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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indradhanush

Dear rooj

it s a matter of different perspective and that makes us see things in different frame, I find Nadia here making an attack when she says Abhijeet is mentally sick and we should pray for his mental health, his voice is so old that he is not fit to sing any more....then what about Atif...who is besura to the core...? She finds him sureela........??



Like I said I don't agree with her fully,
I don't agree with what she said about Abhijeet being mentally sick or too old. I don't agree with her in saying that Race was a hit because of Atif, the song might be but def. not the movie, or that he is sureela. Although she didn't say he was sureela, but i believe she believed him to be. But even if she didn't then i would like to say that don't accuse her of things that she didn't say.

But yes I do think she was a lot nicer than Abhijeet, she didn't ask people to go and attack him or say bad stuff about him. She asked them to pray for his health, let me tell you what we mean when we ask people to pray for someone's health, we mean it health in general. When I say to someone ke please app inke liye dua kijeye ya inki sehat ke liye dua kijeye then i mean it for their health. be it any kind of health. urdu is definitely a complicated language because there are hidden meanings behind one word at times.

So no she didn't really attack but defended. In a sense, the first attack came from Abhijeet and she just defended her country. I think any Indian would do the same if the attack was from pakistan. It is a common rule but yes, if the fight starts from one place then it is called an attack in a battle, while the other party defend and then you have the match of attack and defense...

but i agree your perspective might differ from mine but I will defend my points the way i'm seeing them here. And the way I see it, she behaved better than what Abhijeet did, a lot better. I would say the same if Alka said the same thing about Abhijeet. Like I said it is all about one's behavior, if you a great behavior, you are appreciated from the beginning but if you have a bad behavior then you are hated no matter how good you are in what you do. Like Salman and SRK, both are interesting people. There is a huge fan of SRK, much larger than Salman, and most of it is due to SRK's behavior. I know I like SRK better than Salman in a lot of ways.

That is how it is done in America, your presentation of yourself are the first thing looked at when you go for a Job position or an interview of any kind then they look at your skills.

PS: I don't know your name and don't like to begin something without addressing you properly. Please may i know your name or however you want me to address you? Thank You!
Edited by rooj-i - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I forgot to add...By this kind of behavior, like Abhijeet, you are not only hurting yourself but you are hurting your country. I know I wouldn't want anyone from my country to behave like that. That is one of the reason why I'm not liking our Country's president at the moment.

I know this much that I don't ever want Atif to reply back to Abhijeet in a rude manner because then it would be the same thing: dropping down to his level of mentality, which seems to be poor. I would def. don't want Atif to even compete in a singing competition because he would insult pakistan since he can't really sing.


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Posted: 17 years ago
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@ rooj


You can all me ID I am also a music buff like you...😛

I can't defend Abhijeet on all the issues (that is impossible task going by his long histrory of vitriolage) but I do agree with his comments on Atif. And fine opinion s differ but we can co exist so peace........😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indradhanush

@ rooj



You can all me ID I am also a music buff like you...😛

I can't defend Abhijeet on all the issues (that is impossible task going by his long histrory of vitriolage) but I do agree with his comments on Atif. And fine opinion s differ but we can co exist so peace........😊

@ID: Its not only about Atif its aboust Pakis' I mean Abhijeet is always demeaning them. And am truly ashamed of him being an Indian. As an Indian we must recognise others for their talent. If you would have noticed before Mussarrat was going to perform on the show he walked out saying he can't judge him/be on the show if Mussarrat is there. I mean whatz his problem? Being an Indian (Hindu) we are taught to respect all religions and countrymen but unfortunately he skipped that class. Hence even I pray for him to get his brains on track! 😳
Edited by rabby707 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I loved and support every single word that Nadia said 👏👏
I also love Atif 😳 and i think this is really unfiar to have such judgements against him !!!
TFS the Video 😃
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I loved and support every single word that Nadia said 👏👏

I also love Atif 😳 and i think this is really unfiar to have such judgements against him !!!
TFS the Video 😃

U mean u really beleived that Atif is behind the sucess of movie Race. Poor Abbhas mastan i thought they made brilliant movie. They must be shattered to know that they are not reason behind the success of movie. Saif ali's excellent work is nothing.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Is it joke or what that nadia khan said Atif is the reason behind the success of movie Race. I mean if u like atif then thats fine but i dont like overpraising and overrating. I do believe is atif have different voice, talented though little besura but just dont overpraise anyone. We should always praise someone to that extent where he or she deserved.

I Agree 100%...Well said .👏
Really..........?? I don't find the nicety there when she makes startling statements like :
singing show is a waste of time, Atif is a young Pakistani entrenching in Bollywood hence Abhijeet is insecure (does she mean Abhijeet has a competition from him ...?), pehli nazar (race) had a big role in making film hit (reminds of Rajesh Khanna saying similar thing for kuch to log kahenge for Amar Prem for Kishore).

And if this all was not enough she goes on to say that Abhijeet is mentally sick ( so we should pray for his mental sehat), is in pain , stress and complex (from whom...Atif........??), his voice is 60 years old (older physiologically than Abhijeet's age), doesn't suit any actor now and finally he has no future and is job less....fantastic
.............👏👏

I find her in the need of treatment more than Abhijeet.

Really..........?? I don't find the nicety there when she makes startling statements like :
singing show is a waste of time, Atif is a young Pakistani entrenching in Bollywood hence Abhijeet is insecure (does she mean Abhijeet has a competition from him ...?), pehli nazar (race) had a big role in making film hit (reminds of Rajesh Khanna saying similar thing for kuch to log kahenge for Amar Prem for Kishore).

And if this all was not enough she goes on to say that Abhijeet is mentally sick ( so we should pray for his mental sehat), is in pain , stress and complex (from whom...Atif........??), his voice is 60 years old (older physiologically than Abhijeet's age), doesn't suit any actor now and finally he has no future and is job less....fantastic .............👏👏

I find her in the need of treatment more than Abhijeet.

Very very well said...😉👏
Edited by bostanian - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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haha nadia khan herself does not have any credibility.

a perferct eg. is she invited misbah-ul-haq 4 her show. in the next epi near another guest she says misbah-ul-hq is sucha boring guy. she ivites people n thn makes fun of them. first she shud learn few thigs b4 pointing fingers at others. her commenst n not worthy at all.


if wht she says is true y spend crores on making a movie. make a c-grade movie n let atif sing all the songs the movie wil b a hit. wht an immature comment coming frm her.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indradhanush

@ rooj



You can all me ID I am also a music buff like you...😛

I can't defend Abhijeet on all the issues (that is impossible task going by his long histrory of vitriolage) but I do agree with his comments on Atif. And fine opinion s differ but we can co exist so peace........😊



ID, cool...

We were never at war but rather having an intellectual discussion...dont u agree?😉😛😃

@ rabby707

sorry if i may jump in...But even in Islam, it is taught that be respective to your enemy. Don't ever think about ill-treating them. If they are your prisoner then treat them like your guest rather than your prisoner. It is taught to us don't fight an unarmed man, don't insult your guest no matter how much you dislike, heck don't even think ill about them. We are taught to respect our enemy no matter what. It has been going on like that for ages but people mistook the meaning of it or just ignored the true meaning of Islam and today everyone detest the religion when it is not even the religion at fault here. It is simply a person's individual mind...

I think as a good human being, i wouldn't want anything to happen to abhijeet, even though he lost all the respect from me but i wouldn't want anything to happen to him. I would like him to change is views so I will pray for his mental health.

What he is doing is not only hurting himself but his country too. He can say all the things nicely too but the way he said about other artists about Pakistanis and other stuff is definitely not the way a nice sane person would say.

I would never want Atif to say something like that to him. better yet, I don't want Atif to even say anything because people who are not in the position to understand, there is no point in even thinking about them. My mom says to ignore such people because they are stubborn and not even worth your time.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

It was ofcourse not a respectful response if I genuinely see it from my perspective or thinking it is said against some normal artist but if I compare her response with what Abhijeet says against Pakistani singers including NFAK, RFAK, Nadia's response was respectful. In India, normal sane people follow "Atithi Deva Bhave". "Mehmaan jo hamara hota hai woh Jaan se payara hota hai"... Even in war time people respect the guests from enemy country.



that is how it should be done. If it was someone from Pakistan in Abhijeet's place then I would be very disappointed and speaking against him! That is no way to treat anyone, better yet your guest. You lose your self-respect like that and you are the villain in the whole situation rather than the one you consider to be. If you are the host then you should be a good host otherwise people lose interest in you and consider you bad.

I don't agree with what she said but the way she said is proper.
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