The little mouse that roared....

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I recently thought about the characters in Vivaah whom I hope they strengthen in the near future. And there is one person --Mr. Kohli. Good person, good father, good husband. Quiet, underappreciated, overruled.

While he does not know the truth, because everyone under the sun has kept the painful truth from him and/or lied, he has gone through the emotional rollercoaster that everybody else has been on: Yuv/Tanya marriage, Trish's heart-break, betrayal, and a wife who will suffer insults to her family's honor so that her materialistic dreams for her daughters can come true--they can have happiness and security. Why? Because money can do anything; it can buy everything.

As some of you may know, I have some venom saved up for Kul. Why? Because she played with her daughters, regardless of the situation. And what's worse is that she sees nothing of the pain around her nor does she recognize that what she did may not have been best. And only last week, she talked with Tanya about having kids with Yuv. It's like she doesn't see what the real relationship is at present.

Moreover, Kul chose one daughter's happiness at the expense of another. Now you may say that Rajdeep loved Trishna and would make her happy. That's what Kul hung her hat on. But, what if he had not? What if he turned out differently? Mr. Kohli has no designs for his daughters--no grand plans. He may not like everything they do, but he accepts them for who they are and what they want.

So it is with particular disdain that I look at Mr. Kohli being forced into the background by his know-it-all strategist wife. Insulted by her. Reminded of his "inability" to care for her as he should have. How SHE would make sure they had a good life. He generally remains quiet, in part out of disgust at the words being spoken. I cannot believe that in this show he has not been more vocal over time--against his wife playing puppet theatre with their daughters and with his daughters. It's as if he's quietly resigned to his situation.

I want Mr. Mouse to roar like a lion. This has nothing to do with power struggles between men and women in an Indian context. It's just that he is soooo soft (which is a good thing too) and he does not always stand up for what he believes is right. I actually think that to some degree, he has been emasculated over time, even though he was mild to begin with.

I'd love for him to set the record straight and help his daughters move on.

What do you think?

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-dhruvi thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I agree! If only he knew all that's been happening he might--no he would help out, prolly make the situation better.
I agree with your anger towards Kul, she does do all that and it pisses me off too! She does favor, and her dream of Yuv/Tanya's kids is a long shot from now.
I hope Mr. Kohli grows stronger, I have a feeling he will once he finds out all the truths that Kul has been hiding. The question is when will he find out?
Great post and excellent views! But I disagree with one part "Because money can do anything; it can buy everything." It can buy ALMOST everything. Happyness you can't buy, now on some level you can buy some, but in this case it can't. He's kept his family happy all the time before all the drama happened [Kaniayah, Raj, Rape, etc. etc.] I think he's done a great job with whatever little money he's had, Nupur && Mr. T (aka richi pants) came and put Kul in the blind spot of money.
As for the rest I'm just so angry with Kul I don't know what to say! But back to Mr. Kohli, I hope he does become outspoken, breakout from his quiet, underappreciated, overruled character.
But thats just my 2 cents
-Dhruvi ;]
Edited by indianchaklii - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yea, I was being facetious about money's purchasing power because that is Kul's mentality and I cannot stand it. Even with everything falling apart, I think she still feels she's right.

I agree with you on Mr. Kohli finding out soon! You know, he has the mind, patience and love that could help everyone deal with what is going on and start to recover.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I dont think he is emasculated. A lot of men put up with their annoying wives and don't say anything because they know it will only cause useless fights.

I agree with most of what you said except Kul didn't choose one daughter's happiness over another. That would be the case if both were pining for Raj and she gave him to one and let another suffer. Her plans for Trish had nothing to do with Tanya. They didn't even connect. Sure she let the marriage go on and made sure Tanya wouldn't open her mouth. But I doubt it was because she was comparing Tanya's happiness with Trish. It served both of her purposes. But she didn't pick one over another.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hi,



On this one, I absolutely have to say otherwise. Yes, the two girls' situations were very different, the intentions were different. But they are absolutely, inextricably linked. Why? Because if one happened, the other one would not have. This fact is irrefutable. For example, if Trish ran away to marry Yuv, then what happens with Tanya? With respect to Kul's intentions: Her plans were to 1) marry Trish off to Mr. Money Pants Rajdeep. All she has to do is shake him up a little, and pick up the coins from the floor or think that what she is doing is best for Trishna, who loves Yuv; 2) find someone to care for Tanya, get her married, save some future for her. Now, if she decided to treat the Tanya situation a little differently and not push or worry, but rather take care of her daughter, you would not see Tanya so desperate, so confused. And, with some level of support from her full family, she would start the process of recovery and would not have married Yuv for the reasons she did. Yes, she married Yuv too!!! Everyone has personal responsibility: Kul for how she chose one daughter's happiness (Tanya) over that of Trishna by supporting this Yuv thing, and pushing Trishna away to Rajdeep. Kul kept her mouth shut, that was her decision and the result is that she manipulated their happiness.



Look, when I think about Kul, I think she is a mother who loves her daughters. But she loves her dreams and her dreams for them just as much. But wanting the best is not always the best for your daughters, especially when the only thing she hated about Yuv was that his bank account was not as large as the great industrialist Deep. What kind of reason is that? Yuv was a really great guy, better than most, and he loved her daughter. He was doing well for himself, had a wonderful and well-off family, he was working in the family business....blah, blah, blah. She played God with her choices, as did others on the show. I don't care if she is a mother, an aunt, a teacher, a politician, or a swami--Kul was wrong, and she ABSOLUTELY chose how the two daughters should play it. What a witch! Sorry folks, but mothers who love their children, is a given although it does not always happen. Mothers who keep their mouths shut and allow one daughter to cry and be in pain, so the other one has a chance at a new life (Tanya) is NOT a mother. She is married to her dreams for them, no matter what.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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erm...I still don't agree. She was letting Trish suffer on her own. Her suffering had nothing to do with Tanya. Even if Tanya didn't marry Yuv she would let trish suffer. So even if it makes her a bad mother, she didn't bring a smile on Tanya's face by sacrificing Trish's happiness. Maybe I could say that if she planned Yuvi and Tanya's marriage but she didn't.

There is only one way it hints Kul picked one daughter over another that is if she told Trish the truth. But that still wouldn't have changed Yuv and Tanya's marriage. The show sees Vivaah as a unbreakable bond remember? there is no going back on it. By knowing the truth Trish probably wouldn't have married Rajdeep who she thought could bring happiness to trish. By the time Yuv and Tanya married Kul saw him as a son. She even admitted she was so wrong about him. That means she really misunderstood his character and not just bank balance. Trish was already miserable. And more miseries were coming her way as Raj was leaving her for Rajdeep.

Kul wants to see all her daughter married and settled in rich houses. It's not really pride and prejudice where she thinks trish is the prettiest hence once she is settled in a rich house the rest will find decent enough grooms. I am sure after trish she would've gone after Tanya to find a rich guy too. But she doesn't mind Yuvraj, why? because she thinks Yuvraj will keep her happy. I don't think she is a bad mother neither do I think she is some sort of golddigger. She wants to see her daughters happy. All of them. She did make a very very very bad decision with Yuvraj. But her intentions are still the same. She doesn't want her daughters to worry about money. It's not like she did it to move up in society or live in a better house. She is also blind. Or the eternal optimist. She closes her eyes on all the bad things her daughters are facing from bad in laws and thinking about their happiness.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Let's leave it as we agree to disagree.

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