Why Tere Naam was not labeled as toxic and problematic? - Page 11

Originally posted by: sharaban

How on earth u have the courage to REWATCH a snooze fest and utterly non engaging Ready again!? 🤔 😳

I watched it just once in theaters and used to sleep/took naps after every 10 to 15 minutes coz this movie was THAT MUCH BORING (same with Dhoom 3 and PATTHAN, took naps so many times during these two as well in the cinema).

It was kinda forced watching. Internet outage in the area due to some servicing forced us to watch TV, and this was the only somewhat watchable thing playing. It was super cringe though - I do not remember it being so lame

Toto muj pe tamatar kyun phenka? khal phenkna tha, so I could have put it in my salad.

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

Rangeela is also a favorite of mine and one of my favorite Aamir movies alongside Raja Hindustani, QSQT, Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke, and Fanaa. Shocked to learn even Rangeela was not characterized as a blockbuster. At least it gets to be a super hit. I'm not surprised to hear though that while it did really well in the big cities, it wasn't as big a film elsewhere because I can imagine some of it was considered ahead of its time especially Urmila's character and looks. This was still the era where taking on a sexy, daring role like this would get you typecast as not a serious actress and willing to do anything onscreen.

Hope u liked Jo jeeta wohi sikandar as well and also dil hai ke manta nahi.. for me these two r the most refreshing films of Amir along with Rangeela.

Speaking of dil hai ke manta nahi, it was also declared semi hit or above average at smaller centres and a clean hit in big cities in those film trade journals , while most people perceive dhkmn as a super hit film..... if BOI starts going back to early 90s film verdicts, it will declare DHKMN a block buster as well.. lol

Yes Rangeela was way ahead of its times, even story telling wise and execution wise as well.

Just watch the song mangta hai kya, the lights and shadows play in it especially in the middle and near the end of the song will make you think as if this song was conceptualized and shot just recently.

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Unrelated to this topic but name wise related though this movie was on streaming this song is cool https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jA3XkD8k8-A&pp=ygUFUmFkaGU%3D

Ready was ATBB by Taran and BB in boi the songs were craze dhink chica aa re n character dheela https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=inyoP885sdk&pp=ygULUmVhZHkgc29uZ3M%3D

Lastly since Radhe tere naam in wanted the same character name into a cop positive role https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g3tpw8OulMk

Originally posted by: sharaban

Hope u liked Jo jeeta wohi sikandar as well and also dil hai ke manta nahi.. for me these two r the most refreshing films of Amir along with Rangeela.

Speaking of dil hai ke manta nahi, it was also declared semi hit or above average at smaller centres and a clean hit in big cities in those film trade journals , while most people perceive dhkmn as a super hit film..... if BOI starts going back to early 90s film verdicts, it will declare DHKMN a block buster as well.. lol

Yes Rangeela was way ahead of its times, even story telling wise and execution wise as well.

Just watch the song mangta hai kya, the lights and shadows play in it especially in the middle and near the end of the song will make you think as if this song was conceptualized and shot just recently.

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I like Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar a lot. Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahi I've actually never heard of. I'll have to check that one out now after all your high praise for it. The Aamir movie I really want to see is Raakh because I've heard that was a very experimental film, especially for the era it came out in, and as Aamir's next film after QSQT.

It's funny how many films we the public perceive to be bigger hits than they actually are. Some of these films take a life of their own after their theatrical period and develop greater followings then. Like I said, I'd never even heard of DHKMN so I wouldn't have guessed that people thought it was a blockbuster. When it comes to 90s movies, most of the films featuring the three Khans that I've seen featured one of the top heroines of the time. Their less popular movies with some of the B-List heroines I'm usually not as familiar with or in this case, haven't even heard of.

Rangeela was very revolutionary in the industry, especially with establishing Manish Malhotra. If anything hurt it, it was being overshadowed by DDLJ. I imagine DDLJ also being perceived as more family friendly was also a factor. And I know some Rangeela detractors who feel there isn't actually much of a romance between Urmila and Aamir, at least from her side.

Each song is a classic though and I agree with you that Mangta Hai Kya especially stands out from the cinematography.

It was pre social media era movie

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Roadside fight mein phatta ho ya bathroom mein pair phisal ke. It is just a cause of a health condition. It is not punishment for stalking, harassing, beating or any other bad deed. People pull this "pichle janam mein kya bure karm kiye honge jo (humare bacche ke saath) aisa hua" to alienate and dehumanise disabled, sick people all the time. I have heard someone say Stephen Hawking got ALS because God punished him for being an atheist. God doesn't punish people with disablity. That line of thought is always ableist even when unintentional.

On this very forum someone agued how Ranbir's character in Animal wasn't glorified because the father he craved attention from died or got terminally sick or something. As if God is sitting above seeing this pos being sexually violent to women and decides to make another person suffer as some form of justice.

I know you didn't mean anything by it but it's just normalised ableism. Makes healthcare access that much more difficult.

On the other hand, Tere Naam was v v popular because songs, bhoy's look was widespread from what little I remember of it. It didn't help that the girl ends up loving him and dying for him.

What is this argument is about if it's one? I never mentioned karma you are reading too much between the lines.

We both agree that both tere naam and animal are toxic garbage.

To each their own I am not as forgiving as you, I believe people (rowdy) who engage in unnecessary violence, harass others, do reckless driving and endanger others, deserves what's coming for them and that's not god's act but the result of their own action (quite literally). I do feel bad for their family who have suffer unnecessarily.

It wasn't considered a big deal and indeed was a desirable character that women used to find normal and adore. Infact, even r*ape jokes were considered funny. Those days, all the traits that are now found toxic were the soul of Bollywood. Twisting the hand of the girl was considered romantic and songs like "athrah baras ki kuwari kali thi".