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Originally posted by: ght_3fr3

as i know karna stop shiri kishan from teling pandaves about him been their elder bothers , as he know that if pandaves know they will give him everythings inculde the histanpure & make him the king of histenapur soo with his owth which pandet him with duryoudhana, he should give histanpure kingshiop to him as he can say no to his friend, soo if shir krishan tell pandaves after karna death that will keep histanpure under youdushirter leadership ********************************************************** ether in last time of his life karna tougth what is best of histanpure & his bothers ************************************************ no matter what other said or will say i think karn become winner with his death , his death was tragic but, he was the really winner in this MB & real hero of MB *********************************************************

Originally posted by: mohit_raja

karan was one of the bravest warriors and received one of the most noble death. he was really really a good person and doing favor for pandavas by saying to krishna " don't reveal the secret until his death" he rightly said that if he get the throne and he will give it to duryodhan and it will be an injustice to a throne. He knew Yudhishthir is the right person for hastinapur.....

Arjuna was a good warrior too but he never received the noble death karna received. when he was dying, krishna showed him his true form and gave moksha to him.

hail karna

Following the war, funeral rites were performed for all the fallen. Kunti then requests her sons to perform the rites for Karna as well. When they protest, saying he was a suta, she reveals the truth of his birth. The brothers are shocked to find they have committed fratricide. Yudhishtira in particular is furious with his mother, and curses all women to never be able to keep a secret from that point on.

After the 18 day Mahabharata war at Kurukshetra,Lord Krishna asks Arjuna to step down from his chariot.When Arjuna does so,Krishna then takes Arjuna some distance away from the chariot.Then he signals Lord Hanuman seated on the chariot to get up.The moment Lord Hanuman jumps off the chariot,Arjuna's horses are burnt alive and his chariot explodes into pieces.Seeing this,Arjuna is shocked.Krishna then tells him that the deadly astras of Drona,Karna and Ashwattama had bought about the destruction of Arjuna's horses and chariot.

Karna remains a tragic figure for millions of Hindus and Indians to this day. He remains a brave hero, a courageous spirit who braved impossible odds in his whole life, and died with terrific courage, valor and honor, to rise to immortality in fame. He is especially famous for his generosity. He is also an example of misjudgement and how that renders all the fine qualities of an individual futile.

[edit] Contrast with Arjuna

There are many parallels between Arjuna and Karna. Both were master archers, and competed for Draupadi's hand. A deeper connection lies in the fact that the two felt strong ties to the Kaurava side, both through friendship and through blood. Karna's ride with Krishna is very similar to the Sacred Bhagavad Gita, in which Krishna reminded Arjuna of his duty. Their decisions, along with the consequences to themselves and their families, are used to emphasize the importance of following duty, as Krishna expounded.

Karna serves as an excellent example of a gifted, generous,righteous and brave individual who was still doomed because of his loyalty towards the evil Duryodhana. Karna's affection for Duryodhana led him to, albeit unwillingly, assist his dear friend in all his immoral and unjust actions against the Pandavas. Karna was aware of Duryodhana's malicious plans against the Pandavas. Karna was also aware of his own imminent downfall for assisting the evil against the good. The blemish to his name is his treatment of Draupadi, and his role in the killing of the unarmed and outnumbered Abhimanyu. According to some interpretations of the Mahabharata, it was the latter deed that solidified Karna's status as a evil warrior in the war and gave Arjuna moral cover when killing him while he was unarmed.

Another parallel between Karna and Arjuna was that both possessed Pashupatastra.Even in the Mahabharata serial,it was shown that Lord Shiva while giving the Pashupatastra to Arjuna told him that Karna too possessed a similar Pashupatasthra.

Originally posted by: ght_3fr3

who did the last ruite for karna as i am totally confusied same resourses said pandavs, same said shir kirshen other said duryoudhana, i am totally confisouced *******************

Originally posted by: godisone

I always felt that there was no winner in the Mahabharat war, because even though they literally "won", the Pandavas had many losses. They lost every single one of their sons and relatives. Only they, Shri Krishna, Satyaki, and a handful of souldiers survived on their side.

While on the Kauravas side, nearly everyone also died, with only Ashwathama, Kripacharya, Kritavarma, and a handful of soldiers surviving.

Hence, dying a noble warrior's death would be considered "winning". In that chase, Bhishma, Karna, Abhimanyu, and Ghatotkacha were all winners, since they all died fighting, doing their duty and knowing they were going to die.

For me, the heros of Mahabharat were Shri Krishna, Yudhisthira, Arjuna, Bheema, Karna, Bhishma, Abhimanyu, and all of those people who died doing their duty.

Not counting Shri Krishna (who was the true hero of Mahabharat, because he gave us the Bhagavat-Gita), I don't think there was one singular hero, because many of those who died, died doing their duty and Dharma. Karna was no doubt a great warrior, and a great person, a daan-veer, but I equally revere Bhishma Pitamah, because he joined the Kauravas due to a vow also, and he helped the Pandavas by giving them the secret of his death.

Both Karna and Bhishma attained the heavenly regions, because both of them died ultimately helping the Pandavas; Karna by asking Shri Krishna not to tell the Pandavas his identity, and Bhishma Pitamah by telling the Pandavas the secret of his death.

Originally posted by: godisone

You could be right, but what I'm thinking is that how would Karna be the King of Hastinapura? I mean, the people favored Yudhisthira over Dhritarastra, but he didn't become King because Dhritarastra was basically ruled by Duryodhana. If Karna had been known as the eldest Pandava, how would things have been different? Duryodhana would have despised Karna like he despised Yudhisthira, because there was a chance Karna would gain the throne instead of him.

Also, along with Karna, Duryodhana highly treasured Bhishma and Drona as equally capable warriors, so if Karna was known as a Pandava, Duryodhana might have belittled his strength like he did the other Pandavas'. He might have said that with Bhishma and Drona on his side, who could face him?

Interesting thoughts though...