep within him he knew, that Kripa's devastation is his, and her tears slide down his cheeks. He has done what we wanted to do, but he denies or rather forces himself to not think about the negativity of his actions, and try to focus it as a way of completement of fullfiling the revenge that he seeked."

That's the thing how he suffers from within, yet puts the mask of contentment of his face…for he is unwilling to see his weeping heart inside!!! His vision of this "happiness" is so blurry that he can't even identify what he truly wants—revenge or love??? It's amusing for I know Prithvi's stands nowhere, but where does Angad stand right now?? Angad is standing in the middle who the road, but is walking towards dead end… for the traffic of anger is blowing horns at him, but will he be bothered by that or see the signal of u-turn??? Love is standing with him on the same road, but he doesn't feel love's essence holding hands…instead he just left love's hand and decided to walk on it himself...

You said: "I hope this didn't bore you, and it's not as confusing as I think it is, cause my thoughts were just randomnly spilling in as usual, and I felt the need to give a full reply to your interesting discussion topic."

Sweetie, you can never ever bore me with such interesting aspects…and please never say that for I simply loved reading it! Random thoughts sometimes make more sense…than thoughtful ones also…! I always end up writing what I feel…once again thank you so much! Take care hun.

-Love4ever
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Posted: 19 years ago
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i think i'll go with sandy..no comments

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