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Posted: 17 years ago
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Hello Everyone
I am a student who is currently residing in the USA . After what had occured in mumbai every indian be it me , my friends , my co-workers have felt this real fire inside us. We were hoping for one chance for our dear prime minister to call for all people to join hands and fight.
Well , sadly as always that never happened..
I always think how stupid we are . I Guess we are the only country in the world who are surrounded by enemies who are ready to F*&^%(Sorry for the Words) us from everywhere possible. It is a shame really , 21- year olds having that much capacity to put the whole nation into trouble. I think no indian is safe now. It is definitely a Pity. I feel Jealous because the "Chinese" or as i call them Mings are never attacked .. can any body comment why that never happens with the mings?? No Chinese student is ever Mugged or Killed by a BLACK GUY for money in the USA. why the unfairnes??s It seems China is 200 years ahead of india.. but there is good news sources report that after 2 years the Chinese primere would call his counterpart to congratulate . The Mings would be beaten by us within 2 years in the Population Race.
It is unfair too blame the three P's .. Pakistan , Politicans, Police.. Common what is the fun
blaming the age old villans . i think we should blame the main new villan MEDIA..
hay did u guys knew that our own indian media were showing LIVE counter operations and helping the Terrorists.. wow what a shame. one A!@#$%^& reporter was asking a Lady what her name was? what the heck which schools did these media persons go to...
Comming to the attacks the Terrorists came to india via a unguarded sea route............ what the F#$% what is unguarded suppose to mean?? What About the HOTEL STAFF .. They had ammuniation inside the HOTEL and no body ever knew... is this a B%^^ S#$% story or what.
hmm , seems like the f#$%^ engineers and doctors produced by our country. Other countries are producing Terrorists where they are given University Grants for doing research on HOTELS in a foriegn land. wow.. where is RAJ Thackrey.. If he sees my post let him know. Stop seeing SARKAR and Ram Gopal Verma Films they won't help ..
I HAVE A HUGE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE BRITISH WHY THE F#$% DID THEY LEAVE THE COUNTRY?? ARE THE BRITISH NOT ASHAMED. THEY KNEW WE HAVE BECOME ADDICTED TO SLAVERY THEN WHY DID THEY LEAVE US..
First the british should be slapped they left us high and dry..
I seriously hope that the CHINESE PLANS OF ATTACKING INDIA GET A URGENT MODE. ATLEAST AFTER 4 YEARS OF CHINESE RULE WE WILL HAVE NEWER ROADS , BIG BUILDINGS AND PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE.
i may offend everyone but please see my point HOW many of us have JOBS in our country ?
how many of us are actually njoying the resources in our country??
the answer is i would like u guys to answer.

Russel Peters correctly says We Indians Hate Each Other.

it would be better if we are under a rule. atleast we wouldn't be under a bloodsucker politican.
yes , i would join the miltary (if at all it exists) and may be join intelligence bureau (if at all it is formed ) and lay down my life.

i know truly think WE ARE THE SPOIL SPORTS..

Comments are Welcome. Please Comment .. Please..
Sorry for all the bad Vocabulary ... Sorry for the Caps..

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Posted: 17 years ago
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i understand ur pain and ur anger....cozzz m also indian...feeling same pain and anger......
u r corrent...wat media did was wrong......even NSG comandos were angry wid midea...coz one of the commandos was killed cozz cozz of midea.....it showd where our comandos r taking positions on nariman house wen dey came through halicopter...and wen dey were taking positions terriost started shooting dem..as if dey were waiting for dem......
"TV broadcast our commandos landing from a helicopter on the roof over Nariman House. By the time our men landed and started taking positions, the terrorists were already waiting for them and opened fire," an NSG official said.
i know media wanted to show us wats happening in mumbai....
for dat dey can only tell us wats happening in mumbai wid already taken snaps of taj and trediant......but atleast dont show our comandoes live ...where dey r taking dere positions.....
i admire dese reportes dey were shooting even ey were also in danger....but atleast dont show it online..dey can show it all after the oppression was over..........till den dey can only tell...........by showing already taken clippings and pics.....
dese days wen i come to my office i sometimes thing...who knows someone starts shooting (by guns) here and dere......
i realised dat how unsafe we r........
u said abut china..........i dont knwo much...but wat i hv heard or reliased dat in china foregn media has limited access.......we know only gud things and only some bad things happeng in china....all over the world most of the time china is only in media for its new development.......or its not much in media........
the govt in china has a powerful control on its citizens.....dere ppl cannot even practise dere religious ceremonies openly....or widut permission(on the basis of wat i read on net.)...even though dere is not terror attacks......cozzzzz govt has powerful control over its citizens....and dere security sys is powerful.....
watever its gud dat dere is some place in the world were terriost cannot do dere bussiness....😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: trustt

Hello Everyone
I am a student who is currently residing in the USA . After what had occured in mumbai every indian be it me , my friends , my co-workers have felt this real fire inside us. We were hoping for one chance for our dear prime minister to call for all people to join hands and fight.
Well , sadly as always that never happened..
I always think how stupid we are . I Guess we are the only country in the world who are surrounded by enemies who are ready to F*&^%(Sorry for the Words) us from everywhere possible. It is a shame really , 21- year olds having that much capacity to put the whole nation into trouble. I think no indian is safe now. It is definitely a Pity. I feel Jealous because the "Chinese" or as i call them Mings are never attacked .. can any body comment why that never happens with the mings?? No Chinese student is ever Mugged or Killed by a BLACK GUY for money in the USA. why the unfairnes??s It seems China is 200 years ahead of india.. but there is good news sources report that after 2 years the Chinese primere would call his counterpart to congratulate . The Mings would be beaten by us within 2 years in the Population Race.
It is unfair too blame the three P's .. Pakistan , Politicans, Police.. Common what is the fun
blaming the age old villans . i think we should blame the main new villan MEDIA..
hay did u guys knew that our own indian media were showing LIVE counter operations and helping the Terrorists.. wow what a shame. one A!@#$%^& reporter was asking a Lady what her name was? what the heck which schools did these media persons go to...
Comming to the attacks the Terrorists came to india via a unguarded sea route............ what the F#$% what is unguarded suppose to mean?? What About the HOTEL STAFF .. They had ammuniation inside the HOTEL and no body ever knew... is this a B%^^ S#$% story or what.
hmm , seems like the f#$%^ engineers and doctors produced by our country. Other countries are producing Terrorists where they are given University Grants for doing research on HOTELS in a foriegn land. wow.. where is RAJ Thackrey.. If he sees my post let him know. Stop seeing SARKAR and Ram Gopal Verma Films they won't help ..
I HAVE A HUGE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE BRITISH WHY THE F#$% DID THEY LEAVE THE COUNTRY?? ARE THE BRITISH NOT ASHAMED. THEY KNEW WE HAVE BECOME ADDICTED TO SLAVERY THEN WHY DID THEY LEAVE US..
First the british should be slapped they left us high and dry..
I seriously hope that the CHINESE PLANS OF ATTACKING INDIA GET A URGENT MODE. ATLEAST AFTER 4 YEARS OF CHINESE RULE WE WILL HAVE NEWER ROADS , BIG BUILDINGS AND PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE.
i may offend everyone but please see my point HOW many of us have JOBS in our country ?
how many of us are actually njoying the resources in our country??
the answer is i would like u guys to answer.

Russel Peters correctly says We Indians Hate Each Other.

it would be better if we are under a rule. atleast we wouldn't be under a bloodsucker politican.
yes , i would join the miltary (if at all it exists) and may be join intelligence bureau (if at all it is formed ) and lay down my life.

i know truly think WE ARE THE SPOIL SPORTS..

Comments are Welcome. Please Comment .. Please..
Sorry for all the bad Vocabulary ... Sorry for the Caps..

Sorry but you need to calm down, take a deep breath and think positively. What we need is good and committted people in power and believe me there are good people in politics. And it is not only politicians, every Indian needs to change.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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yaa solid snake what you said is true.. but a Paki shitt head says he can nuke us within 10minutes...
i guess we are the only country in the world who are surronded by enemies in every direction we see,
including inside. i mean we have a crackhead called Thackreys, who watches SARKAR, we have another SOB called Ram Gopal Verma who goes on purpose to the HOTEL where the BLOOD Hounds Media can see him and then there is a shitt head Narayan Rane who wants to be CM...my god tommorow there is a war and we will have to fight a war in 5 directions and still end up as a loosing side.. i promise myself what little i can do for this motherland should be enough to serve a difference for atleast some crack heads.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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what anuradha said is true.. Good Governement means Safer Country.. I guess people should be ready to give away some of their freedoms if the governement decides to use Marshall Law against such attacks . common people if we have a prime minister who is not falling down. we should still be considering safety.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Dear friends,
I have read all you agony, pain and the anger that you are feeling about the Mumbai incident,

I would like to give my views in the following ways.
First
The cause:
What do you think the problem might be? Is it that this the work of terrorist so we must act soon against it building a stronger security system or it's the work of Pakistan's ISI agents as they are being trained sent to India to hamper our growth of our Nation, or it's the work of independent organizations just trying to disrupt the unity of the Country to create rational difference among the people.

Who ever it may be they are trying to break our country's unity, integrity and peace. So how is that they are able to plan such massive operations, I don't believe that that is possible without inside support, now just leave the terrorist's aside as they have been trained to do such kind of activities, can we identify the culprits within trying to help them and who could they be? Can we stop them, Let's take the example or the recent blast .Now how did the terrorist enter our country, through sea route who supplied boats to them, how did they get the plans for the 5 star hotels, how did they know the exact targets unless they have a very good plan, so how did this inside support help by giving them the basic requirements then at this point who is to be blamed I say people, and the government as there is no course of action being given to stop such small mistakes, here as the corrupt mind prevails and act in accordance with the greed the terrorist can get what ever they want from Indian soil for a particular amount, they don't even have to go to other nations for help, they can get plans, escape routes, ammunition, vehicles, and all kinds of support. To say it in one word I say corruption in every area of operation helped such kind of activities.


Second:
The culprits:
As my friend pointed out that the culprits Pakistan, police, politicians, Indian media, British Govt, individuals like Raj Thackrey and so on trying to break the country in the name of religion, caste, language, regional differences or asking for a separate state
Or just in the name of power,
To point out from the start we can tell many causes of failure the Britisher's left out country low and dry but it has bee 60 years still cant we recover from it, I know its easy to say but no effective plan has reached the poor people due to he failure in proper structure of governance, the people start blaming the Dr. Ambedkar, for is poor constitution, but I say that the best ever constitution we have got to be a democratic, socialist, republic and independent nation that had plans for development the back ward caste and gave them an opportunity to grow for 50 years then they believed that after 50 years all would be equally treated but due to political failure in governance we have let our constitution down instead of it failing us, so we have failed our constitution, we must be ashamed of ourselves for letting it fail.
Next coming to the 3 P's, Pakistan, police and politics, as my friend has right full said we have wonder full neighboring countries they are always ready to fight with us on some issue or the other and trying to hamper our economic growth, to say some thing positive in this matter, without such a competitive neighbors we would not have been emerged as one of the world leaders. I know there are still lost of issues to be resolved among the countries and lot discussion and changes to be done to improve the mutual understanding between the countries. The only issue is we have to tighten the security at all the borders and international arrival points, so that no illegal activities are being carried out across the border. As police they are the most corrupt people in Indian society. They must be a way where this sort of activities can be stopped, as we have given the police authorities a very high standard and respect to them as they protect our society how can we benefit from their services if these people are themselves corrupt.
Politics is one of the basic necessities for any country but here more than developing our country it has become an hindrance to our growth, such kind of politics for power and greed must stop, people are still trying to divide the country in to smaller bits day by day everyone wants a separate state the they will ask for a separate community, they will still divide it into family name, our country is know for its unity in diversity so we must act and stop such kind of political march up, and arrest them in the name of law for disrupting the unity of our nation. There must be a political rule which must govern such kind of activities so that they don't influence the people at large causing a revolutionary movement to develop. These politicians just show ill hope to people just like showing bones to dogs and make them play this can be removed by organizing a nation wide committee to check the political parties from time to time, and make sure that people are educated and have the complete picture this can be done by the help of our media, each media has it pro and con's but here we can use media as a tool to educate the influence of people and its after effect and economic condition disrupted due to such acts etc.

The solution to the problem:
Steps to be taken:
Now everyone know the problem can we use our resource and be the best of best of best and stand as an idol and teach all the nations out showing our power, growth, management and unity and integrity among people show the world how to run a democratic, republic, secular county. Now developing the IT structure, roads, highways will not solve the problem as by doing so we are just trying to make the appearance good but we are not looking into the foundation, what we must do is to try to build the foundation strong and firm the we can have development at a very high rate but instead we are doing the former by which in future it may become to messy to solve the issues and too late to lay or strengthen our foundation, at that point of time the only way we can get out of mess is by doing a war. So that we are back to zero and start over again, instead we can start working on our foundation now so that we can relax later


One big issue is corruption can we remove it from our blood; I personally believe that with the increase in technology can we use technological growth to stop corruption to some extend. Like we can use it in employing people in various organization, can we keep track record of individuals(where they did schooling, education qualifications, family details ,job descriptions, cases they have etc. for every person)to have identification, to every person living in our country. So that we can have track record of every individuals and also giving them a National Identity.
We can use of education qualification while giving party seats to the ministers so that we can have at least some educated minister, India is the country run by trust and faith and belief, its truly unique of having such identity but can it have some purpose and educative and quality thinking behind the actions taking place.
We have good security forces army, navy, air force and intelligent organization like ATS etc. but instead of all of them working independently can we have a joining structure some were to have all the data (information) collected and analyzed and given act of plan for each team to do their role, just like in the it industry we have data warehousing (collecting all data and analyzing and auditing according to use) can we have a integrated structure between the police, traffic department and all the internal and border force organization protecting our nation acting together can we build such a secure structure in our society which can use the information from a single traffic constable to a top level officer of army, navy or Air force while working on a plan of action. And can that be independent of local politics instead they can have only command from Chief Ministers, Prime Minster and the Presidents relatively according to the plan of action with out the influence of cheap politics. Can we have another independent organization just to have track of all the people coming in and out of country from all parts of the country by all means (air, land, sea routes) so that we have track of all the exits and entries of our country.

Can we have structure starting from the university for development and research work .can the organization like BHEL, DRDO, and TATA etc building the defense mechanisms for out country can utilize the young brain of our nation, these can be implemented in all walks of research biology, medicine etc. or combination of one or more sciences.
Can we have a justice department independent of all the other sources? To give the proper judgment and in time, instead of delaying the action and the judgments. we have to form small teams to work on prolonged delayed judgments,
Indian media, at present its one of the worlds strongest media, which can shake and enlighten any system, we must be proud of our reporters and the channels but unfortunately due to over indulgence in every thing has back lashed during the recent operation for which we must constraint them to activities which can effect other institution or organization or plan of course can we have a department like censor department to have a check on all the media telecast shown to audience, such team must be fast to act and must be place in each media or channel organization and must have link with the main department so that every thing is channelised properly and correctly so that it cannot cause hindrance in development.


Can we build our country without saying we have a problem, we may be a country with a million problems but we can find trillion solution if we want that what we call as India, Lets stand up together and raise our nation.

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Posted: 17 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: pirates

The solution to the problem:

Steps to be taken:
Now everyone know the problem can we use our resource and be the best of best of best and stand as an idol and teach all the nations out showing our power, growth, management and unity and integrity among people show the world how to run a democratic, republic, secular county. Now developing the IT structure, roads, highways will not solve the problem as by doing so we are just trying to make the appearance good but we are not looking into the foundation, what we must do is to try to build the foundation strong and firm the we can have development at a very high rate but instead we are doing the former by which in future it may become to messy to solve the issues and too late to lay or strengthen our foundation, at that point of time the only way we can get out of mess is by doing a war. So that we are back to zero and start over again, instead we can start working on our foundation now so that we can relax later
One big issue is corruption can we remove it from our blood; I personally believe that with the increase in technology can we use technological growth to stop corruption to some extend. Like we can use it in employing people in various organization, can we keep track record of individuals(where they did schooling, education qualifications, family details ,job descriptions, cases they have etc. for every person)to have identification, to every person living in our country. So that we can have track record of every individuals and also giving them a National Identity.
We can use of education qualification while giving party seats to the ministers so that we can have at least some educated minister, India is the country run by trust and faith and belief, its truly unique of having such identity but can it have some purpose and educative and quality thinking behind the actions taking place.
We have good security forces army, navy, air force and intelligent organization like ATS etc. but instead of all of them working independently can we have a joining structure some were to have all the data (information) collected and analyzed and given act of plan for each team to do their role, just like in the it industry we have data warehousing (collecting all data and analyzing and auditing according to use) can we have a integrated structure between the police, traffic department and all the internal and border force organization protecting our nation acting together can we build such a secure structure in our society which can use the information from a single traffic constable to a top level officer of army, navy or Air force while working on a plan of action. And can that be independent of local politics instead they can have only command from Chief Ministers, Prime Minster and the Presidents relatively according to the plan of action with out the influence of cheap politics. Can we have another independent organization just to have track of all the people coming in and out of country from all parts of the country by all means (air, land, sea routes) so that we have track of all the exits and entries of our country.

Can we have structure starting from the university for development and research work .can the organization like BHEL, DRDO, and TATA etc building the defense mechanisms for out country can utilize the young brain of our nation, these can be implemented in all walks of research biology, medicine etc. or combination of one or more sciences.
Can we have a justice department independent of all the other sources? To give the proper judgment and in time, instead of delaying the action and the judgments. we have to form small teams to work on prolonged delayed judgments,
Indian media, at present its one of the worlds strongest media, which can shake and enlighten any system, we must be proud of our reporters and the channels but unfortunately due to over indulgence in every thing has back lashed during the recent operation for which we must constraint them to activities which can effect other institution or organization or plan of course can we have a department like censor department to have a check on all the media telecast shown to audience, such team must be fast to act and must be place in each media or channel organization and must have link with the main department so that every thing is channelised properly and correctly so that it cannot cause hindrance in development.


Can we build our country without saying we have a problem, we may be a country with a million problems but we can find trillion solution if we want that what we call as India, Lets stand up together and raise our nation.

Dear Buddy

I have read your reply . must say it was HUGE. there is a problem all of the solutions that you pointed out could be done if we first have proper educated people who atleast know to read and write or atleast tell how many ZEROS are there in a CRORE.

I live in USA , the land of so called opportunity. it is this country where you need to have a minimum education in order to reach a senate . How many MP's are there in my country who are atleast a Degree Holder. They say Young Educated Indians should go into Politics. I say i don't want to because we never were exposed to the good things about Politics and Politicans. Hell we have a Bachelors Degree for a subject called Political Science. Vishnugupta oops i don't think any one knows him.... well he was called Chankya wrote a wonderful book of Arthashastra. A meaningful book which i have read and in which chankya mentions that a Leader should be educated... Hell who is following that in his country now??

look at the chinese they still follow the age old books and strategies, you learn from past but in our country there is no body who wants to study history , politcs. hence there are people like me and many who donot want to join Miltary , IPS, Politics. We just want to be Engineers , Doctors without ever knowing that a Country cannot be called Developed due to the number of Engineers and Doctors it produces.

So, friends these type of attacks will continue to happen untill we use a hardline approach towards them and that can be done when you have a somebody young like a Obama. not some body like our schloar shri . prime minister...

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