Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 146

One thing Hassan said in his SH review that really stuck with me was the symbolism of Nashwa wearing white on her rukhsati. And the fact that she cleans Ammar’s room. He called it her starting over with a clean chit. Fooling herself into thinking that she can somehow manage this marriage and make it work, when she’s actually completely falling apart and in over her head about this. Even her taking him for rehab is her grasping at straws to make her situation more liveable. But obviously it backfires as was expected.

It was an apt take

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Someone make me understand this Burhan Beenish logic? The show has beaten our heads with the fact that Burhan is another aashiq in true love just like his father. He’s in so deep when it comes to Nashwa. And Nashwa’s feelings are clear as day too. Her eyes, the way Burhan calls out her lies, the way she’s always constantly thinking about him 24/7. Even on her wedding night ffs.

Beenish ko tou Burhan behen keh chuka hai bhai 🙏

Anyway, I am super excited for next episodes! Promo was banger! Getting goosebumps already. Also I’ve LOVED the critic takes on Qarz e Jaan last week. They all brought up amazing points. Nashwa’s humanity, the way she feels cornered and Ammar’s arc as a common criminal. Super realistic and I feel it’s because the writer herself experienced something like this. Someone she knew who one day just came and murdered her father. In such cases the signs are there which hint that someone is maybe going off the rails but nobody in the family takes it seriously. And it’s only later when suddenly something strikes too close to home that it becomes a wake up call.

I don’t need to go into details about how many criminals and rapists still roam free in our society. Enjoying the influence and protection of their families who are either living in denial or don’t care about what happens to random strangers as long as unn ki apni izzat banni rahay. These toxic people and families are way too common. Who always protect and enable the black sheeps of the family.

I know the cost is huge. I feel so bad for Asad and Beenish but I am ready for the unholy trilogy of Ammar Bakhtiyar and Barkat to suffer now. I’m sitting with my 🍿 ready

See reading eyes etc are just mere presumptions. I still don't think Nashwa loves Burhan. Leave aside Love, she doesn't even like or respect him. Till now she has not confessed even to herself that she likes Burhan. For me, more than love, I think respect and trust should be there in a relationship, which Nashwa doesn't have for Burhan. Had she respected, she would have confided with him and seeked his advice and help about thr deal. I want to Burhan to realize this and make peace with this fact that it was a one sided love from his side and move on with life with someone else or maybe single. But I don't want him to become Asim 2. I want him to handle this situation like how faryal did. How gracefully she accepted his rejection. I think he should go back to UK.

As far as Beenish is concerned, all this Bhai talks doesn't matter. Even Nashwa considered Ammar as her brother, still she married him.

Do you know, in bollywood, Sridevi used to tie Rakhi into to Boney Kapoor whom she later got married to.

So everything is circumstantial. I think Beenish will be a the best choice for Burhan if he really wants to move on. She will be a very good wife for him, and he will be an excellent father for Hadi. And an excellent husband too.

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Such a beautiful VM

Originally posted by: pilot100

See reading eyes etc are just mere presumptions. I still don't think Nashwa loves Burhan. Leave aside Love, she doesn't even like or respect him. Till now she has not confessed even to herself that she likes Burhan. For me, more than love, I think respect and trust should be there in a relationship, which Nashwa doesn't have for Burhan. Had she respected, she would have confided with him and seeked his advice and help about thr deal. I want to Burhan to realize this and make peace with this fact that it was a one sided love from his side and move on with life with someone else or maybe single. But I don't want him to become Asim 2. I want him to handle this situation like how faryal did. How gracefully she accepted his rejection. I think he should go back to UK.

As far as Beenish is concerned, all this Bhai talks doesn't matter. Even Nashwa considered Ammar as her brother, still she married him.

Do you know, in bollywood, Sridevi used to tie Rakhi into to Boney Kapoor whom she later got married to.

So everything is circumstantial. I think Beenish will be a the best choice for Burhan if he really wants to move on. She will be a very good wife for him, and he will be an excellent father for Hadi. And an excellent husband too.

Respectfully disagree. Burhan is not owed anything just because he loves a girl. It’s the girl’s choice to make and as per this story she sacrificed her happiness to ensure her mother’s future. For her mother she can sacrifice Burhan because she is her #1. And for that reason she DID give him the respect by NOT leading him on, because she knew they had no future. Would you rather she have confessed her feelings, spelled it outright and then ditched him. She handled it all with a lot of grace and foresight. That doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him. She does but she wasn’t in a position to encourage his feelings or her own because ultimately, they couldn’t be together.

Story telling is more than taking words at surface value. You have to read between the lines, understand character motivations and gauge performances. And even IF you want to take exact dialogues Burhan himself has called out Nashwa many times for her obvious feelings for him. Also the fact that the director constantly shows Nashwa thinking about Burhan. To cast these aside because Nashwa isn’t saying she loves him outright is doing a disservice to the story. Es se zyada obvious ho nahi sakta

the expectations you’re having from her is when a relationship starts. Yahan tou Nashwa is cutting it in the bud before it even happens. This is reiterated by Asim keh how can you expect anything when she never made any promises? It was wise advice. Sometimes feelings or no feelings, someone’s choice needs to be respected. Just because Burhan is a great guy (which Nashwa knows he is) he’s not automatically owed reciprocation by the heroine anyway.

Jab We Met main there’s a very cute scene where the guy knows the girl doesn’t love him back but he tells the girl that my feelings are MY problem, you shouldn’t worry about them, you do your thing.

It’s not love where you feel entitled to be loved back by the object of your affection. There shouldn’t be that sense of ownership. But decisions and choices should be respected especially if sacrifices are made for something important - like in this case, securing Bisma and Bakhtiyar’s threat which made Nashwa marry Ammar.

It’s obvious there are lingering feelings but she’s in a situation where she has no choice but to continue her marriage. She is scared for harm to befall her mother.

I really don’t think Beenish and Burhan are anywhere in the cards in this story. Too random

To add to this Nashwa has always kept her guards up when it comes to Burhan. She respects him as a mentor who she eventually develops feelings for. But she’s very conscious of the fact that he is her supervisor as well. He’s not her bachpan ka chaddi buddy keh woh uss se sab kuch share karay especially if its pertains to her mother. She already had a scene with him where she told him he had overstepped his boundaries. Expecting her to come to him for advice would be out of character for her. She’s not even confiding in Beenish tou Burhan kya cheez hai. And she’s grown up with Beenish, she’s her best friend. Not sharing doesn’t mean she doesn’t respect them. She just hasn’t given anyone else the right to make this decision, because nobody else has lived her life. Only she knows what’s at stake.

As for trust, Nashwa has a hundred trust issues and why wouldn’t she? Look how she grew up and who she’s surrounded by.

To use THAT and say keh love isn’t there makes no sense to me. You can love someone while simultaneously scared to be vulnerable in front of them. Look at all the brave posturing she does. Pretending she has everything under control yet silently falling apart.

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Respectfully disagree. Burhan is not owed anything just because he loves a girl. It’s the girl’s choice to make and as per this story she sacrificed her happiness to ensure her mother’s future. For her mother she can sacrifice Burhan because she is her #1. And for that reason she DID give him the respect by NOT leading him on, because she knew they had no future. Would you rather she have confessed her feelings, spelled it outright and then ditched him. She handled it all with a lot of grace and foresight. That doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him. She does but she wasn’t in a position to encourage his feelings or her own because ultimately, they couldn’t be together.

Story telling is more than taking words at surface value. You have to read between the lines, understand character motivations and gauge performances. And even IF you want to take exact dialogues Burhan himself has called out Nashwa many times for her obvious feelings for him. Also the fact that the director constantly shows Nashwa thinking about Burhan. To cast these aside because Nashwa isn’t saying she loves him outright is doing a disservice to the story. Es se zyada obvious ho nahi sakta

the expectations you’re having from her is when a relationship starts. Yahan tou Nashwa is cutting it in the bud before it even happens. This is reiterated by Asim keh how can you expect anything when she never made any promises? It was wise advice. Sometimes feelings or no feelings, someone’s choice needs to be respected. Just because Burhan is a great guy (which Nashwa knows he is) he’s not automatically owed reciprocation by the heroine anyway.

Jab We Met main there’s a very cute scene where the guy knows the girl doesn’t love him back but he tells the girl that my feelings are MY problem, you shouldn’t worry about them, you do your thing.

It’s not love where you feel entitled to be loved back by the object of your affection. There shouldn’t be that sense of ownership. But decisions and choices should be respected especially if sacrifices are made for something important - like in this case, securing Bisma and Bakhtiyar’s threat which made Nashwa marry Ammar.

It’s obvious there are lingering feelings but she’s in a situation where she has no choice but to continue her marriage. She is scared for harm to befall her mother.

I really don’t think Beenish and Burhan are anywhere in the cards in this story. Too random

I again repeat. I never had any problem of Nashwa not reciprocating his love. Even if she doesn’t love him it's fine. Her choice. But I am angry at her constant disrespect towards him right from the beginning even before her marriage to Ammar. And yesterday on the road why was she extremely rude to him, when all he was just offering her to drop her back. She never shows any attitude to Ammar but she shows so much attitude to Burhan. Plus she could have easily confided with Burhan about the deal. That is the least respect she could have given him. Also, the dialogues she said to Bisma, that Burhan has always been lucky, was the last nail in the coffin. I mean, even he has seen his parents getting killed and had to undergo a childhood trauma of adoption etc. Which child deserves that. I found her to be jealous of him in that scene.

Anyway I hope Burhan pays heed to Asim advice and moves on in life. For that he either has to move back to UK or marry someone who can give him the emotional support. Faryal was best for him, but she is gone and he has Aldready told NO to her. So beenish is the next best option for him. Because i know she will be a good wife. But I don't want Nashwa and Burhan to Marry, because I am sure even after marriage, she won't be a good wife to Burhan. She is too cold and stone hearted. If nothing, she will pick up fight with him for his professional choice and decisions too, ot if anything happens to her mothers, she might just blame him.She only loves her mother and law, which she will get by the end of the story. All i see Nashwa is as an impulsive, egoistic and immature girl. And I don't feel sorry for her current state as she is the one who chose this. It's better they both be single and independent and make peace with life.

Originally posted by: pilot100

I again repeat. I never had any problem of Nashwa not reciprocating his love. Even if she doesn’t love him it's fine. Her choice. But I am angry at her constant disrespect towards him right from the beginning even before her marriage to Ammar. And yesterday on the road why was she extremely rude to him, when all he was just offering her to drop her back. She never shows any attitude to Ammar but she shows so much attitude to Burhan. Plus she could have easily confided with Burhan about the deal. That is the least respect she could have given him. Also, the dialogues she said to Bisma, that Burhan has always been lucky, was the last nail in the coffin. I mean, even he has seen his parents getting killed and had to undergo a childhood trauma of adoption etc. Which child deserves that. I found her to be jealous of him in that scene.

Anyway I hope Burhan pays heed to Asim advice and moves on in life. For that he either has to move back to UK or marry someone who can give him the emotional support. Faryal was best for him, but she is gone and he has Aldready told NO to her. So beenish is the next best option for him. Because i know she will be a good wife. But I don't want Nashwa and Burhan to Marry, because I am sure even after marriage, she won't be a good wife to Burhan. She is too cold and stone hearted. If nothing, she will pick up fight with him for his professional choice and decisions too, ot if anything happens to her mothers, she might just blame him.She only loves her mother and law, which she will get by the end of the story. All i see Nashwa is as an impulsive, egoistic and immature girl. And I don't feel sorry for her current state as she is the one who chose this. It's better they both be single and independent and make peace with life.

What you’re perceiving as rudeness is actually her maintaining a distance from him deliberately. She’s married now and has been for a long time - even the first time he confessed his feelings to her she was already someone’s WIFE. And Ammar has already taunted her many times about her relationship with Burhan. Uper se Nashwa ke dil main waise bhi chor hai coz she likes Burhan. In these circumstances she wants to keep as much away from him as she can. He’s a danger to her feelings and situation with Ammar.

Flip the situation. She has told Burhan countless times that she doesn’t want to sit in the car with him. Woh bhi tou itna insist kerta hai? But am I saying keh that is him being pushy? No. Because he’s doing it to look out for her. Same for Nashwa. She has to look out for herself and him. Yeh car rides se their feelings and Ammar’s suspicions will just grow aur kuch nahi hona.

I would maybe call her stubborn but rude kaise ho gayi. It’s just her setting necessary boundaries given their situation

Next thread please and thank you definitely going to be the last one.

Very excited for today's episode

I don't know for how many epis they will drag the court drama but hopefully it will have a logical end

Originally posted by: Alizba63

Next thread please and thank you definitely going to be the last one.

Already made

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