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I never said Ruhi wasn't careless, I said her being careless because she knew her baby was a healthy pregnancy doesn't make a horrible mother, same way Abhira following everything closely doesn't make her an amazing mother. I had critiqued Akshara the same way earlier, that she took care of her baby, made him strong, but when it came to teaching him good things, Abhinav and her failed as parents when they called him a bojh toh make him go with Abhimanyu since that made sure Abhir would never accept Abhimanyu with love but only with necessity, which is essentially using him. Being good careful and everything during pregnancy doesn't make you an amazing mother if you don't follow through with parenting, and same for opposite, being insecure jealous negative during pregnancy doesn't make you a horrible mother. That comes only with the upbringing. Even drug addicts clean their act to have their baby and then go back to old habits, making them horrible mothers.

The problem is the confusion between "pregnancy care" and "motherhood" is where my issue is. They are not related to each other. If they were, a women in postpartum would be an amazing mother, which isn't always the case, depending on the severity

Originally posted by: Krinya

Abhira was criticized for keeping her pregnancy a secret. She was fainting all over the place acting solo. I will always criticized her for the pregnancy itself .

Ruhi might be careless with her health and driving but inspite of all of that, her baby is alive.if ruhi was careless , that doesn't take away her mother's right.. .

Abhiras baby couldn't make it , it's not abhiras fault . Nobody said it is.

I'll not discuss passing on the injections , it was an itv excuse to show abhira as mahan. If ruhis child is Alive thanks to abhira , that doesn't mean child should be taken frm his mother & handed over to abhira.

The precap scene , well , ruhi hates abhira , that's the narrative . She won't start loving abhira if she "shares" her baby . Such a shit thing to do to place her baby on ruhis lap . Still , ruhis attitude with an infant is obnoxious & uncalled for..she can keep quiet and leave ..but this is the age of shraps and thali peeting no..so ott drama it is m...ruhi has gone to extreme ends in her hatred but abhira is still stuck on her family craving ...you can feel bad for somebody, that's OK , but everyone needs time and space to grieve..., in that case abhira can give her baby to ruhi . Will she do it?

Ruhi is wrong for her hatred, but the story she has proof of, makes the hatred justified. She doesn't know she was driving, she only heard her maasi say she caused the accident that killed her mother. Why should we forgive anyone related to loving Akshara? Would would forgive, let alone love, someone who killed their loving parent?

Abhira didn't give baby to Ruhi because she thinks that's what Ruhi wants, she is giving him to her as a replacement saying he'll call her Matashree, that's the insensitive part. Had she approached this as you are chachi, even if you don't consider yourself maasi, he is here to be with you when you feel ready, I would have agreed she put Ruhi's needs first, but nobody in that family is doing that, nobody is asking her what she wants right now, they are all sure they know best and putting on her. Whether it's her husband who is ok with using her to pop out babies because his Bhabhi would be heartbroken or not able to have kids, whether Armaan who is ok with it because he wants his wife and his dream family, whether Abhira who is "sharing" her baby as mothers with a woman who was just told her baby is dead.

@Cutepigs… sorry for your loss and it defo it quite traumatic to lose / miscarry a kid.. ir sis is lucky to have u!

Agree with chaitu… fiction is different from real…. even if v take these as real or fiction…. I think abhira would have been wrong if she would have snatchef her naby back from ruhi… when ruhi snatchef him from abhira during photo shoot…. I would have considered that as insensitive…. She could have said… don’t touch my kid… u r bad omen…. Mera baby bhi kho jaayega etc etc…, tab to mein abhira ko insensitive maanti….like ruhi did…. During IR…She blamed abhira …. While she was in her mamma ki tummy…. That bsby abhira is the reason for her loss… since she was conceived… everything fell apart…. That’s what is called insensitive…. Yeb bhi when ruhi herself is having a baby in her womb!!!

Yahan yo abhora is trying to b big hearted…. Jaise kisi ka kuch kho jaata hai… friebds try to cheer friends up.., by sharing what u have… ruhi ke mann mein hi mail hai….

Abhira to kabhi pregnant ruhi ke baby ko samaan etc nahi bola… yahan tak ki ruhi ne sbhira ke baby ka sweater destroy kar diya…

Ab she could have easily snatched away her baby… as she knows ruhi always wanted to harm her baby …,fir bhi abhira is showing how big hearted she is….

Originally posted by: Krinya

Abhira was criticized for keeping her pregnancy a secret. She was fainting all over the place acting solo. I will always criticized her for the pregnancy itself .

Ruhi might be careless with her health and driving but inspite of all of that, her baby is alive.if ruhi was careless , that doesn't take away her mother's right.. .

Abhiras baby couldn't make it , it's not abhiras fault . Nobody said it is.

I'll not discuss passing on the injections , it was an itv excuse to show abhira as mahan. If ruhis child is Alive thanks to abhira , that doesn't mean child should be taken frm his mother & handed over to abhira.

The precap scene , well , ruhi hates abhira , that's the narrative . She won't start loving abhira if she "shares" her baby . Such a shit thing to do to place her baby on ruhis lap . Still , ruhis attitude with an infant is obnoxious & uncalled for..she can keep quiet and leave ..but this is the age of shraps and thali peeting no..so ott drama it is m...ruhi has gone to extreme ends in her hatred but abhira is still stuck on her family craving ...you can feel bad for somebody, that's OK , but everyone needs time and space to grieve..., in that case abhira can give her baby to ruhi . Will she do it?

Kya Kare aaj Kal Abhira ko behen chaada chada hai.. All ITV FLs are like her. she even forgot Vidya easily..

Sometimes I feel in this negative world and itv full of toxic characters, it's good to see some positivity. Her character of forgiving anyone so easily makes me start thinking to let things go. Don't hold grudges but sometimes when ppl keep misusing that then we become stupid. That's what happens with Abhira. I do think when ppl hate you give them space, you don't have to be nice always. I hate her sister jaap. No she is not your Pyaari behna who will get happy that you're offering her to be mom again. And less said abt Roohi is better. Calling a baby as "Saaman" when she herself lost it was disgusting. You become mom not when you deliver but when you get pregnant. I had a miscarriage too and when you see other babies you cry , you want to pamper even if it's someone you hate but don't call them Samman. I feel one important thing we should teach our kids is even if we hate someone to core, never take it to kids. They are Gods creature's. And also they will grow up with same hatred which is not good either. I don't even know why ITV promotes such nonsense.

Originally posted by: cutepigs

Being good careful and everything during pregnancy doesn't make you an amazing mother if you don't follow through with parenting, and same for opposite, being insecure jealous negative during pregnancy doesn't make you a horrible mother. That comes only with the upbringing.

Originally posted by: India_TV

@Cutepigs… sorry for your loss and it defo it quite traumatic to lose / miscarry a kid.. ir sis is lucky to have u!

Agree with chaitu… fiction is different from real…. even if v take these as real or fiction…. I think abhira would have been wrong if she would have snatchef her naby back from ruhi… when ruhi snatchef him from abhira during photo shoot…. I would have considered that as insensitive…. She could have said… don’t touch my kid… u r bad omen…. Mera baby bhi kho jaayega etc etc…, tab to mein abhira ko insensitive maanti….like ruhi did…. During IR…She blamed abhira …. While she was in her mamma ki tummy…. That bsby abhira is the reason for her loss… since she was conceived… everything fell apart…. That’s what is called insensitive…. Yeb bhi when ruhi herself is having a baby in her womb!!!

Yahan yo abhora is trying to b big hearted…. Jaise kisi ka kuch kho jaata hai… friebds try to cheer friends up.., by sharing what u have… ruhi ke mann mein hi mail hai….

Abhira to kabhi pregnant ruhi ke baby ko samaan etc nahi bola… yahan tak ki ruhi ne sbhira ke baby ka sweater destroy kar diya…

Ab she could have easily snatched away her baby… as she knows ruhi always wanted to harm her baby …,fir bhi abhira is showing how big hearted she is….

Aapne bahut Acha bola ji. 😊😊 bus Abhira ab Samaj jaaye ki Roohi ussee aur uske kid ho hate hi Karengi aur door rahe

Ho Sakta hai Abhira ko laga baby ko Dekh ke Roohi ka Mann pigal jaaye aur woh thoda better feel Kare but nahi hua

Originally posted by: PeacefulLove

Aapne bahut Acha bola ji. 😊😊 bus Abhira ab Samaj jaaye ki Roohi ussee aur uske kid ho hate hi Karengi aur door rahe

Ho Sakta hai Abhira ko laga baby ko Dekh ke Roohi ka Mann pigal jaaye aur woh thoda better feel Kare but nahi hua

Pata nahi… mujhe yo yeh track… ruhi ke karnaame expose hone wala Lagta hai… 😃😃 in her desperation and guilt. She may expose herself…

Originally posted by: India_TV

Pata nahi… mujhe yo yeh track… ruhi ke karnaame expose hone wala Lagta hai… 😃😃 in her desperation and guilt. She may expose herself…

Makers love her tho forget it 😀😀

Originally posted by: cutepigs

I have been reading so many posts regarding good mother, bad mother, Ruhi would have celebrated Abhira ka pain, Abhira is being Mahaan, and wanted to say something from a personal experience point of view because these all were triggering for me.

My sister lost her baby at 6 months due to medical complications and nearly died herself. She took care of what she ate, wasnt worried about her child, was in fact enjoying the phase. I saw my sister and her husband fight for their baby, bury their baby, mourn his death, and then learn to grow out of it together, as a much stronger couple than they were going into it.

Did being carefree or not constantly worrying about her baby mean she would have been a bad mother and deserved to lose her child? Absolutely not! She is my second mother so I know the amazing mother figure she can be and will be. Ruhi worried about her child's faith and took one bad decision, but that didn't cause Abhira to lose her child, if I read right, he was already gone in womb. No matter the injection's presence. Ruhi being negative and stressed and Abhira taking care of everything she did, doesn't make either of them bad or good mothers, it makes them humans who were worrying about their respective problems and handling them the best they knew how.

As for Abhira giving her bsp, according to her, to Ruhi and saying it will call her Matashree, I am sorry but that's insensitive to a whole different level. She might love her as a her sister, but Ruhi has made it very clear that she hates Abhira for killing her mother and by association, Abhira. Having Abhira's child be the first to call her what she called her mother, is a daily reminder of what she lost, when she was a child and now. Plus, a baby is not a replacement. Ruhi has barely physically recovered, mentally and emotionally she has had no time to process her loss, mourn her loss, and giving her a baby and saying this is the replacement, is not healing her wounds, is reminding her what she has lost. My sister would have a child one day, I am sure she would love that baby to her last breath, doesn't mean she will forget her first born or treat this baby as a replacement, and their she would be saying that to her baby, not the baby of a woman she hates. What Ruhi needs is space to process herself and her loss, not be given a replacement baby, and while I know Abhira hasn't grown with family so won't have seen examples to know it, she remembers her depression when Ruhi was going to have a child and she was told she can't right? How she could be happy in front of everyone but the minute she was aside, she would cry and ask why not her? She wanted her husband to share her pain and would cry. And here because the roles are reversed, she wants Ruhi to be happy for her but not sad for herself? Ruhi calling the baby a samaan, is not wrong. She lost her child, one she grew for 9 months, she is not mentally in a place to comprehend so many things, and you can't just tell her, here, replacement baby to love.

I am not bashing anyone, Abhira, Ruhi, nobody, but yes, seeing Ruhi go through this and people saying she deserved it for being careless or stressed, or it should be bsp because Abhira took her medicines on time, or Abhira being mahaan and giving her baby and saying will call her Matashree is triggering for me because I have been the sister who watched. Sorry if anyone felt bad, but I had to get this out because I feel only for the mother. Everyone else doing whatever they think is right is annoying because nobody is worrying about what that mother wants, just own personal agendas.

Sorry to hear about the loss hope your sister is recovering.

@bold that's not true Abhira didn't want Ruhi to feel happy for her, but she wanted to reduce Ruhi's pain of losing her child. Abhira after hearing about Ruhi's loss had an emotional breakdown on seeing her condition & her empty cradle. Would Abhira who couldn't stop seeing a sister in Ruhi even when she cursed her, be selfish enough to expect Ruhi to feel happy for her instead of being sad for herself? Giving Ruhi the baby was Abhira's way of reducing Ruhi's pain though it's inconsiderate if not insensitive, as she saw Ruhi holding her baby after waking up from coma, addressing him as her baby (according to her perspective).

The loss of child is a lifelong trauma..Mother who lost her child may experience resentment towards other people's children, or on contrary, she may feel a heightened sense of empathy and connection towards other children. Regardless of the possibility of a different outcome, Abhira was inconsiderate and should've given Ruhi time to process the loss and come in terms with it, instead of thinking about reducing Ruhi's pain.

But was Ruhi sensitive towards Abhira's pain? She infact told Abhira "you can't be a mother because of your mother's misdeeds "how can you get pregnant when I was pregnant first"? Regarding Abhira's lack of understanding towards the need of personal space to grieve and to process things, she must be considerate or give people time to heal. Atleast she must stop imposing her love on people who hate her existence or, wished bad for her baby.

Originally posted by: cutepigs

I never said Ruhi wasn't careless, I said her being careless because she knew her baby was a healthy pregnancy doesn't make a horrible mother, same way Abhira following everything closely doesn't make her an amazing mother. I had critiqued Akshara the same way earlier, that she took care of her baby, made him strong, but when it came to teaching him good things, Abhinav and her failed as parents when they called him a bojh toh make him go with Abhimanyu since that made sure Abhir would never accept Abhimanyu with love but only with necessity, which is essentially using him. Being good careful and everything during pregnancy doesn't make you an amazing mother if you don't follow through with parenting, and same for opposite, being insecure jealous negative during pregnancy doesn't make you a horrible mother. That comes only with the upbringing. Even drug addicts clean their act to have their baby and then go back to old habits, making them horrible mothers.

The problem is the confusion between "pregnancy care" and "motherhood" is where my issue is. They are not related to each other. If they were, a women in postpartum would be an amazing mother, which isn't always the case, depending on the severity

Sorry for your loss, hope everyone heals.

Disclaimer: I am talking about FICTION an ITV show, so it has no connection with real life. Different morals for fiction and reality.

Why everyone say pregnant women should be extra careful? Because there is a life inside them and whatever they'll do will directly affect that unborn.

@bold yes I agree behaviour during only pregnancy time is not the only way to judge a mother but it is a one of the parameter by society. When a pregnant lady doesn't act careful people say does she even care about baby or not.

You gave example of Ak, I wanna give one too, she is still called bad mother, kamini, chudail, killer of own child because her carelessness lead to her mc. But then according to your logic she should not be judged. (I am not a gen3 viewer, my comment is based on comments made by those fans every other day)

@ul her pregnancy was healthy no doubt but people are pointing out about the meds she skipped even after doctor advised so and her husband used to give her. And during her delivery doc said her condition is more critical coz she skipped meds. You can drive in healthy pregnancy but that doesn't mean driving at full term in anxious state that too going to visit a baba without informing any family member is ok. Also harbouring negative feelings for another mother and unborn.

Whatever happening currently is unfortunate to both mothers and Ru is also a victim. She deserves to get her son back, her husband is cruel for letting her cry for baby who's alive and deserves appropriate punishment.