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Mujhe lagta hai ye Bharati dusri noina banegi 😂

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Yes, Yalina was a well thought out girl he picked when he felt it would help his mission. Yes, he fell in love with her for real somehow along the way. Both truths exist simultaneously.

To me though what matters is that even when he was perhaps not quite in love with her, he would still treat her more respectfully and with care than he perhaps needed. For example, he asks her to switch off her phone and go to his home when he needs to save Rehman. She listens to him no questions asked and does what she’s told. But once Rehman is rescued and he gets to go home, she decides to stay at his home. He doesn’t make her do that, he goes along with it and while he uses the opportunity to his advantage later on to get married to her, not once does he mention to her father that he has to get him married to his daughter as the world practically knows she’s being living with him without marriage. He doesn’t resort to defaming her to his advantage. Rather he appeals to the politician within her father and his obvious hunger for power to do the trick.

When he’s back home post 26/11, there’s an argument between them and she slaps him. This man has had a wretched day, he walks into his house and the first thing he faces is being screamed at, accusations of sleeping around and then a slap. He could have easily lost his cool and screamed at her, maybe slapped her back and intimidated her. Instead he simply gives her an ultimatum and an option. If she stays she can’t ask questions, and she doesn’t have to worry about ever sharing him with another woman ever. If she wants to keep asking questions, she’s free to leave. At that moment, the fight was definitely between a couple and not a spy and his unwilling asset. He wouldn’t have provided her that option if he felt she was imperative to his mission no matter what. He clearly was in his senses but his mood was still affected by the events. So whether or not he consciously realised it, he was in love with her in the first movie itself. He even has to come back home to her at the end of it. He doesn’t stay back to help out with Rehman’s funeral. He could’ve gained more brownie points for helping with the arrangements despite his obvious injuries but he didn’t. It’s a subtle parallel to him calling her post his fight with Iqbal. His first instinct is to call her.

Yalina may have started out as the perfect asset to cultivate, but she ends up being the woman he finds perfect for himself, someone for whom his love and affection is real. It’s proven when he shares his real name with her as that’s the only thing he can give of himself to her in this moment, the real him. His reaction to her calling him Jaskirat can’t be fake. It’s him breaking internally at the thought that this is the end - the one and the only time he would hear the woman he loves call him by his real name. She can cry loudly and sob her heart out, but his tears can’t even get that luxury. He can’t even make a noise because this call isn’t about him but her. He knows he may die after this and if this is all he can give her, he will - the chance to sob freely, the chance to let her know him. To tell her without using the words, that he loves her too. She wasn’t the only one.

Uzair had to pay and suffer for his crimes one way or another. What happens to someone who has clearly killed a lot of people really doesn’t bother me. I can’t bring myself to find sympathy for him when I saw that the man was actively cheering on when 26/11 happened, when he would chop off a person’s head and play football with it.

He had a chink in his armour, that’s all. Such people usually fall because of one. The difference is most get killed in a single fight, he’s going to die slowly. Besides, betrayal is only possible where trust exists.

Like I said, he made the perfect scapegoat. I wouldn’t have been blasé about him had he been a genuinely decent person or a simple ordinary person like the tea shop owner where Hamza Aalam went, say Omar, the cop who would ultimately threaten Yalina as despite everything, Omar was just an honest cop doing his job. He had not been shown as an evil man despite everything.

So his fate doesn’t bother me.

Not just that, I think while Yalina definitely started as an asset to reach his greater goal, she was a disposable thing to him. She was really someone who can help him with his mission while also being the one he could fall into. I don't think even he realised with she actually became his love, but he was his real girlfriend since start.

The biggest proof for that is the way he treated Jamali. He didn't know Jamali was an asset, for him he was a politician who could help him move forward but then he was also clearly his girlfriend's father since start. If you see he double crossed everyone but never plotted against Jamali. He even asked Jamali to switch into the Nawab Shafique side when he to move, although he didn't need to do that anymore. All the other characters including Rehman, Uzair, Iqbal, Aslam and even likes of Arshad Pappu spoke of him in a derogative manner, but Hamza always spoke of him respectfully.

I however was hoping that he is the same Jaskirat the husband of Kirti Kulhari's character in Uri(was very much possible for them to tweak the love story a bit in that way) but that is Ok, he finally got his real love even if he can't be with them anymore he can definitely protect them from afar just as he was doing for his mother and sister. It's clear he wouldn't have any more family with him. But then probably it would be same for Rizwan. Jamali now has to live his life seeing his widowed daughter and grandson knowing where her husband is but unable to do a thing. Don't want to talk about Alam, he was the purest soul.

About Uzair, I already said why I felt for him, he deserved punishment but at least he deserved to know he had been played hard and not remain in a constant hope.

To be honest I wouldn't have been even surprised had he actually been shown as an Indian agent, I mean not a proper asset like Hamza or Jamali, but kind of a mercenary who sold secrets for money. Like Atif Ahmed (or whatever the name of this character was in the movie) was for Pakistan.

To be honest the way they showed, it seemed a controversy theory can be made around it, like when Jamali shows his photo with Daud to Hamza about how he positioned Daud and the song Tirchi Topiwaale started, they also give a close-up of Uzair with a cunning look in the jail before shifting to Jamali's actions. His close-up seemed out of place unless there was more to it.

P.S. many say that actual Uzair was kind on doing things for India for money and had created many properties in Iran out of this, he as you had said in a previous post was linked to Kulbhushan Yadav, but later it was him who leaked info on Kulbhushan Yadav to Pakistan so as drop espionage charges against him (not sure how much that's true) that's why he was only punished for his local crimes and that too only 12 years in jail(though he had already spent 6 years in Dubai and Pakistan jails before that so maybe Total of 18) because otherwise even his local crimes were enough for him to get a death sentence or at least life imprisonment.

I don't want a third movie, because that wouldn't be able to match the legacy it would make this universe similar to YRF spyverse which is just milking for nothing. They have already finished the story so let it go, or else if they want make it kind of a web series on Jamali..

Feeling for Ranveer though, the first movie all the lime light went to Akshay Khanna and second movie it went to Rajesh Bedi sir

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Not just that, I think while Yalina definitely started as an asset to reach his greater goal, she was a disposable thing to him. She was really someone who can help him with his mission while also being the one he could fall into. I don't think even he realised with she actually became his love, but he was his real girlfriend since start.

The biggest proof for that is the way he treated Jamali. He didn't know Jamali was an asset, for him he was a politician who could help him move forward but then he was also clearly his girlfriend's father since start. If you see he double crossed everyone but never plotted against Jamali. He even asked Jamali to switch into the Nawab Shafique side when he to move, although he didn't need to do that anymore. All the other characters including Rehman, Uzair, Iqbal, Aslam and even likes of Arshad Pappu spoke of him in a derogative manner, but Hamza always spoke of him respectfully.

I however was hoping that he is the same Jaskirat the husband of Kirti Kulhari's character in Uri(was very much possible for them to tweak the love story a bit in that way) but that is Ok, he finally got his real love even if he can't be with them anymore he can definitely protect them from afar just as he was doing for his mother and sister. It's clear he wouldn't have any more family with him. But then probably it would be same for Rizwan. Jamali now has to live his life seeing his widowed daughter and grandson knowing where her husband is but unable to do a thing. Don't want to talk about Alam, he was the purest soul.

About Uzair, I already said why I felt for him, he deserved punishment but at least he deserved to know he had been played hard and not remain in a constant hope.

To be honest I wouldn't have been even surprised had he actually been shown as an Indian agent, I mean not a proper asset like Hamza or Jamali, but kind of a mercenary who sold secrets for money. Like Atif Ahmed (or whatever the name of this character was in the movie) was for Pakistan.

To be honest the way they showed, it seemed a controversy theory can be made around it, like when Jamali shows his photo with Daud to Hamza about how he positioned Daud and the song Tirchi Topiwaale started, they also give a close-up of Uzair with a cunning look in the jail before shifting to Jamali's actions. His close-up seemed out of place unless there was more to it.

P.S. many say that actual Uzair was kind on doing things for India for money and had created many properties in Iran out of this, he as you had said in a previous post was linked to Kulbhushan Yadav, but later it was him who leaked info on Kulbhushan Yadav to Pakistan so as drop espionage charges against him (not sure how much that's true) that's why he was only punished for his local crimes and that too only 12 years in jail(though he had already spent 6 years in Dubai and Pakistan jails before that so maybe Total of 18) because otherwise even his local crimes were enough for him to get a death sentence or at least life imprisonment.

I don't want a third movie, because that wouldn't be able to match the legacy it would make this universe similar to YRF spyverse which is just milking for nothing. They have already finished the story so let it go, or else if they want make it kind of a web series on Jamali..

Feeling for Ranveer though, the first movie all the lime light went to Akshay Khanna and second movie it went to Rajesh Bedi sir

I knew be wasn’t Uri’s JSR as the timeline itself wasn’t matching. Besides that would make the character someone who would cheat on women which would’ve not worked well with female viewers. This way though we can clearly analyse he was marking her strategically as a potential asset that could be useful later given her connections we see he was loyal to her, treated her way better than one would expect from a man in such a violent lifestyle. I think his respectful treatment of her is where Jaskirat is seen more than anything, the person not the spy. I say this because Sanyal clearly didn’t care if his spy slept around so long as he got his job done. He didn’t care how he treated the women in his life as long as some stupid mistake didn’t hurt their mission. That was all Jaskirat and his upbringing. We see how in the beginning as well while he’s ruthlessly eliminating the men in that family, but he never once hurts a child or even thinks of looking at a woman and hurting her the same way. His tit for tat didn’t involve assaulting a woman of that family like his sisters were. He was very clear and focused on punishing the culprits. The women are collaterals but then the outcome cannot be avoided when men go out there and do such deeds.

Hamza doesn’t know Jamali is one of his own, but his treatment of the man is again purposeful. He had already rattled the man when he got his daughter to be used against him, when he lived with her without marrying her. He didn’t need to antagonise him any further and worsen his situation anymore. After all he aimed to cultivate Jamali as an asset of his too by using his daughter as a means to establish a connection with the man that would ensure that he thinks twice before trying to dispose of him. He had rightly gauged Jamali as a powerful man and we see him telling Rehman if you must get ahead to acquire power then you should make friends with powerful people when Rehman was mulling the proposal of Khanani to enter politics. He couldn’t have known if his ploy to woo Yalina would work or not at the moment, had he seen she was attracted to him - absolutely, would it have to necessarily mean she falls for him? Certainly not. After all, he could try his best and still the girl may not fall for him. He however knew his mission and there was the goal of ruling Lyari and eventually Karachi but there was no roadmap. For all he knew someday he could be where Rehman was now and his roads would take him to the same destination aka politics when bloodshed no longer served adequately. It wouldn’t hurt him to have powerful friends of his own from all walks of life; marrying Jamali’s daughter was also his insurance just in case to see where he could get the man to help him out. Of course he never knew until the end that Jamali was in a way looking out for him for a very long time as it is. Besides, he never saw Jamali as being involved in anything that was anti-India. Was the man a weasel? A typical politician? Obviously, did he use and dispose of people? Yes. But had he hurt India in any way? No. I think that made the difference.

Yes, he was aware Yalina could be disposed. After all, she was being cultivated as an asset unbeknownst to her. But again, the difference lays in the way she reacted when she heard him out after his secret was out and the way Uzair would have reacted. Uzair wouldn’t care how many died in India given his reaction to 26/11. Yalina for all her patriotism didn’t justify the violence, didn’t deny the fact that these atrocities had been committed, these terrorists had carried out attacks on Indian soil and that they had no qualms in crushing their own people too which included children her son’s age when they poisoned the water of Balochistan that killed children in schools or when random Baloch kids would be picked up and targeted just for their ethnicity and nothing else. You also see when Yalina asks him to shoot her, he immediately ensures to hide the gun behind himself so that she doesn’t try to snatch it and unintentionally hurt herself. In the end when he gives her those tickets, that’s not a man who can even dream of disposing his wife anymore but unfortunately ends up having to abandon her for her own safety and that of their son’s.

In one of the Tiger movies, in the end Salman and Katrina elope and when his boss confronts him about the same he says - no one warned me she’s an enemy before I fell in love with her, once I did, I couldn’t understand why is she an enemy any longer.

Yalina is an ordinary girl but when Jaskirat meets her she’s a strategic asset he can develop as Hamza for his mission. The way he planned on wooing her is what makes the difference - he knew he was using her and she was a naive girl owing to her age who would be an easy mark. Over a decade, she’s his wife, the mother of his child and the woman he loves genuinely; truly an innocent person who has never hurt his people in any way whatsoever but their circumstances are not going to change owing to the reality of where they truly hail from and what led him down the road which ensured that their paths would one day cross and then separate.

Dhar isn’t painting a fantasy or even a version of a life that never will exist and be a reality… he’s ensuring his protagonist is as grey as he comes when he can be ruthless and kill them as need be, which includes his own handler turned friend and confidante. We are supposed to see his hero as a man who is in a messed up situation and he’s navigating a world where morality has no place or value as survival means everything. Morality can be a good thing but if it doesn’t help you survive, then what’s the point?

Jaskirat has to make choices that make us realise that this is not an easy life in any way. People can do things that one would normally frown upon but you gotta get your hands dirty if you must clean the gutters.

In the end we see how Jaskirat is a ghost who exists for no one… yet he survives. The tragedy is that he doesn’t have a say in his fate because he clearly loves his family on both sides of the border but he can’t be with either of them for their own sakes. And he’s been put in this situation because of people who would divide a country, commit one of the bloodiest mass murder sprees in human history perhaps and yet they can’t stop being monsters who want to destroy us. Their hate isn’t even justified because the basis isn’t any atrocity or crime committed against them but rather that they can’t handle we exist as who we are and their indoctrinated minds have no other goal than our destruction.

In the larger scheme of things Jaskirat is a victim of his circumstances too.

They and AryAnta

https://x.com/mannatkichabi/status/2043018287542603846

Nice pair. But the show is crap.

Originally posted by: Ajab.Pehchan

They and AryAnta

https://x.com/mannatkichabi/status/2043018287542603846

And I miss Purvi. This glam look may be nice, but I loved that innocent Purvi and her simple look. Their dynamics were the best then before her look change

https://x.com/gossipstv/status/2042626993796321447

Posted next chapter of my FF- Never Your Wife Again!!

Originally posted by: The_Best

I like this one on colors https://x.com/i__tweets/status/2035748687058702456

And I miss Purvi. This glam look may be nice, but I loved that innocent Purvi and her simple look. Their dynamics were the best then before her look change

Man after so long I am this excited for a ship. Don't care what's with storyline but aryaman ahana is sooo cute. Their scenes bring a smile on my face lol.

Me 🤣🤣❤️

The dragon reveal would be ahana not able to divorce Aryaman and whenever he would go next to radhika she would stop 🤣🤣

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

Man after so long I am this excited for a ship. Don't care what's with storyline but aryaman ahana is sooo cute. Their scenes bring a smile on my face lol.

Me 🤣🤣❤️

The dragon reveal would be ahana not able to divorce Aryaman and whenever he would go next to radhika she would stop 🤣🤣

Radhika is finally revealed as the dragon. So at least from now on there won’t Aryaman and her scenes anymore. No more friendship and caring scenes since she’s now a villain and no more a bechari dukho ki mari, but they killed yaman for her her when he was way more interesting to see than this mannequin. Not sure if this Kanika will even do a good job as a villain. Ekta is so in love with her