Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 39 - Page 18

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Welcome back finally you made a post S❤️

Everyone is behind killing DK and I am rooted for making him a villain against everyone's wishes and escaping all the brooms 🙈. I was just telling Roch , I am tired of the all female villain gang and need a male villain

Me wanting DK to turn out psycho doesn't mean a free pass for Vikrant. I still hate the fact they made Vikrant CA Mannat. To top everything the writers aren't even focusing on Vikrant or Mannat's perspective regarding what happened 7 years ago. Instead their sole focus is on side characters and UV.

Hopefully since we are back in Mumbai there will be some story movement 🤞

Hi RD. I was happy to see you in Mannat forum. I think you left ghum after leap or during shruti track itself? Didnt see you for the longest time there.

I am not watching mannat at all now. Will just lurk in X on AyeshaSingh tag. And read updates here now and then. I hate the colors writers. They dont know abc of writing

How is UV Vikrant's son? He wants proof in everything but never asked anything about photoshoot. What did UV do , who cleaned the set or what happened there nothing. He was such an ideal man once, why did he let useless UV to be the model of that show , he is not even a participant. He is looking like blinded by UV. UV doesn't even call him papa. But he claims UV changed his life...blah ..blah...what did UV do to him that he is so grateful to him. I am seeing nothing here.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Hi RD. I was happy to see you in Mannat forum. I think you left ghum after leap or during shruti track itself? Didnt see you for the longest time there.

I am not watching mannat at all now. Will just lurk in X on AyeshaSingh tag. And read updates here now and then. I hate the colors writers. They dont know abc of writing

After leap I tried , but couldn't take favorite Didi so gave up and then came back for final episode to see how they die

Mannat, Really wish the writers are not so scared of exposing villains to Vikrant. At this point it looks like they won't pay head to viewers and will continue to keep Vikrant in dark and Mannat will figure out everything in one go. They really can't think of anything beyond this story line for 1 year. The writing is really bad if you can still call it writing

Originally posted by: Rdigest

DK turning evil is more than balancing. My question would actually be with the way he conducted himself pre-leap being a cop and post-leap confession why can't he turn negative? Why are we against DK turning negative? We keep comparing him to Malla, if Malla can turn obsessive why not DK, how is he special? Does him being with fl make him special in anyway? Why can't some viewers wish for DK being negative because of what was shown and perceived by these set of viewers?

Bold, aren't these 2 statements contradicting?

About tainted wealth I won't get into details , since other users already commented on this and why I don't think he believes he did anything wrong there. For me with regards to wealth, him taking RoTu's I was ok since Vish asked for it and he was doing this for his mom, him asking for Mannat's shares I was not ok, since Mannat's shares were not his to take.

I have never compared him to malla, her character started out well but it was pure train wreck. I cant even call her obsessive because she didnt have any particular goal to become obsessed. Anyone can wish for him to become evil, but one cant force it on others. As for me, I will see if I get some signs from him. Till now, I am not getting anything particular, his graph is going in a way I was expecting so will see in future.

I dont think anyone treats him any special or worships him. Just because some arent necessarily writing posts after posts dragging him doesnt mean he is fan favorite. He has become an integral part because he now has major contribution in Dua's parenting. Its now upto writers whether to make him negative or positive or grey zone. People can co exist. Some have already assumed him as biggest villian and they will keep operating on that & some like me, who dont mind him much, have no issues with anything. At the end, its on team.

I did not contradict on Dua. In my first sentence I talked about Dua accepting Vikrant and balancing both him and dk. In my previous post I said, for Dua, accepting Vikrant in her world will be easier than cutting off nasty dk who has been an integral part of her life till now.

In my second sentence, the context of that acceptance and cutting off was how an adult dk accepted that Vishakha was evil to extreme and cut her off. Similar way we are expecting a 6 year old dua, who is in her formative age, accept that her foster father is evil and cut him off.

Tainted in the sense, so many people are behind that wealth, so many crimes have happened just to get hands on it.

Originally posted by: Moor278

A question....

Chalo mann liya DK villain hai... ya phir pehle se tha...

Usse kya farak padega???

Does Vikrant gets redeemed automatically???? Just by simply making DK a villain will Vikrants all error in judgements become right then???

And it makes Mannat look like a fool, isn't it????

So instead of one lead who is foolish, we now have both leads as foolish???🙄🙄🙄

What a sad sad prospect for the show and its characters!!!! 🤦‍♀️

Doesn't this prove my initial point that they dont need to bring down DK to elevate Vik????🤦‍♀️

Would the objection to DK be this loud and dismissive if he had been Bade papa/Mama or something similar???? I dont think so... in that scenario the same people who are bashing him now would have put him on a pedestal.. for helping the family in need.

So the problem is clearly him being a threat for Vikrant and not so much as Duas Baba. And he is threat only because he is a good guy. Nobody considers Malla or Y as a threat to Mannat 😜

Also why cant Vik be better than someone who is good instead of Vik who is a better than someone who is bad???😉

Which is a more rewarding option as a ML????

This is what I am trying to say ... Mannat is any day better than Malla/Y because they are horrible. Viks redemption would be even more enriching if he turns out better than someone who is good.

Mannat has to do bare minimum while Vik has to climb Everests.

How can ML fans have an objection to a worthwhile redemption??? 🤔

And if anyone thinks its not possible then its lack of trust on the PH... not DKs fault 😝.

DK is a mere character. Why target him and his 'supposed' lawyers again and again????

This whole show has become all about Dk due to the insane amount of attention people are giving to him. He is just a hurdle for Vikrant, kinda like malla, yashika for Mannat. He is tougher because how his character is cemented and his characteristics.

One of the reasons why people want him to turn extreme negative so that they all can mock Mannat that how she fell flat on her face, Vikrant was always right about him, then he will be knight in the shining armour for trapped Mannat and she will be like, I'm sorry Vikrant, I should have never trusted evil dk over you. Please forgive me.

What are we? 5?

Why people do not want a good, long redemption for Vikrant who is a male lead? Why cant people wanna watch him go through phases where he will learn some harshest truths about people around him? Why they do not want him to introspect? Vikrant's redemption should be focused on him alone. It shouldnt be dependent on whther dk turns negative or positive.

In reality, Vikrant is not against Dk. He is against his past self. He has to be a better version of his past self who made mistakes. Dk is not his competition, he is his hurdle. His true competition is his blinded, manipulated self.

I said in my previous post, makers have kept a balance by giving the leads the people who have same temperament as them. Dk has made mistakes, so do rotu, mannat but they all have kept that all aside to concentrate on Dua. Mannat appreciates him because he has been one of the integral reasons of Dua turning out to be such an amazing kid. Everyone aint appreciating him just because he sticks with Mannat, but its a fact that he has his share of good deeds, esp regarding Dua.

Vikrant is now gonna get a whole competition to form his individual bond with his own kid. This is how he will reconnect. People should be little patient. Vikrant will come around. His redemption can be achieved without degrading dk, that will be just a hogwash.

Originally posted by: Kidult104

I have never compared him to malla, her character started out well but it was pure train wreck. I cant even call her obsessive because she didnt have any particular goal to become obsessed. Anyone can wish for him to become evil, but one cant force it on others. As for me, I will see if I get some signs from him. Till now, I am not getting anything particular, his graph is going in a way I was expecting so will see in future.

I dont think anyone treats him any special or worships him. Just because some arent necessarily writing posts after posts dragging him doesnt mean he is fan favorite. He has become an integral part because he now has major contribution in Dua's parenting. Its now upto writers whether to make him negative or positive or grey zone. People can co exist. Some have already assumed him as biggest villian and they will keep operating on that & some like me, who dont mind him much, have no issues with anything. At the end, its on team.

I did not contradict on Dua. In my first sentence I talked about Dua accepting Vikrant and balancing both him and dk. In my previous post I said, for Dua, accepting Vikrant in her world will be easier than cutting off nasty dk who has been an integral part of her life till now.

In my second sentence, the context of that acceptance and cutting off was how an adult dk accepted that Vishakha was evil to extreme and cut her off. Similar way we are expecting a 6 year old dua, who is in her formative age, accept that her foster father is evil and cut him off.

Tainted in the sense, so many people are behind that wealth, so many crimes have happened just to get hands on it.

Bold 1 definitely, I don't believe anyone made posts forcing everyone to agree to this opinion. This is me only reading half the posts who agree DK is the problem . This is why I always highlight freedom of speech and everyone has a right to stick to their opinions and we do not have to agree with others unless we are convinced otherwise with the debates.

Contradicting I meant, we are expecting Dua to balance like Mannat did when she was 25+ old , but at the same time the 2nd statement talks about how can we expect Dua to match a 30+ year old to accept and let it go. If Dua is mature enough to do 1 , she is mature enough to do 2.

"About Dua, she can balance both, just like how Mannat did.

Now we are keeping dua, a 6 year old kid with dk, a dcp, 30+ years old, in terms of acceptance and letting go. "

Anyways, it depends on what writers (if there are any left ) want to show irrespective of anything forum says or wants.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Hi, some of you might know me from ghum days. I still chat with some of my friends here about Mannat. I started watching it for Ayesha and followed it for a while before slowly switching off...now also I get sucked...only to see if this show survives for the sake of Ayesha. She is putting sincere efforts.

I read the updates now and then, mostly by my ghum friends Moor, Scar and Cooly. We all shared ghum trauma together and have discussed endlessly about redemption, worthiness and being accepted by their soulmate. Hence, coming for that space and to add my two cents to a badly crafted story. Not that I am an expert, but giving some perspective on how leads should be written based on my limited writing experience...

1. DK becoming negative will not make Vik better. If he proves even equal to current DK, he will look superhero. Making DK evil only means Vik gets everything by fate...not because he deserves it. Mannat and Vik can be both wrong. But coming from previleged place, vik abused his power and money. period. He is MORE wrong morally.

2. Given the reputation of the writers, who do not understand how to write real human characters who are mostly grey, they might spoil DK. It will be so toxic then because Dua will be collateral damage in this mess. The girl loved DK. Having a kid subjected to such a trauma shows the writers dont care about emotions!

3. The best possible way to bring back the focus on the leads is to kill DK while saving Dua. May be he can confess to Mannat before that....so Mannat will be heartbroken over DK's death. Not love, just indebtness. Then slowly make Vik stand by her and his kid. He might never be able to replace DK in Dua's life but the kid being only 7 years old and Vik shown patient with her....there is a hope and hence deep rooting from the audience to wish for his full acceptance from Dua. Mannat will anyway accept him.

Can these writers write such emotionally charged plots, I doubt. But they can try! For that to happen, first they have to somehow kill all the vamps in a bombblast. And let UV's OG parents come and take away UV. Vik will get some sympathy to start with and they can implement point 3. and stretch it for an year...

If the writers are lurking here, please consider it. Trust me you will get more TRPs.

PS: Finally posted it! cant see the trauma of fans here.

Welcome to the Mannat forum

Originally posted by: Kidult104

This whole show has become all about Dk due to the insane amount of attention people are giving to him. He is just a hurdle for Vikrant, kinda like malla, yashika for Mannat. He is tougher because how his character is cemented and his characteristics.

One of the reasons why people want him to turn extreme negative so that they all can mock Mannat that how she fell flat on her face, Vikrant was always right about him, then he will be knight in the shining armour for trapped Mannat and she will be like, I'm sorry Vikrant, I should have never trusted evil dk over you. Please forgive me.

What are we? 5?

Why people do not want a good, long redemption for Vikrant who is a male lead? Why cant people wanna watch him go through phases where he will learn some harshest truths about people around him? Why they do not want him to introspect? Vikrant's redemption should be focused on him alone. It shouldnt be dependent on whther dk turns negative or positive.

In reality, Vikrant is not against Dk. He is against his past self. He has to be a better version of his past self who made mistakes. Dk is not his competition, he is his hurdle. His true competition is his blinded, manipulated self.

I said in my previous post, makers have kept a balance by giving the leads the people who have same temperament as them. Dk has made mistakes, so do rotu, mannat but they all have kept that all aside to concentrate on Dua. Mannat appreciates him because he has been one of the integral reasons of Dua turning out to be such an amazing kid. Everyone aint appreciating him just because he sticks with Mannat, but its a fact that he has his share of good deeds, esp regarding Dua.

Vikrant is now gonna get a whole competition to form his individual bond with his own kid. This is how he will reconnect. People should be little patient. Vikrant will come around. His redemption can be achieved without degrading dk, that will be just a hogwash.

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Vik is the ML of the show... if he cant be redeemed then why are we even watching. Thats like people dont have trust on the makers 🤦‍♀️

The other thing is unlike other shows this leap is a classic MU. And its been written nicely that we are still discussing who went wrong and where.

It has potential to be resolved without destroying the leads.

Mannat (as per her information) thinks Vik rejected Dua... similar to how and his biological mom did. But thats not the truth and the audience knows it.

Duas truth is a domino.. thats why they are prolonging the expose.

Once it starts coming out, things will start falling into place. A small step has been made in that direction now.

I am enjoying the fact that everyone keeps discussing DCP more than the leads!!!!

Sab keh sab uske piche pade hai…. The problem I have is no one is able to digest a “good male role model”.

Deep rooted issues but everyone still wants flawed man for the heroine even though he has repeatedly CA her; unfortunately male and female friendships is also not everyone cup of tea neither is one sided love with respectful boundary!!

it’s so pathetic that DCP will eventually be killed or turned negative just to make selfish obnoxious ML worthy of FL not because he would genuinely change …

Honestly I do t even see the pull between Mannat and Vikrant anymore.. even father daughter scenes with Dua and Vik are lacking the bond. I don’t know why I would root for Vikrant … just because it’s played by Adnan and he has good chemistry with Ayesha 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️