US & Israel vs Iran ongoing war discussion thread - Page 14

Originally posted by: Clochette

How does one knows that this is correct? (not contesting, just being curious)

Amount may vary, but the donation given to Iran is true.

Didn't saw their donations when Pahalgam happened.

No, it's not about accepting everything Muslims do and cuddle them... it's against generalizing and look first at another as a Muslim (e.g.) instead looking at the other as a human being... if those human beings constantly act against human rights, they act in a condemnable way (regardless the religion)... if always the same group of people do that, defining and defending their bad deeds with religion, then that doesn't change that there are first of all humans that has to be punished for the crimes they do.

That is my take.. so if another religion would get used to do very bad deeds, to me, it still would be the human who does the deeds.

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

With immense patience & coherence 👍

She hasnt really said anything directly to me so far so i have very much patience for her. At the same time, i understand where the others are coming from, its not hard to see their perspective. Thats why i have been trying to act as a middle ground between both sides. Now i just hope she understands what other side actually meant. And if she still doesnt then there is honestly only so much i can do.

One thing that really amazes me that some people cannot even ignore or block such posts they don't want to see rather want such posts to stop. On the other hand same people expect others, who are affected by terrorism, to close their eyes and not see terrorism and its root cause and God forbid discuss about them.

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

This was right after 26/11

https://x.com/i/status/2036252599868154026

Yess

I also posted this

I avoid going to that forum, bcoz how openly they comment against Hindus and India, and no action is being taken there. But only 1 person was commenting in our favour, so I posted.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/167785791

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

Look, Clochette, i have no problem with you but i want to address this.

First of all, you are german and you are atheist or dont believe in religion, thats fine. Thats your perspective. I have no issue with it. You have your opinions and others have theirs. Secondly, this is india forums nd we dont have any problem with you or any other foreigners sharing their opinions here. Its a public forum, so no one has the right to tell you not to speak, you have that freedom.

Now, coming to the next point, according to you, you dont believe in religion and again thats completely fine. But here in India, many people’s daily lives are affected by terrorism linked to certain groups. You may not have faced it so you might not fully understand it but many people here have. Even those who havent directly experienced it are part of a country that has been dealing with terrorism for a long time. Naturally, they want to discuss it so why should that be a problem for you??

Secondly, if you say this war isnt about religion then i strongly disagree. For many people, it is connected to religion. Even if the USA isnt actually fighting against islamic terrorism (like they have their own interest like controlling oil reserves), israel, in particular, is fighting against what it considers islamic terrorism and extremism. That, in itself, gives people the space to discuss these aspects. You may not see it as a religious issue but for others, including israel, it is. So its not for any one person to decide what this war is about.

If you dont want to be part of discussions about terrorism or religious extremism, thats completely fine, just dont engage in those topics. You can continue discussing what interests you, like war related topics, and others can discuss what they want, including terrorism and extremism.

I hope thats fair. There is no harm in keeping distance from topics you dont believe in and others can do the same.

You wrote well. You are not the first one that has tried with her. She got a whole thread locked

Why has she not been banned by now?

Originally posted by: PunnyPotato

Yess

I also posted this

I avoid going to that forum, bcoz how openly they comment against Hindus and India, and no action is being taken there. But only 1 person was commenting in our favour, so I posted.

I also posted on the movie in one the topics there.

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

She hasnt really said anything directly to me so far so i have very much patience for her. At the same time, i understand where the others are coming from, its not hard to see their perspective. Thats why i have been trying to act as a middle ground between both sides. Now i just hope she understands what other side actually meant. And if she still doesnt then there is honestly only so much i can do.

Like I have said before too, the one thing that goes in her favour is that she's usually polite in her replies. I'll give her that. But that's where the positives end for me

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

You lack the intellectual capacity she possesses. Thoda aur intellectual, liberal and most importantly peaceful bano fir samajh aayega fault lies in you not her posts or writing style

Ha ha, error ...she can accept when doing faults... had done it already... and she has no qualms to do so repeatedly... and no, I'm not someone who thinks what you write in the first line... you still are stuck in your bias

Originally posted by: Clochette

No, it's not about accepting everything Muslims do and cuddle them... it's against generalizing and look first at another as a Muslim (e.g.) instead looking at the other as a human being... if those human beings constantly act against human rights, they act in a condemnable way (regardless the religion)... if always the same group of people do that, defining and defending their bad deeds with religion, then that doesn't change that there are first of all humans that has to be punished for the crimes they do.

That is my take.. so if another religion would get used to do very bad deeds, to me, it still would be the human who does the deeds.

Bro you are one of the few who talk nicely.

But let me tell you, honestly, India and Hindus really have close to no reason to even treat Muslims like humans after all the shit they have done in the past and continue to do in everyday basis.

Still, we tolerate them

There is literally close to no 0 case where a Hindu has peed in a mosque or thrown pork.

But every other day, there is a case where Muslims kill cows, throw them in temples, and pee in temples and get away with it without any punishment in the name of insanity.

There is literally not even one post on this forum itself where a Muslim said what happened with Tarun was wrong, but we did see posts insulting Priyanka even when she did post for PlayStation.

Unlike us, who do call out if Hindus do wrong and even call out Modi.

Rather are called andhbhakt, but if I reply that person calling them andhnamzi, their ego gets hurt and I am being called insulting their religion but never them for the shit they say.