Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 37 - Page 55

Originally posted by: truptishree

Witty

I really wonder do you even read my posts properly or you just say anything because I am ML fan?

I can say the same about you that you are being FL’s blind fan don’t even acknowledge her share of mistakes. At least we ,can’t say about others but at least me and I can say that proudly as his supporters acknowledge his flaws and wants him to repent for his mistakes though he did those some unintentionally, in his anger and wants to see his redemption.

But you never say anything about Mannat or for you she can never do anything wrong ? In fact she is also responsible for this mess.

She should’ve never supported RoTu and DK and told truth to Vikrant. When she had the first hand experience of betrayal from her own mother . Please don’t give me this crap that she wanted to save him from pain. She dealt with that pain and being an adult he should’ve done that. Being a partner she should’ve been there for him to support him in his difficult times.

Tell me honestly is Mannat really that transparent with him?

Till now she always hide the important stuff from him. She told Gagan that ARS is her mom but not to Vikrant. She never told ARS’s Kaands to him. Again don’t bring that saboot card.

Why every time she assumed that he will ask for proof? Despite having proofs against ARS also she never told him the truth.

Trust always goes both ways. It’s not one way where only one person have to show it and other don’t.

In fact ManVik lacks this basic thing in their relationship and that is transparency. It’s not even about trust but it’s about hiding and lying about things.

You only see Mannat’s suffering but why can’t you see Vikrant’s suffering?

At least I have the guts to accept his share of mistakes and wants to see him grovel for it despite him not entirely responsible for it. But i have never seen you doing it.

You just love to comment against whoever comes in support of Vikrant. Like I said everyone did mistakes and suffering for it and the choices they made at that time. I want to see everyone acknowledging their mistakes and mend their ways be it Vikrant or Mannat even RoTu and DK also.

Not just Vikrant but all these people also need to rectify their mistakes regarding Vikrant. Only Vikrant is not at fault they all are.

And I am not at all absolving Vikrant for his mistakes but I will definitely absolve him regarding Dua because he definitely deserves her love and respect as a father and she also deserves it equally. He should pay for his mistakes but at the same time I do want whoever responsible for this mess they should also pay for it and that includes Mannat , RoTu and DK also and even all the vamps🤬

And one more thing though ARS did everything for Malla but you just can’t discard her hatred towards Mannat . Even before knowing truth about Mannat she did try to kill Shruti only because of her hatred towards her kid whom Shruti saved. So yes ARS did everything just to get rid of Mannat and to give her pain and tried to destroy whoever supported her🤬

And one more thing why you only want to clobber Vikrant? Include DK and Mannat also in it. Don’t worry I will get chappals thrown at me and I will join you. In fact Mannat also deserves but I will let her go. More than her it’s DK who deserves it for not doing his duty properly regarding ARS and his good for nothing mom Vish🤬

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Bold: this is what I want dearly, but Voldemort is already proved that she has no intention in exposing the past, nor getting the vamps to face karma/punishment and 3rd marriage for Vikrant is almost certain I think.

ARS Truly has inexplicable amount of hatred for Mannat. More than you and I can even imagine. Same time,she is obsessed about Nalla.

Only evil is winning and trust exists only between the villains in this show. Mannat having seen Vikrant’s outbursts sadly thought he couldn’t handle the truth. Neetu and she treated him as a grown child who couldn’t hear the truth.

Unless TRP goes down, we probably won’t see the past issues settled & if colors suddenly axes the show, we will never see proper redemption by Vikrant nor anyone else’s.

Right now, they are just wasting time flying kites, burning bonfires & having cooking competitions.

This show is looking like a rudderless boat randomly floating in the sea with no logic nor justice nor punishment to those who deserve it.

Originally posted by: Daman17

A thought came to my mind like all the major kaands before the leap were done by Malla and Vish, but post-leap, the writers have reduced them to a joke. I also notice that Sharain doesn’t shoot as often now and seems to have many days off in between. If this was the plan, they should have retained the other cast members as well and they could have joined the SM circus too, and it would have felt nice to see familiar faces. They brought in Yuvi, and suddenly another chapter girl was introduced, who is using someone else’s child to get close to a man who isn’t even that child’s father. The writing feels absurd. Malla and Vish are currently just props, and Y is like a leech, constantly hanging around Vik along with Yuvi. This entire plot is nothing but cringe. Yuvi, too feels like just another prop being used by Y to stay close to Vik. Overall, whatever the writers wanted to project through Vik’s life has failed miserably. Y has been given importance in Yuvi’s life and she appears more like a mother even though the child belongs to someone else. It’s unrealistic that a child would listen to a third person so easily, especially when Y isn’t even related to Malla, nor do they share a strong bond for Yuvi to genuinely feel warmth or attachment. Poor writing has led to chaos in execution.

Daman aapka post samajh nahee ayaa 🙈 are you saying they lost the plot or that they have a bigger shock for viewers through Y and UV

Ayesha and Swati IV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc2hUQASD3k

Originally posted by: Daman17

A thought came to my mind like all the major kaands before the leap were done by Malla and Vish, but post-leap, the writers have reduced them to a joke. I also notice that Sharain doesn’t shoot as often now and seems to have many days off in between. If this was the plan, they should have retained the other cast members as well and they could have joined the SM circus too, and it would have felt nice to see familiar faces. They brought in Yuvi, and suddenly another chapter girl was introduced, who is using someone else’s child to get close to a man who isn’t even that child’s father. The writing feels absurd. Malla and Vish are currently just props, and Y is like a leech, constantly hanging around Vik along with Yuvi. This entire plot is nothing but cringe. Yuvi, too feels like just another prop being used by Y to stay close to Vik. Overall, whatever the writers wanted to project through Vik’s life has failed miserably. Y has been given importance in Yuvi’s life and she appears more like a mother even though the child belongs to someone else. It’s unrealistic that a child would listen to a third person so easily, especially when Y isn’t even related to Malla, nor do they share a strong bond for Yuvi to genuinely feel warmth or attachment. Poor writing has led to chaos in execution.

The writing for vik and his side is so absurd and on the other side for mannat's side it is relatively more detailed.. It feels like it's two different writers dealing with their stories... Even if it's different writers...theh usually discuss with each other to maintain balance in stroy...

I thought from vik side atleast gagan will be there to tell vik's pov to audience... Mannat's backstory and her struggles are made clear by herself or other characters like dk, ronnie.... But from vik's side there is no one to show his struggles nor is there any backstory as to what happened with him in the 7 years, how vik got so attached to yuvi and how, why, when did yash enter his life... Nothing related to his past, that's why we are finding it difficult to understand him or his emotions...

Originally posted by: Daman17

I meant that the Indore side is clear and comes across well in execution, but the SM side has failed miserably, at least according to me, they lost the plot in writing and execution both for this side.

Why do you want more clarity from Mumbai side . Trust me you won't like the calrity they will give us once Vikrant sees Mannat, Dua with DK 🙈

Only person I miss though is Gagan, it's like 1 man and multiple witches at the moment in SM 😨

Originally posted by: Daman17

The ones who wove webs of conspiracies and separated the entire family before the leap with so many saazishen have been reduced to a joke post leap. They are now added only for useless filler scenes, while Y has been projected as a big time villain, even taking an oath to destroy Mannat 🙃🙃 Salaam to the writers like have they forgotten what they wrote earlier and started writing something completely different now😂 I don’t wanna see details but at least some consistency with writing and execution.

Any doubt kyaa these are all different writers

Like you I wondered too why didn't they get all the property and kick Vikrant out when they had PA , what were they waiting for

Even with Y I am glad they don't give much clarity and just keep giving random scenes. I not only dislike the character but dislike the actor aswell , so the not focusing on her kind of helps me

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Exactly, these are all the reasons why they wanted to create the conflict to bring in the leap at any cost.

Else Mannat should have been there for Vikrant when such an earth shattering news came out infront of him, atleast until he calms down, stood by him and supported him. But instead what they showed us was Mannat justifying RoTu crime , Neetu drugging and glorifying DK . Mannat played into the hands of the villains exactly like Vikrant played into their hands.

As far as i remember mannat didnt justify Rotu's crimes nor did she justify neetu's drugging in episodes right? ... She supported Rotu because she wanted to make vik realise not to trust vish blindly and hear the entire truth before he comes to conclusion..

And mannat didn't glorify dk....She clearly stated that she is supporting dk just because he is his brother and vik is misunderstanding him

She never in jer wildest dreams would have thought that vik will question her loyalty just because she is making him understand other person's pov...anybody would be broken if they gets to hear such kind of allegations from their partner especially on their wedding day.... but despite this mannat kept on going back to vik ,she didnt play into hands of villans intially ,she understood vik's situation and vish manipulations and therefore she kept on trying to make vik understand....but it was of no use

And if after all these would it matter if mannat is playing into villians hands or not...may be at that point she really doesn't care if vik is being manipulated or not, the exact reason villians got an opportunity to play with their relationship is because of vik's trust issues...even if she addresses the situation at that point ,what's the Guarantee that it wouldn't repeat again....she already made a lot of compromises by understanding him and forgiving him and not playing into hands of villians but vik again repeats the same mistakes....how long will she keep putting up a single sided fight for their relationship...

I still do believe vik totally deserves one last chance if he truly redeems himself... But what all realisations or redemptions mannat had to go through already happened pre leap... There is nothing more she can do for the relationship... Ya but if at all she is planning to hide dua's birth secret from her life long then mannat definitely should grow in that aspect that no matter how harsh the truth is, at one point or other the person deserves to know their truth, what they will do with their truth is their choice all you can do is tell them the truth and be there with them during their difficult situation

Originally posted by: Shazia_h

Thank you RD, you’ve made me think deeper.

Bold - ah yes I see your distinction in apologising for lying to him rather than accepting that it was wrong to support Neetu snatching and drugging him, both wrong actions done to him. Praising DK at that time was bizarre and to allow MU/CA and post leap Indore set up, so different issue.

Pink - very true, Mannat isn’t even shown to even weigh up the damage her lies will cause Dua, just deciding with DK not to tell Dua. This may be from her projecting her own bio circumstances and anxiety onto Dua’s case.

Blue - yes agree the narrative is largely focussing on Vikrant’s wrong doing pre and post leap, I’ve got caught up with that too. Both definitely have a lot of reflection and learning to do, and Vikrant’s state of confusion and hole he’s dug himself into will take more to climb out of. Dua has forced Mannat to evaluate what her priority given what she believes is true.

We can swap ships again next week 😂 I might have to jump in to try to defend Vikrant’s stupidity

I have too much hand on time today 🙈

Bold 1 - This is where I realized post leap we do end up giving a lot of benefit of doubt for Mannat but don't extend the same courtesy to Vikrant. I am not sure if it's because majority of us are of the same gender as Mannat or is it because of the fact Mannat lost Shurti when she was pregnant.

Example that fateful day, because of the lies which tumbled out of the closet like a volcano, there was no time for him to even think or process. He was getting bombarded with 1 lie after another and he had no one to turn to except for Vish whose words were proving to be true. We can question he never trusted Mannat, but the truth was in this matter he did and even turned to her to confirm after the video was played. After that it was just 1 disaster after another.

We have always discussed how RoTu always EB Vikrant into doing things against his will , we have seen Neetu harassing Mannat constantly. Wouldn't Vikrant question why Mannat was supporting Neetu who hated her after the truth is out, wouldn't he wonder if RoTu were not so clean in their past how come they EB him through out his life, infact EB him into marrying M. If I remember correctly he does ask Mannat why she was supporting Neetu who was always against her.

Bold 2 - Exactly, if you look at it the moment Vikrant heard about Shurti he forgot everything and wanted to go be with Mannat, unfortunately villains played dirty here and got to Mannat before Vikrant.