Resurrection , not Reincarnation is needed

koolsadhu1000 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 17 years ago
#1
I have been reading many hints that SP will go the Reincarnation way ......but I strongly feel that resurrection of Saloni .....the lead heroine is more the answer to SP's TRp troubles rather than the worn out theme of Reincarnation .
Saloni is a fighter and a tough lady . Unlike the Vidyas and Sonis of Zee Tv , Saloni believes in fighting for a principle and thats wat endears her to viewers . She is a strange mixture of innocence and fighting spirit .....both points that highlight the Devi element in a woman and capture the hearts of a thoroughly Indian audience .
Yet , there r some points In the character of Saloni that need rectification at this point .
Saloni fights outsiders very well , but endures torture at the hands of personal relations . Be it Tara , Ambika when she is unreasonable , Kaveri , or now Laali Maasi , Saloni tolerates a lot of nonsense and cries . Some of the things these characters have done r pretty bad things but Saloni has seen no wrong in enduring it under the name of good sanskaars . She has not asked Ambika when Ambika treated her badly during her pregnancy ......ur so good to Kaveri who treats u like dirt and I , who always supported u , u have turned against me in a jiffy . She has not fired Kaveri who attacked her character and accused her of having affair with Neel certain very pertinent questions , she has never ever hauled Tara over the coals for her extremely ungrateful behaviour , and she shows no guts to tell Laali Maasi to butt out , Kalika's maasi or no maasi . In this respect we r not getting adequate viewer satisafaction .
Lead heroines like Saloni shud propogate the necessity of good sanskaars but shud also show a viewership of Zee that good sanskaars dont mean being a sitting duck and a target for vultures in the society to come and pick on u and tear u to shreds with their sharp beaks . If Saloni can fight JIji so well , why hasnt she fought Kaveri too ? Coz she is her bro's wife ? Such a double standard doesnt become Saloni .Kaveri is as evil as Jiji and turning ur face and looking the other way only coz she is a personal relation is not right . A lead heroine shud be shown standing up for what is right even if it means confronting ur personal relation .....like ur elder sister in law Tara or bhabi Kaveri .
For instance , in the laali maasi episode , they can show Saloni sharply telling that obnoxious lady to butt out as this is her house too and she is a mere guest. She may be Kalikas maasi , and yes Saloni did a lot for Kalika , but Saloni shud point out that maayka members of bahus simply must live in their limits instead of destroying the peace of a house .....that the same rule applies to Tara's maayka , Saloni's maayka , and now Kalika's maayka too , even Kalika isnt exempt from it as it is a joint family .
Also since Saloni is lead heroine , show her speaking one of the most powerful and effective dialogues of serial history , that our ancestors invented these customs with a scientific base [ a woman bleeds heavily after delivery and needs rest , and the cooking is done by others to give her relief and to nurse her back to health not coz she is ashubh . Our ancestors respected women like hell . See what a profound effect this dialogue will have on an Indian aduience of women and the TRPs . They will soar .}
Another resurrection that they shud do to Salonis character is showing us that she gives priority to her husband and child too . She dances too much for others is the popular irritated opinion of many Saloni fans nowdays . She may be crying a lot now but she really neglected her baby and only did Tara Tara Tara till viewers felt sick . She has often , though not with bad intention , taken Nahar's love for granted and only focussed on Advitya. Also she pokes her nose a lot in others business and doesnt seem to understand the fine line between helping sum one and annoying sumone [ like Tara in her bid to become Advitya's choti Maa]. Show us that Saloni is sensible and realises these finer points .
Goodness isnt weakness and self respect isnt a value to stand up for only with outsiders , u shud defend it even with family members . Show us that Saloni realizes it .
Her relation with Brijesh as a devar is simply beautiful . It shud be continued as it is unique father brother blend , and very effectively portrayed . But show us Saloni fighting Tara and yet maintaining her excellent understanding with Bhaisa as her policy is .....with each a seperate account .
Show us a at least one character like Mannobhabi who occasionally blasts even Saloni the lead heroine and makes her take a good look at herself and realise her mistakes . this will endear Saloni to viewers .
In short resurrect Saloni .....make her more human and credible. Endear her to viewers more . The reincarnation theme is really ghisa pita , try resurrection and the TRPs will soar if all the above qualities r given to Saloni .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 17 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

11

Views

2k

Users

7

Likes

1

Frequent Posters

tumhari? thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 17 years ago
#2
i agree with you she needs to be shown human not super woman
koolsadhu1000 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 17 years ago
#3
yes , she shows no personal feelings .....its okay for her to suffer so long as others r happy . There has to be passion in personal life too . Be it the baby , husband , or some issue . One has to be passionate about ones own life too .
judyp thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 17 years ago
#4

I find if you are doing something then do it right. If SP wants to go the reincarnation route then do the thing properly. Don't insult the viewers by going into the future but staying in the present. Having superficial changes but yet it still stays the same. However having said that I don't believe that SP can go the reincarnation route because it makes no sense. I don't see NS being the timeless lovers destined to part and reunite. I don't see Kalika as the indestructible villain that one has to be reborn to kill. Reincarnation also minimizes the other characters in the show and SP has never done that because all the other characters has lives they don't live for Nahar and Saloni.

If the creators of the show don't understand the ratings started to drop with the introduction of bad ?kalika?. It appears the SP writers love Kalika because they beaten the thing to death. Having read the feedback/comments people are tired of the same old storylines, the only heroine being Saloni, the endless pain dished out to Saloni, the evil always getting away. The lack of develop maturity of the characters. The fact the Tara, Saloni and Ambika are destined to make the same mistakes over and over and after a while it becomes tiresome. Why that ridiculous rescue/saving of Aditiya by Saloni? Why punish Saloni? Why Kaveri and Tara got away free? Why torture and torment poor Nahar? Are these the punishment for good people while bad people are free to do what they please? Why the lost of the child to good people? NS is a mature couple enough of these breakups crap?..

I agree that Saloni can defend herself however I believe the writers had a perfect opportunity to show the maturity of the other characters by stepping in and being the heroes for once. Tara could have shown maturity and character development by saying to massi that Saloni would never harm Aditiya?..Those profound words you mention would have a greater impact coming from Tara. The audience would have cheered ?It's about time??

Bhabo could have firmly told this woman deal with Kalika alone and leave the household to us you?re a guest in our home.

Why must Saloni fight for something that is not given freely? If the people who know her and love believe that woman's crap why fight? I am tired of her fighting for the love of that family.
So I agree with you it is time Nahar comes 1st. Let's see the wife and mother 'Saloni' to her family. Let her focus on that she has responsibility of her own. That must come first before Tara and her child....
I also agree they need to bring in someone like MB - I loved how she took no crap from Kaveri - she's an individual.
I agree no more 'stone' Saloni - eventually after all that pain and suffering real people become disillusion about life....
Edited by judyp - 17 years ago
Naddi thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 17 years ago
#5
i dont want a reincarnation
koolsadhu1000 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 17 years ago
#6
judy...
i agree with u totally that reincarnation theme simply wont suit Saat phere . BMTD was perfect for it as the storyline suited it . In SP , wat r they gonna show .....that Nahar saloni die in car accident ? And that Salonis daughter , living in such adverse conditions is actually older than the reincarnated Saloni ? What nonsense is this ? I cant even begin to imagine ! And wat about the rest of the household ....Kalika is no Sindoora , she is just a very recent idiotic entry ! I frankly think , Kalika is the biggest mistake Sp wallahs have made and they can get out of it by showing us for once a real fight between Kalika and Saloni . She has endangered babies .....not once , but thrice , once advitya by drugging Saloni , the baby in the womb too , and after switching it , Salonis baby who is alive .....by ruthlessly giving it to a poor woman . Why , the baby may die of malnutrition ! What kind of cruel sadism is this .....Kalika was fed properly although she had no dad wasnt she ? And the likes of Kaveri and Kalika who r cruelty personified go scot free while SAloni sheds helpless tears ????
SP people go wrong when they show Tara , Kaveri , kakasa , Kakisa , Ambika .....simply not learninig from mistakes . This has begun to bug viewers . I understand a serial has to run , but repeating same story line by making same characters do same mistakes is not wise as the characters start losing credibility in eyes of viewers . They must show permanent behavioural changes in characters . A wiser Tara , a repentant Ambika , a scared and wary kaveri , a remorseful Dheer wud be welcome . Each time a character walks in ......Tara changes like chameleon , and eachhhhhh time Saloni forgives her . Who is more irritating....Tara or Saloni ....becomes question for viewers and they stop watching the show . Neither do they show Tara becoming wiser with Jiji experience , nor do they show the change in Saloni , who says enough is enough this time i wont forgive Tara . This is ridiculous .
There is no personal passionate life for Saloni either . The parivarik thought thing has gone way overboard . Neither is she passionate about Nahar [ even in bedroom she thinks of Tara and Advitya] nor has she been shown thinking with guilt about what neglect she personally gave her own baby .....who wud have given her a life of her own .
I also feel Lead heroes or heroines shud not be above correction . There must be at least one character who gently steps in and corrects the lead heroine when she goes astray . I tell u , Mannobhabi ....one of the best characters Saat phere ever produced has unecessarily been sent into oblivion by the silly SP creatives . She was the perfectttt character to chide Saloni and tell her sum ancient worldly wisdom.....that others will manage for a change , u first look after ur husband , ur baby too . Doing things for others doesnt mean neglecting ur own life . Mannobhabhi was perfect to give Ambi a real blasting for not listening to Narpats side of the story [ just like Kaveri] and feeling bliss in doing menial jobs for Kaveri , and Mannobhabi was perffffffect for coming and staying with Saloni at this point at her sasural for looking after her or being there for her at such a delicate time , and giving real good to that laali maasi . Laali maasi desrves a mannobhabi more than a Bhabho , and we want Mannobhabi back !!!!
The brainless wonders calling themselves creatives have sent away such a wonderful character and r exploring theme of reincarnation which they will surely botch up due to inadequate research . The second phase of BMTd started out fine but they started messing in the middle with absolutely same repititive stories . Reincarnation wont suit Saat phere . Instead show us a phase where Saloni gives for first time tough fight to family insiders and comes out victorious .....show us Saloni launches herself whole heartedly in singing , becomes top most singer , makes Tara Kalika jealous , conceives again , finds daughter , [ anything] and yes , for first time makes nahar her priority . For Nahar does love Saloni passionately .....he was driven to drink when she left him in the Jiji phase , and see how he spoke yesterday in bedroom when he saw her crying due to laali . Its Saloni who doesnt respond passionately enough and we want it changed .
realitybites thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 17 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I have been reading many hints that SP will go the Reincarnation way ......but I strongly feel that resurrection of Saloni .....the lead heroine is more the answer to SP's TRp troubles rather than the worn out theme of Reincarnation .

I agree with you here and after reading the news its clearly mentioned that the producer has denied it. So there wont be any reincarnation happening.
Saloni fights outsiders very well , but endures torture at the hands of personal relations . Be it Tara , Ambika when she is unreasonable , Kaveri , or now Laali Maasi , Saloni tolerates a lot of nonsense and cries . Some of the things these characters have done r pretty bad things but Saloni has seen no wrong in enduring it under the name of good sanskaars . She has not asked Ambika when Ambika treated her badly during her pregnancy ......ur so good to Kaveri who treats u like dirt and I , who always supported u , u have turned against me in a jiffy . She has not fired Kaveri who attacked her character and accused her of having affair with Neel certain very pertinent questions , she has never ever hauled Tara over the coals for her extremely ungrateful behaviour , and she shows no guts to tell Laali Maasi to butt out , Kalika's maasi or no maasi . In this respect we r not getting adequate viewer satisafaction .
See Saloni is still traumatised becoz of loosing the baby. What she is looking for is realigning her hopes and dreams with what is available meaning Advitya. Now yes she does tolerate lot of humiliation and allegations becoz of either respect, care or she doesnt care in care of Kaveri. In Laali Maasi case its the family members to come fwd and stop her from making caustic and brutal remarks. Even Bhabho is listening to all the vitriol Laali churns out. Salon wld naturally feel targeted and want to see comfort and support which none of the selfish members are ready to extend.
Lead heroines like Saloni shud propogate the necessity of good sanskaars but shud also show a viewership of Zee that good sanskaars dont mean being a sitting duck and a target for vultures in the society to come and pick on u and tear u to shreds with their sharp beaks . If Saloni can fight JIji so well , why hasnt she fought Kaveri too ? Coz she is her bro's wife ? Such a double standard doesnt become Saloni .Kaveri is as evil as Jiji and turning ur face and looking the other way only coz she is a personal relation is not right . A lead heroine shud be shown standing up for what is right even if it means confronting ur personal relation .....like ur elder sister in law Tara or bhabi Kaveri .
For instance , in the laali maasi episode , they can show Saloni sharply telling that obnoxious lady to butt out as this is her house too and she is a mere guest. She may be Kalikas maasi , and yes Saloni did a lot for Kalika , but Saloni shud point out that maayka members of bahus simply must live in their limits instead of destroying the peace of a house .....that the same rule applies to Tara's maayka , Saloni's maayka , and now Kalika's maayka too , even Kalika isnt exempt from it as it is a joint family .
Also since Saloni is lead heroine , show her speaking one of the most powerful and effective dialogues of serial history , that our ancestors invented these customs with a scientific base [ a woman bleeds heavily after delivery and needs rest , and the cooking is done by others to give her relief and to nurse her back to health not coz she is ashubh . Our ancestors respected women like hell . See what a profound effect this dialogue will have on an Indian aduience of women and the TRPs . They will soar .}
Another resurrection that they shud do to Salonis character is showing us that she gives priority to her husband and child too . She dances too much for others is the popular irritated opinion of many Saloni fans nowdays . She may be crying a lot now but she really neglected her baby and only did Tara Tara Tara till viewers felt sick . She has often , though not with bad intention , taken Nahar's love for granted and only focussed on Advitya. Also she pokes her nose a lot in others business and doesnt seem to understand the fine line between helping sum one and annoying sumone [ like Tara in her bid to become Advitya's choti Maa]. Show us that Saloni is sensible and realises these finer points .
Goodness isnt weakness and self respect isnt a value to stand up for only with outsiders , u shud defend it even with family members . Show us that Saloni realizes it .
Her relation with Brijesh as a devar is simply beautiful . It shud be continued as it is unique father brother blend , and very effectively portrayed . But show us Saloni fighting Tara and yet maintaining her excellent understanding with Bhaisa as her policy is .....with each a seperate account .
Show us a at least one character like Mannobhabi who occasionally blasts even Saloni the lead heroine and makes her take a good look at herself and realise her mistakes . this will endear Saloni to viewers .
In short resurrect Saloni .....make her more human and credible. Endear her to viewers more . The reincarnation theme is really ghisa pita , try resurrection and the TRPs will soar if all the above qualities r given to Saloni .
I agree the serials shd show the lead fighting it out and upholding her rights but it seems that the large section of viewship wallow in self pity and relate with the travials of lead herione with their life. So thats why this trend is adapted.
What Saloni did was her own wish relating to Tara's thought pattern and beyond her thanks she doesnt want to entertain any more. Thats her approach towards the relationship. See if they keep backing up all tortures inflcited on the lead then no one will sympathise with her and the negative charac will soon become the lead😆
Saloni will fight back but guess only after the track completely peaks up which I think it will by this weekend.
Yes Brij-Sal reln has been sensibly portrayed and well recd by the audience too.
They may change Saloni's approach towards handling problems but her basic nature of helping others just might remain😉😆

realitybites thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 17 years ago
#8

Originally posted by: judyp

I find if you are doing something then do it right. If SP wants to go the reincarnation route then do the thing properly. Don't insult the viewers by going into the future but staying in the present. Having superficial changes but yet it still stays the same. However having said that I don't believe that SP can go the reincarnation route because it makes no sense. I don't see NS being the timeless lovers destined to part and reunite. I don't see Kalika as the indestructible villain that one has to be reborn to kill. Reincarnation also minimizes the other characters in the show and SP has never done that because all the other characters has lives they don't live for Nahar and Saloni.

I agree that reincarnation just doesnt blend into the story and as per the article the producer has denied it. All he said was there wld be a rejuvenation of characters/sets etc so hope its for the betterment. And very rightly said that other charac have their own lives and issues.

If the creators of the show don't understand the ratings started to drop with the introduction of bad ?kalika?. It appears the SP writers love Kalika because they beaten the thing to death. Having read the feedback/comments people are tired of the same old storylines, the only heroine being Saloni, the endless pain dished out to Saloni, the evil always getting away. The lack of develop maturity of the characters. The fact the Tara, Saloni and Ambika are destined to make the same mistakes over and over and after a while it becomes tiresome. Why that ridiculous rescue/saving of Aditiya by Saloni? Why punish Saloni? Why Kaveri and Tara got away free? Why torture and torment poor Nahar? Are these the punishment for good people while bad people are free to do what they please? Why the lost of the child to good people? NS is a mature couple enough of these breakups crap?..

The ratings thing is debatable and I never trust them. How can a random survey of a 1000 odd people define what lakhs of TV viewers want to see? Coming to the present track more than Kalika its the idea of senseless revenge which is undigestible and secondly children esp baby hold special place in people's heart so if they show Sal sulking and Tara being all cruel its not going to be appreciated. I agree that the Sal saving Advi was absurd and losing baby barbaric!😭 Tormenting both NS is harsh and heartless.

I agree that Saloni can defend herself however I believe the writers had a perfect opportunity to show the maturity of the other characters by stepping in and being the heroes for once. Tara could have shown maturity and character development by saying to massi that Saloni would never harm Aditiya?..Those profound words you mention would have a greater impact coming from Tara. The audience would have cheered ?It's about time??

Tara with maturity !😳yes its high time it happens but guess she sticks to her own I me myself syndrome. Its a cocoon which hasnt been broken as yet. Her world is Brij-Aditya and me. Nothing else matters to her.

Bhabo could have firmly told this woman deal with Kalika alone and leave the household to us you?re a guest in our home.

Why must Saloni fight for something that is not given freely? If the people who know her and love believe that woman's crap why fight? I am tired of her fighting for the love of that family.
So I agree with you it is time Nahar comes 1st. Let's see the wife and mother 'Saloni' to her family. Let her focus on that she has responsibility of her own. That must come first before Tara and her child....
I also agree they need to bring in someone like MB - I loved how she took no crap from Kaveri - she's an individual.
I agree no more 'stone' Saloni - eventually after all that pain and suffering real people become disillusion about life....
I wldnt say that Sal rate the relations but definitely do a rethink and define the extent to which she is going to be forbearing and kind. I wld want Sal to access the sitns realistically and act accordingly.

koolsadhu1000 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 17 years ago
#9
reality bites.....😊
Well im glad , producer has denied the reincarnation track . They shud read our forum and start the resurrection faster .
U know , i have encountered the explanation of women relating to helpless characters and like the wallowing in self pity types many times . I agree to it too . but i also feel that often indian women audience is greatly underestimated . They like seeing culture maintained , but they also like to see a good old family fight where good triumphs over wrong . Im very sure if Saloni is resurrected as above she will only get accolades . Howmuchever gharelu , homely , the women who watch SP are , they dont like seeing kaveri get away with everything . They definetely hate laali maasi types . And they definetely wish Tara is taught the lesson of her life . Sometimes the sticking to the formula thing becomes a rather obstinate and mindless attempt to stay put on the telly and very obvious Audience wants r absolutely ignored . I mean cmon......for the women audience , these serials r like popular WWF fights , where they cheer for the good and want to see it win . At the end of the day they have no option if all the serials show the same idiotic rubbish ......the lead heroine cying crying crying . And very often , the no option factor is conveniently overlooked by the creatives and they cover up mediocre creativity by saying ' we give the women wat they want . we r not here for the elite thinkers , we r here for common housewives .'
Give the housewives in India more credit , yaars .😆
187176 thumbnail
Posted: 17 years ago
#10
Do agree with you for me the more the problem is pathetic things they keep rerunning and no sense why would tara act like that and not understand saloni?? also why is saloni never happy like near the start they can think of tracks for other character..this is whats got boring

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".