Mihir n Kiran's conversation

This conversation has only one thing, ki a man like Mihir wants to compensate his love affair with his property. Logical by Mihir, but Kiran is taking the video footage of USA in different perspective and helping Mihir realize that, he loves Noina. Mihir doesn't deny it😡😡. So itne din jo bol rha tha, he loves only Tulsi, was it a big lie?? Strange. Kiran ghatiya insan hai, jis Tulsi ne usse itna pyar, samman, affection diya, usske baare me kabhi nhi socha, usse kabhi Mhir ki ONS galat nhi laggti, shaadi me rehke extra marital affair rakhna, he is justifying. Kiran ghatiya soch ka ghatiya insan hai. I 'm sure bcoz of this infedility his wife is separated from him.

Mihir has regrets for his ONS with Noina, but he never says he doesn't love her in the whole conversation? Goddd, it's totally unbearable, kahi Kiran Noina ka agent to nhi hai??? He has a hidden agenda. Har pati patni, jhagde ke baad kisi teesre se rishta banaye rkhe to, jo samajik boundaries hai na wo nhi rahengi, and we human beings will be equal to animals, jo apni physical needs k liye koi bhi kisi bhi gali k prani ke saath bacche paida karte hai. 😡😡😡

Precap, Mihir mera ho chuka hai🙄, matlab, she wanted him physically alone?? She has lust also she must be wanting his property too, the kind of manipulative women she is, she can do anything.she talks as if till these days she has not taken advantage of Mihir's acchayi for her😡🙄

Pari looks exactly like Noina, difference is Noina ne pati ko maara, apne so called pyar k liye, pari jhooth bol k pati se separate hogyi. I'm still not convinced, both Pari n Noina loves RV and Mihir respectively.

why is kiran telling mihir negative things

usually if someone complaints of spouse or wife relatives try to make light so big fight do not occur bet hubby wife

they cat as mediator

but in general i agree with kirans view points

many indians live in unhappy marriages all life

husband is busy at work or having affair outside

wife is taking care of home and kids

many wives ignore hubby affair as they are not financially strong or independent

or they want hubby property for their kids

if hubby marry again property go to second wife and her kids

that no wife wants that her hubby property go to new wife (ex see karishmakapoor and her kids struggling to get their share of property from fathers death)

also parents, family never allows wife to divorce

they say adjust hubby will come back to youuu

also indian society forgive men easily for straying or having affairs

that only wife having affair is blasphemy

also divorced women not respected in society

so women forced to adjust hubby digressions by wife

but hubby has no such compulsion he can have affairs as many yet his respect does not reduce in relatives colleagues or society

also indian society do not respect kids whose mother has been divorcd by their dad

so indian wife forced to accept hubby affairs and keep quiet like tulsi did with mandira

but suffering stays all life with wife and kids too suffer

Originally posted by: myviewprem

why is kiran telling mihir negative things

usually if someone complaints of spouse or wife relatives try to make light so big fight do not occur bet hubby wife

they cat as mediator

but in general i agree with kirans view points

many indians live in unhappy marriages all life

husband is busy at work or having affair outside

wife is taking care of home and kids

many wives ignore hubby affair as they are not financially strong or independent

or they want hubby property for their kids

if hubby marry again property go to second wife and her kids

that no wife wants that her hubby property go to new wife (ex see karishmakapoor and her kids struggling to get their share of property from fathers death)

also parents, family never allows wife to divorce

they say adjust hubby will come back to youuu

also indian society forgive men easily for straying or having affairs

that only wife having affair is blasphemy

also divorced women not respected in society

so women forced to adjust hubby digressions by wife

but hubby has no such compulsion he can have affairs as many yet his respect does not reduce in relatives colleagues or society

also indian society do not respect kids whose mother has been divorcd by their dad

so indian wife forced to accept hubby affairs and keep quiet like tulsi did with mandira

but suffering stays all life with wife and kids too suffer

I really appreciate all your thoughts, especially the women suppressing her self respect, desires keeping in mind her kids future, societal pressure or when she isn't financially independent. But there are cases, where women are emotionally attached to their husbands, so it is difficult for them to partways. I don't think so Tulsi is weak here, she is just trying to be sensible to keep her family together and protect from all evil people, the moment she finds Mihir's cheating she will be shattered and will go away from his life.

The point hereis the hubby n wife have no issues of their own, but family issues, children issues. He once not trying to question himself, why is a woman who dedicated her whole life is opposing his decisions now. He is surrounded by Noina's well being, Noina's care, Noina's niece, comparing his wife with other women.

Example, if we go to a hotel, if the hotel staff treats you well throughout your stay, does not necessarily mean you will compare the hospitality with your family member.

Here Mihir's stand is totally unethical, he is cheating Tulsi in many ways. Emotionally, verbally, treating her disrespectfully.

He should have the guts to and stay with Noina, say that he doesn't love Tulsi his wife. Claims he loves Tulsi, does not deny he do not love Noina, do kastiyoan me sawar hona hai?? 😡 now he is acting all guilty, maine Tulsi k saath anyay kiya, let me compensate it with money?? Ye mahan banne jaa rha hai.. Maje tum lo, ghoom firo tum, aish karo tum, mahan bhi tum?? Why should he get influenced by Kiran, Noina or Pari against his wife??

First question is he has no time to think of Tulsi, no time to think of Noina and Pari's manipulation?? He stopped thinking.

Kiran is not his brother, he looks like taking some revenge from Tulsi using Mihir. Everyone doing the same.

Kiran has been westernised, as repeatedly said, Americanised by both Hemant and by even Mihir yesterday.

He was already not exactly a poster child for ethics and morality when he had no qualms about taking his older brother and his wife’s son and kidnapping him after they allowed him and his now ex-wife to graciously adopt Gautam as Aarti was diagnosed as infertile.

The move to western countries from Australia to now America has done the rest of the job. He has lost touch with what makes a person connected to their families, values and even basic morality and humanity.

He is shown as a representative of the people who gradually lose touch with their ethos, values, traditions and upbringing the more they are distant from their roots and influenced by a foreign culture and society. They see the hyper materialism of that society as a good thing because they equate it with a better life. To them a big house, independence, freedom, being able to earn and splurge as much and as often they want, no one to question or stop them, no responsibilities and no obligations are a measure of being successful.

They become so hedonistic that they believe that living a hollow life is a good thing. When they start drinking, sleeping around, drugs or any other addictions or substance abuse to fill the void of their empty lives they justify it with the explanation that they are simply resorting to something akin to a sleeping medicine, a calming mechanism.

They can never bring themselves to acknowledge that with no one to sustain them, support them emotionally, care for them and look after them while they suffer from basic ailments such as cough and fever to major diseases they get lonely and no amount of material goods and money in the world can buy them genuine love, affection and happiness, no matter how rich they get they can never step into a place that feels like home regardless of how opulent a place they may have. A chaotic home is still home with someone to talk to, someone to wake up to, someone who will listen and be there for you even when there are fights, arguments and times that they drive you crazy and up the wall. There are times that may reduce you to tears, that irk you but you will never need to resort to self-destructive paths to fill a void that nothing will ever fill.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Kiran has been westernised, as repeatedly said, Americanised by both Hemant and by even Mihir yesterday.

He was already not exactly a poster child for ethics and morality when he had no qualms about taking his older brother and his wife’s son and kidnapping him after they allowed him and his now ex-wife to graciously adopt Gautam as Aarti was diagnosed as infertile.

The move to western countries from Australia to now America has done the rest of the job. He has lost touch with what makes a person connected to their families, values and even basic morality and humanity.

He is shown as a representative of the people who gradually lose touch with their ethos, values, traditions and upbringing the more they are distant from their roots and influenced by a foreign culture and society. They see the hyper materialism of that society as a good thing because they equate it with a better life. To them a big house, independence, freedom, being able to earn and splurge as much and as often they want, no one to question or stop them, no responsibilities and no obligations are a measure of being successful.

They become so hedonistic that they believe that living a hollow life is a good thing. When they start drinking, sleeping around, drugs or any other addictions or substance abuse to fill the void of their empty lives they justify it with the explanation that they are simply resorting to something akin to a sleeping medicine, a calming mechanism.

They can never bring themselves to acknowledge that with no one to sustain them, support them emotionally, care for them and look after them while they suffer from basic ailments such as cough and fever to major diseases they get lonely and no amount of material goods and money in the world can buy them genuine love, affection and happiness, no matter how rich they get they can never step into a place that feels like home regardless of how opulent a place they may have. A chaotic home is still home with someone to talk to, someone to wake up to, someone who will listen and be there for you even when there are fights, arguments and times that they drive you crazy and up the wall. There are times that may reduce you to tears, that irk you but you will never need to resort to self-destructive paths to fill a void that nothing will ever fill.

I agree on your thoughts -about Kiran you put your views so well, top notch, hitting the bulls eye

You write and express so well 🙏. I think you should try to be part of BT writers. Anyways, they miserably fail to justify the character's behavior why is he/she behaving the way.

I m not exaggerating, i really love your thoughts. ❤️

Originally posted by: bpatil3

I agree on your thoughts -about Kiran you put your views are top notch, hitting the bulls eye

Your write and express so well 🙏. I think yu should try to be part of BT writers. Anyways, they miserably fail to justify the character's behavior why is he/she behaving the way.

I m not exaggerating, i really love your thoughts. ❤️

Thank you

I believe that they are showing Kiran in this manner to depict the downfall of family values and humanity when people get too westernised.

They will surely make him eat his words but not so soon. The impact of his downfall and him getting a lesson in humility and perhaps humanity will only resonate when they depict the depth of his decline. The how, when and why remains to be seen.

You know I realised one thing seeing this season that how important it is for families to have a senior guide.

Like Baa,if Baa or savita existed things would have been different.

Like I have a belief that elders are sometimes the main glue that keeps the family's together.

I mean to say that agar Ghar mein koi bada hota hai toh the parivaar actually gets a direction and stability.The old school wisdom sometimes really works wonders

But only if the elders are just,emotionally stable and ready to move ahead with the future.

Originally posted by: A_Star39

You know I realised one thing seeing this season that how important it is for families to have a senior guide.

Like Baa,if Baa or savita existed things would have been different.

Like I have a belief that elders are sometimes the main glue that keeps the family's together.

I mean to say that agar Ghar mein koi bada hota hai toh the parivaar actually gets a direction and stability.The old school wisdom sometimes really works wonders

But only if the elders are just,emotionally stable and ready to move ahead with the future.

Yes, they might perhaps have some scene in the future where they do discuss how Baa and Bapuji managed to thrive as a couple and start a family together, then went onto guide not 1 but 2 generations of the same family for Bapuji and Baa would see her 3rd generation with her great-grandchildren.

They managed to make sure everyone was under one roof and compare that to now. After Baa the family has a bigger house now but an emptier one too. Mihir himself only has his adopted children with him while all his biological children are away. From those adopted kids, he kicked one out already, will marry off and bid farewell to another most likely and the third one will probably leave when he truly falls for the girl who was once their maid assuming the worst of his dad. That’s if the whole Noyna scandal is not exposed before that.

Mihir might have taken on the mantle of the patriarch of the family but he has been a disaster. Being the oldest is not necessarily the same as being the wisest.

Where he should have set examples, ensured that he runs the family with discipline mixed with empathy and love that would inspire his children to follow in his footsteps once he’s gone he’s out there making sure that everyone including his own children with adult children of their own become a subject of ridicule and mockery while embarrassing them to no ends.

He would be eternally grateful that his grandchildren didn’t watch him behave with Tulsi the way he has been doing off late because what would that make them think? His grandsons will think this is how a man is expected to treat his wife, any granddaughter will hate him and think she would much rather stay single than be with a man like her grandfather. Because had this happened in front of his kids like Karan, Gautam - I am sure they would intervene or at least Nandini and Damini would and then matters were bound to get ugly and uglier.

They’re showing how a responsible and level-headed as well as loving matriarch and patriarch can keep a family together but an irresponsible and hotheaded one can ruin it in one go.

The generation of Baa would fix the marriages of their children and their kids would marry the person their parents selected. Like I am sure that Baa or Bapuji picked Savita, Daksha, Gayatri and Navin for their children. Those marriages survived and were rock solid with no infidelity even if they had their rough patches. When Mihir’s generation married - all the brothers married for love and picked their own brides. Kiran is divorced, Mihir is the precautionary tale of the family while Hemant and Chirag seem to have a happy marriage even if we have not seen Pooja and Prajakta; even Chirag himself in the longest time.

But there after it has been a colossal mockery of marriage as an institution one after another starting with Gautam’s generation. I am not too hopeful for this one as well, given the history.

This was alluded to by Parvati in her cameo, how times have changed. How families went from joint to nuclear, from dining together gathered in the family room to dining together in front of a common TV to now individually watching their own things on their phones even when out for dinner.

We are perhaps the last generation who even knows what the joy of living with and growing up with grandparents, uncles, aunts and cousins means….