Seher Hone ko Hai: Episode Discussion thread 1 - Page 49

Originally posted by: Phoenix100

She doesn’t think it illegal it is illegal as per the laws of India. Infact the government has been planning to raise the minimum age of marriage of girls to 21. So this marriage is illegal as per the law.

21 is too much. I think the right age should be 18. Coz in our culture we aren't allowed to have a relationship with guys unless we are married. And rising marriage age to 21 may cause repression and other psychological problems.

Originally posted by: Darkxmatter

first I am not talking about Seher specifically. Even in Muslims laws forced marriage if forbidden.

secondly are you sure ?! check the law books again.

Yes. Forced marriage is forbidden in Islam. But how can Mahid and his family know that Seher was against it, when she herself said : Qubool infront of all.

Originally posted by: awida

21 is too much. I think the right age should be 18. Coz in our culture we aren't allowed to have a relationship with guys unless we are married. And rising marriage age to 21 may cause repression and other psychological problems.

I disagree with this take. So many girls are forced to quit their education because of marriage at such young age. I am a muslim myself and I support raising the marriage age to 21. Sometimes extreme measures are required to tackle certain issues in the society. Atleast with 21 cutoff, many parents will have no choice but send their daughters to colleges. In my place , 20 is bare minimum. Girls don’t get married until they are well into their 20s or even late 20s.

Originally posted by: Darkxmatter

first I am not talking about Seher specifically. Even in Muslims laws forced marriage if forbidden.

secondly are you sure ?! check the law books again.

Muslims are not exempted from this law. I have personally seen people conducting Nikah and then waiting till the girl turn 18 to get the marriage registered.

And if you think forced marriages shouldn’t be a thing, then why do you want seher and kausar to accept this?

Originally posted by: awida

Yes. Forced marriage is forbidden in Islam. But how can Mahid and his family know that Seher was against it, when she herself said : Qubool infront of all.

But rest of Mahid's family has nth to do with it. If they knew Nazima, foopi or Nazima's father would not allowed the marriage.

Originally posted by: Phoenix100

Muslims are not exempted from this law. I have personally seen people conducting Nikah and then waiting till the girl turn 18 to get the marriage registered.

And if you think forced marriages shouldn’t be a thing, then why do you want seher and kausar to accept this?

And even if what you say is true. It is diff from state to other.

For your info a marriage in Muslims laws is complete when it is made in public . And the groom take permission of marriage from the woman guardian (father, brother, uncle, ... etc) . And the bride should accept it. Registration or not is just formality. Because the community will hold him accountable.

Seher started to accept this marriage. As for her mother if the guardian (father) and the daughter accept .she doesn't have a say in it.

Originally posted by: Phoenix100

I disagree with this take. So many girls are forced to quit their education because of marriage at such young age. I am a muslim myself and I support raising the marriage age to 21. Sometimes extreme measures are required to tackle certain issues in the society. Atleast with 21 cutoff, many parents will have no choice but send their daughters to colleges. In my place , 20 is bare minimum. Girls don’t get married until they are well into their 20s or even late 20s.

- the alternative to marriage is the major sin route (intimate relations outside of marriage).

- if a woman ready biologically . And accept to marry it is the right choice over anything else

- I know many who marry . And continue there edu.

- Women fertility start to fade from 30 y. So if society want to grow in quantity. Early acceptable marriage is must.

- European have society growth problems because os such mindset like what you describe (late marriages).

- same in Japan, Korea.

- in USA, euro Alternatives to marriage are single moms. Or ellegitimate children everywhere.

- women career should not be priority over marriage live.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

Only dadajaan knew Seher is 16. And he also knew Mahid hates underage marriage, that is why he did the conspiracy with Parvez. Forgery, illegal marriage etc. Now crime bole toh dadajee is a mufti ...not only govt rule he will be punished by the shariah law too for hiding truth from the groom , allowing a farzi birth certificate, forcing a Kazi to allow such a forbidden marriage where groom didn't know the truth and wife was forced...uparse he is a mufti. Baaki Jo torture Kawsar ke Saath hua uska punishment both Parvez and Muftjee will get. Yes, dada will also get. He is no ordinary man, a leader.He misused his power this way?

But rest of Mahid's family has nth to do with it. If they knew Nazima, foopi or Nazima's father would not allowed the marriage.

DadaJan didn't know she does not accept the marriage. But yes he know Mehid. And made the forgery for his best interest from his prespective.

Now even seher in in the conspiracy after the last published episode. If she came clear about her age in private with mehid after the party. He will understand more about her scape motive. And she will have leverage against him to help her later when she need it.

For example when she want to complete her education . And want to become doctor.

Originally posted by: Darkxmatter

And even if what you say is true. It is diff from state to other.

For your info a marriage in Muslims laws is complete when it is made in public . And the groom take permission of marriage from the woman guardian (father, brother, uncle, ... etc) . And the bride should accept it. Registration or not is just formality. Because the community will hold him accountable.

Seher started to accept this marriage. As for her mother if the guardian (father) and the daughter accept .she doesn't have a say in it.

Guardian's permission is not compulsory in Islam as Islam has no kanyadan. If parents permit, fine. Or else it is man and woman who decides.

In this case the entire wedding is illegal. The girl was threatened, her mother was kidnapped and thus forced. Mahid openly declares that he hates underage Shaadi, still it was kept secret from him. That means he too can apply for a talaq or nullification of marriage. In some cases groom can even get a refund ( denmohar . He doesn't have to give that).

+ Registration, wovi written registration is compulsory in Islam. A husnad can't touch his wife without that( as per law).

Community is not important than bride and groom in Islam. Allah ke naam pe Shaadi hota hai. Aur Allah ke samne jhoot, farzi... Major crime.

Originally posted by: Darkxmatter

DadaJan didn't know she does not accept the marriage. But yes he know Mehid. And made the forgery for his best interest from his prespective.

Now even seher in in the conspiracy after the last published episode. If she came clear about her age in private with mehid after the party. He will understand more about her scape motive. And she will have leverage against him to help her later when she need it.

For example when she want to complete her education . And want to become doctor.

+ It was he who knew this, still made the Kazi register an illegal marriage certificate wovi Allah ke naam se...( Bismillah likha hota hai Bhai...big sin)...his mufti post can be snatched.

Govt bole toh jail, financial punishment all can happen. Both Shariah law and Govt law will punish him.

Now Seher or Mahid has it in their hand.

Sp Mahid Jo gala phad phad ke fekta hai naa nyay ka avatar etc...aab dekhte hai keya katega Banda jab uska dadajee sabse bara gunehgaar.