This film is terrible in every way possible. I had to rewatch KGF films to correct Yash's image or else I would have avoided his films in future. I want to see KGF 3, Rocky bhai once more.
Raja Krishnappa Bairiya - Once more on Big Screen.
You know I have been thinking about Raw,real , melancholic ache between Raya and Nadia...
You know that scene when Raya was set to marry Rebecca and still she went to meet Nadia who had stepped away and moved away from him simply bcz he could not live without her..Nadia tried to warn Raya but he was determined that he wanted that time with her ...and then they had this beautiful lovemaking moment...
And after that when they were sleeping cuddling...
Raya asked, "You have never asked me anything..Are you going to regret this?" It sounded almost like he was already beginning to regret the circumstances around it..not the intimacy, not Nadia, but the fact that he may not be able to give her the life she deserved..He knew the marriage to Rebecca was coming. He knew he was choosing a complicated path. And perhaps he was afraid that Nadia would eventually look back at this moment and feel that he used her or that she was only a temporary escape.
But Nadia's answer was beautiful because she didn't ask him for a promise.
She says, essentially:
"The Raya I have known and experienced is mine. Why would I regret loving him?"
That is such a mature understanding of love...
Without Raya telling her himself she understood the turmoil inside his heart...and she caressed his face and told him..
" You also don't regret anything ever"
She didn't pretend that Ganga doesn't exist. In fact, she acknowledged it herself:
"I know how much Ganga is important to you."
She understood the conflict.She knew she might not be the easy choice.She knew what was coming.
And yet she refused to call what they shared a mistake simply because life may not allow them to have a conventional future.
That's why Nadia's love felt so deep.
She wasn't trying to possess Raya.
She was simply accepting what existed between them.
This was probably the last time they were able to exist simply as Raya and Nadia.
No empire.No Ganga.No Rebecca.No obligations.
Just them.
And Nadia didn't demand anything from that moment.She lets it remain what it was:real.
That makes her later tragedy even more painful.
Because the woman who once said "I have no reason to regret the Raya I experienced" eventually had to live with years of absence and uncertainty.
And perhaps that is why Raya's question hurts so much in retrospect.
He asked whether she will regret him.She never did.
It is Raya who spent the rest of his life regretting that he couldn't give her more.
There was so much left unsaid between them. So much tenderness, longing, guilt and helplessness.
Originally posted by: asmitamohanty
You know I have been thinking about Raw,real , melancholic ache between Raya and Nadia...
You know that scene when Raya was set to marry Rebecca and still she went to meet Nadia who had stepped away and moved away from him simply bcz he could not live without her..Nadia tried to warn Raya but he was determined that he wanted that time with her ...and then they had this beautiful lovemaking moment...
And after that when they were sleeping cuddling...
Raya asked, "You have never asked me anything..Are you going to regret this?" It sounded almost like he was already beginning to regret the circumstances around it..not the intimacy, not Nadia, but the fact that he may not be able to give her the life she deserved..He knew the marriage to Rebecca was coming. He knew he was choosing a complicated path. And perhaps he was afraid that Nadia would eventually look back at this moment and feel that he used her or that she was only a temporary escape.
But Nadia's answer was beautiful because she didn't ask him for a promise.
She says, essentially:
"The Raya I have known and experienced is mine. Why would I regret loving him?"
That is such a mature understanding of love...
Without Raya telling her himself she understood the turmoil inside his heart...and she caressed his face and told him..
" You also don't regret anything ever"
She didn't pretend that Ganga doesn't exist. In fact, she acknowledged it herself:
"I know how much Ganga is important to you."
She understood the conflict.She knew she might not be the easy choice.She knew what was coming.
And yet she refused to call what they shared a mistake simply because life may not allow them to have a conventional future.
That's why Nadia's love felt so deep.
She wasn't trying to possess Raya.
She was simply accepting what existed between them.
This was probably the last time they were able to exist simply as Raya and Nadia.
No empire.No Ganga.No Rebecca.No obligations.
Just them.
And Nadia didn't demand anything from that moment.She lets it remain what it was:real.
That makes her later tragedy even more painful.
Because the woman who once said "I have no reason to regret the Raya I experienced" eventually had to live with years of absence and uncertainty.
And perhaps that is why Raya's question hurts so much in retrospect.
He asked whether she will regret him.She never did.
It is Raya who spent the rest of his life regretting that he couldn't give her more.
There was so much left unsaid between them. So much tenderness, longing, guilt and helplessness.
After watching some portions of raya and nadia in clips in social media again, I think director went towards the idea of forbidden love between both of them. Nadia is the one to make the first move and she knew he was engaged to rebecca, but the side glances she was giving while he was with rebaca and all should have made us cringe. But their chemistry is top notch.. how did she fall for him in first place they could have elaborated more. But lot of scenes cut i guess in editing.. the church scene being one example.. the small portions which they showed shines only because of their chemistry. Manmohaka song i thought it's for rebecca but it turned out it's for nadia
Originally posted by: asmitamohanty
Honestly, there is nothing left to make in Toxic 2. They have completed Raya's story.
I don't need another chapter or another sequel to explain everything. The emotional arc is already there guilt, trauma, love, loss and the consequences of everything Raya became.
I just wish they had executed a few things better, because there was such a rich, emotionally devastating story underneath all that spectacle...But despite its flaws, it touched me. And sometimes that's enough.
I connected with these characters, their guilt, their trauma, their love and their losses in a way I didn't expect...
I think im going to try and watch. But all the kissing and violence I cant watch w family right ?
Originally posted by: mahiwayyy
After watching some portions of raya and nadia in clips in social media again, I think director went towards the idea of forbidden love between both of them. Nadia is the one to make the first move and she knew he was engaged to rebecca, but the side glances she was giving while he was with rebaca and all should have made us cringe. But their chemistry is top notch.. how did she fall for him in first place they could have elaborated more. But lot of scenes cut i guess in editing.. the church scene being one example.. the small portions which they showed shines only because of their chemistry. Manmohaka song i thought it's for rebecca but it turned out it's for nadia
I agree about the "forbidden love" aspect....
But I don't think Rebecca makes it forbidden..she is obstacle..she is complication...but the real tragedy was the world Raya belong to and the loyalties he could not escape.
He's torn because Nadia is becoming his great love while he is still trapped inside a life he doesn't know how to leave.
In fact, I think the most "forbidden" thing about Nadia for Raya is that she gives him permission to imagine another version of himself.He can be tender.He can be vulnerable.He can desire something that has nothing to do with power.
Nadia directly told him that she doesn't need him to conquer anything for her. She just asks him to love her.
In short With Nadia, Raya encounters a version of himself that his world cannot accommodate.
And that is dangerous.
Because once Raya experiences life with Nadia..a Life away from the blood, power and mind games...he can no longer completely convince himself that the life he's built is all he wants.
Raya is tied to Ganga, Rebecca, Salvador's world, his sister's ambitions for him and the criminal structure that has made him who he is. Nadia exists completely outside of that. She is the woman who can take him away from all of it..not physically at first, but emotionally.
The real prohibition comes from Raya's world, his loyalties, his history and his own inability to step outside the identity he has built.
And yes ... the timing makes it even more forbidden: he falls completely for her when he is already bound to Rebecca and deeply entangled in Ganga's expectations.
So every beautiful moment between Raya and Nadia carries a shadow.They can be together, but they cannot be simple.
They can love each other, but they cannot love each other without consequences.
And I think that's why their chemistry has that melancholic quality .. There is always a sense that they are stealing moments from a future they may never be allowed to have.
Originally posted by: mahiwayyy
when tony and Elizabeth tries to execute nadia, raya interfere there and will say, if you are going to be burnt, then my hand will be on that match stick something like that as if it is future prediction for nadia life
Yeah...
In the end Nadia set herself on fire in a way and Raya became the fire that burnt her from inside and propelled her to that point...
Every conversation, though seemed random but looking back, is a layer of drama, leading or hinting at something...
I wish they had executed it better honestly...but still a very very compelling script...
Originally posted by: mahiwayyy
After watching some portions of raya and nadia in clips in social media again, I think director went towards the idea of forbidden love between both of them. Nadia is the one to make the first move and she knew he was engaged to rebecca, but the side glances she was giving while he was with rebaca and all should have made us cringe. But their chemistry is top notch.. how did she fall for him in first place they could have elaborated more. But lot of scenes cut i guess in editing.. the church scene being one example.. the small portions which they showed shines only because of their chemistry. Manmohaka song i thought it's for rebecca but it turned out it's for nadia
Also yeah That baptism scene with Nadia walking into the church has such a strange, almost sacred melancholy to it. Even without knowing whose baby is being baptised or the exact narrative context, the contrast is immediately there.. new life, innocence, ritual and redemption on one side; Raya and Nadia carrying secrecy, desire, violence and guilt on the other.
They look almost like intruders in a space built around purity...
Even their clothes..Nadia entered with a comparatively darker shade dress ...
And that makes another line in the movie "Love makes monsters of women"so interesting.
Because Nadia is not a "monster" by nature. She is arguably one of the most morally grounded people in Raya's world. But love places her in circumstances where she is forced to do something completely against who she is. She had to kill Ganga. She became complicit in violence simply because she loved this man and wanted to survive with her baby to be with the man she loves...
And perhaps that's what the core story is doing throughout the film.. turning Raya, Nadia and Ganga into almost mythological figures of Greek mythology, while keeping their emotional wounds deeply human...
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So....I watched this movie last night because of YouTube shorts Anyways, the FL Pooja is extremely annoying and irritating, her inferiority...
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