KMTMG Discussions Thread #10 - Page 85

Will wait your response on this OG post. My view to below post & #831. - Reason I said Negative in recovery & compared to addict. When addicts face temptation... will they use their tools or call their sponsor. This subject links back to positive relationships.

Who or where does V A turn for marriage advise? Remember the Janejas in Goa... this is type of sponsor they need to make this relationship healthy. Since it doesnt exist they cant turn to dildar but Bhavani. Years she knew about EMA but endured marriage. Bhavani struggled in marriage & is most experienced. Her advice should be given to leads V A not nimmi... but creators continue on this show with unhealthy relationships.

Protagonist growth- maybe we look at it wrong. Shows antagonist & protagonist is the same person- BABITA . V A chem is only a backdrop hook to tell babita story. However lets addres your post again. If amu protagonist there is no growth... the antagonist has grown to be worse. A fully blown criminal hiring & funding other criminals like Ex & indirectly Rajiv. What do we say? Keep watching & wonder why... why complain if it gets worse?

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Initial response, Bhavani hasn't gone negative yet. In a way she is on a similar place like Ammu is. We have to see where they take her under influence of Vandy. Virat is not negative yet... but what they show as positive isn't good enough - has enough elements in him to make me think a new mu is getting nearer and nearer.

A general view I have on the 'moral' thing I mentioned earlier is its fine to start things in a bad way but they do have to raise the standards of at least the protagonists over a period of time - unless its a tragedy [like a Richard Gere (i think.. or was it Harrison Ford?) movie I had seen long back in which he was playing a depressed guy (probably bipolar too) and from what I remember commits suicide in the end].

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Any idea why some symbols are used the way they are?

- two of them... MS and engagement ring - with its disgusting past but she continues to wear them (perhaps the ring too). Ring is costly (a crore????) but wont think of selling it.

- two of them... pendant and earring. Much more genuine. But on now off now. Personally I'd prefer her wearing the pendant instead of the MS given that it came under much better circumstances and with better meaning. Earring... mortgaging it is fine Virat ... welcome to the 'level' VSA... thats how people get money sometimes. Think people dont care about what they mortgage? But then... when the engagement ring is available?

I wish they thought of that ring because pehle se mujhe usse pareshaani hai. She kept the ring for the bakwas plan they brought up, fake shaadi wala. The same ring was used by V to fake the proposal, but it was Pri's first of all. Joh bhi ho raha hai unke delulu world mein, that girl needs a new ring, man! (Not only the ring but everything to be rebooted, from a fresh proposal to the shaadi with a deep convo first )

Get rid of that expensive ring, yaar! Hum yahan sab kuch ache se yaad hai, but un writers koh kyun nahin and those delulu chem fans not helping!

Honestly, I didn't see the eps but she should not think of giving the earrings and pendant (if still there). Joh bhi story hai, if she truly "fell" for the guy why think of sacrificing those meaningful gifts over something else? Just saying! CVs sach mein pagal hai

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

By the way, looking at the response to mortgaging the earring (in X), I think they may go for the first bit of mu for Virat. I hadn't given it much thought - cause its quite common for Ammu and family to mortgage things. But this is likely to hurt him. It can be a learning curve for him... but will he or wont is to be seen.

Think the writers have forgotten about the engagement ring though.

Of course, it will hurt, yaar! Story joh bhi hai (as said above) those earrings are precious to him and should be to her (pehla KC gift hai na). Why will "she" (mostly the writers ) think of mortgaging them over anything else? It means she doesn't care about their "love," "feelings," or whatever between them

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

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Virat feeling hurt is good acc to me - and I mean it genuinely. he is getting a taste of what she / her family used to do when she was working for him. [I do doubt he will take it well though.]

So toh hai, but since Ammu is in delulu mode, that is rubbish from the writers

Originally posted by: Riggy

What about the bangles purchased during fake marriage? They mentioned it was pretty costly. So, bangles, engagement ring, and ms....that should be more than enough to cover 50,000.

What about Ahuja cars...They are just silly like always. This stupid track is just because they don't have a choice to relocate set for a A house I guess Or something similar. It's weird though!!!! Aise kam kaise karte hai? Why bring a new show then if they can't take care of the current one???

Originally posted by: Pyaarasam

Of course, it will hurt, yaar! Story joh bhi hai (as said above) those earrings are precious to him and should be to her (pehla KC gift hai na). Why will "she" (mostly the writers ) think of mortgaging them over anything else? It means she doesn't care about their "love," "feelings," or whatever between them

Hope the next post did clear the pov somewhat. Of course, its a forced situation that is created as if there is no other way. In this case at least I didn't feel she doesn't care - it is a temporary thing... make some money and she will get it back. Its not like V ke sacrifice etc gayi bhaad me, I take it as Ammu saying "welcome to the reality about how we live our lives sometimes - we have to mortgage things we love and value." Bad place for a 30 yr old MBA to be in... but then that has been how things panned out. She was shown more concerned about what Virat Sir is feeling and cooking for the Ahujas rather than earning money.

I've felt its more confusing / questionable as to why is the pendant on and off many times - hope they dont show the pendant with them now, cause I think its in Ahuja house.

Is there something in it for Virat? I think so. The initial days how he had accused her of 'doing anything for money'... yup she is doing anything for money... but he may now understand "why?" [And on the nasty pov, I dont give two figs about what he 'feels' given what he has done... I'd say he should be grateful Ammu is delusional enough to be around him.]

Originally posted by: sugz

Will wait your response on this OG post. My view to below post & #831. - Reason I said Negative in recovery & compared to addict. When addicts face temptation... will they use their tools or call their sponsor. This subject links back to positive relationships.

Who or where does V A turn for marriage advise? Remember the Janejas in Goa... this is type of sponsor they need to make this relationship healthy. Since it doesnt exist they cant turn to dildar but Bhavani. Years she knew about EMA but endured marriage. Bhavani struggled in marriage & is most experienced. Her advice should be given to leads V A not nimmi... but creators continue on this show with unhealthy relationships.

Protagonist growth- maybe we look at it wrong. Shows antagonist & protagonist is the same person- BABITA . V A chem is only a backdrop hook to tell babita story. However lets addres your post again. If amu protagonist there is no growth... the antagonist has grown to be worse. A fully blown criminal hiring & funding other criminals like Ex & indirectly Rajiv. What do we say? Keep watching & wonder why... why complain if it gets worse?

I doubt if they have any actual 'story' to go ahead with. They seem to be more consistent around getting new characters in around every 50 eps than with the story.

If the show is to go on for a while (if the channel is generous to them) they are likely to go for a separation. If they cared about the story and characters the separation should've happened immediately after the mela eps. But they dont. They can go on a loop: plot - chem scene- plot - chem scene - something really big - chem scene - plot - chem scene.... add some confusion in between, so that the chem scene doesn't lead to consummation.... When the channel says its time to bring in a new phase, have a separation and add 'hit and miss' to the loop.

Lack of positive characters - yup. Not just in relation to their relationship, the general impotence of positive character is alarming. Making Ammu say 'Dildaar is like a father to me' a hundred times doesn't make him a good character. Anything positive about that relationship died when Dildaar wasn't courteous enough to at least meet her once when she was in jail. For me he should've secretly arranged a good lawyer for her who would've helped her win the case.

Bhavani is as confused / wavery as anyone else... and in general this 'wavery-ness' is how the show is going too. Big things happen but responses to them are underwhelming, while they make a mountain about what actually is a molehill. Villains get away 'all the time'... Some are considered good enough to carry on a relationship with. [Actually feel bad for Rajeev - he has been through hell compared to the other villains - just because he is always singled out by Ammu... dont know why? after all, not much difference b/w what he did and what others have. Kind of a satirical take but there is a grain of truth in it too. ]

First time for about 2.5 months episodes chitnis family & jk got lodged on B block open terrace for EASE of shooting together on same set by direction team with low budgets, also to plot repetitive crime scenes lazily was ph & writers priority along with celebrating festivals low cost. At that time A block flat sets of JK and Jayesh were barely shown to viewers.

Now that penthouse along with terrace set is unavailable or getting remodeled or perhaps low budgets again? so reverse repeats with ONLY A block flat sets and some garden/common area outside available. So there's nothing like sequential story flow or reasonable plot twists with focused character graphs in KMTMG raising viewers anticipation when comfort of shooting with entire cast together on available sets easily takes higher priority just to fill up episodes.

Also possible that they are carrying on the shooting just because the channel hasn't told them to pack up yet. They dont seem to have a story to tell, so just filling up things with what they can.

Channel put both Rabb and KMTMG on notice period long back to observe how they'll perform on new time slots, which are less competitive compared to late evening slots.

Guess Mukta's team was given assurance till 400 episodes or 1 year completion to pick up, so she must be waiting to launch other shows before finally taking decision on KMTMG.

Interestingly 7.30pm turned out least competitive post dussera holidays, other than this long running Parineeti on colors there's hardly any notable serial for fiction TV audiences to latch on other GECs, but feel KMTMG team failed to capitalise to retain or attract TV audiences. with some surprise elements, reasonable twists n turns, believable character arcs they could have got assurance to stabilize at 7.30pm slot for another 6 months easily.