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Here are a few facts about Uttarakanda.

https://medium.com/@sarvamangalgaurdas.gkg/yes-maharshi-valmiki-only-composed-uttar-kand-in-ramayana-52d08d4ad378

Do we have the list of guests (International) invited for the Praanpratishtha Samaroh??

@Vr15h, thanks for this interaction, and the meaningful discussion.

Does Rama belong to the Ikshvaku dynasty?

Rama, Mahavira, and the Buddha are also stated to have belonged to the Suryavamsha or Ikshvaku dynasty.

What is the bloodline of Rama?

Lord Rama was born in the 81st generation of Ikshvaku Dynasty of Surya Vamsam or Solar Dynasty. This lineage continued for another 64 generations until 1634 BCE, where the last king Sumitra was killed by Chanakya's contemporary Mahapadma Nanda.

What does Ikshvaku Vansh mean?

It's a name of a celebrated ancestor of the solar kings who ruled in Ayodhya . He was the first of the solar kings and was a son of Manu vaivastha. सूर्य वंश का पहला राजा । Lord Rama was also of this dynasty. Ikshvaku vansh- A descendant of lkshvaku. It is a dynasty known as Suryavansh.

Is Rama the descendant of Raghu lineage?

Sri Rama was a descendant of King Raghu and his Vamsha (Surya Vamsha) was also called Raghuvamsha as a lineage of King Raghu. As the head of the Dynasty and King after King Dasharatha, He was also called Ragupathi. He was also called Raghunatha, Raghunandana , Raghveera etc indicating the lineage of King Raghu. Here is the link--

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rama+as+Rahu+vanshaj+or+Ikshvaku+vanshaj%3F%3F&sca_esv=599145432&rlz=1C1PRUI_enIN942IN942&sxsrf=ACQVn0-1MH0zJ97RZcM3fNkampga0qVZIw%3A1705504637640&ei=fe-nZejWJq7g2roPkIOr8Ag&ved=0ahUKEwioidvw2-SDAxUusFYBHZDBCo4Q4dUDCBA&oq=Rama+as+Rahu+vanshaj+or+Ikshvaku+vanshaj%3F%3F&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiKlJhbWEgYXMgUmFodSB2YW5zaGFqIG9yIElrc2h2YWt1IHZhbnNoYWo_PzIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogRIiasBUABYhZUBcAN4AZABAJgB2wagAZUdqgENMC4xLjIuMy4wLjIuMbgBDMgBAPgBAeIDBBgAIEE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Originally posted by: Moonks

Do we have the list of guests (International) invited for the Praanpratishtha Samaroh??

No.

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Shakambhari Navratri starts from 18th Jan 2024.

Devi Shakti will bless Pran Pratishtha on 22nd Jan.

Ram had worshipped Devi before starting war with Ravan.

Shakambhari Purnima is also considered as Goddess Sidhhilakshmi Jayanti, who is also known as, "Purna Chandi". Durga Saptashati's Devi Durga is "Laghu Chandi".

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Originally posted by: Vr15h

Just 6 Kandas. Uttarkand was clearly not written by Maharshi Valmiki: it was probably a separate Purana appended later. Also, Tulsidas ends it at LankaKand: there is no UttarKand in his either. The last paragraph here contradicts the 4th.

Also, Shri Ram was from the Ikshvaku dynasty. Raghu was a very recent ancestor - in fact, the grandfather of Maharaj Dasharath. So the dynasty wasn't called Raghuvansh until very recently. In Janakpuri, before the wedding, when Dasharath & Janak exchanged the gotra details, Dasharath included everything from Ikshvaku thru Trishanku thru Harishchandra thru Sagar thru Bhagirath thru Dileep thru Raghu thru Aja (Dasharath's father)

I have also heard that some Uttarkand stories contradicts the ayodhya and yudha kand, can you give any info about that?

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

A few well-known facts about Ramayan--

The first word of every shloka combined makes the Gayatri Mantra:

Do you know that Ramayan contains 24000 shlokas and the Gayatri Mantra has 24 words? So after every one thousand shlokas, the first word of the shloka combined makes the whole Gayatri Mantra!

(For more information: https://medium.com/@The_Light_Lamp_/unknown-facts-about-ramayan-b52b0810556c)

In its extant form, Valmiki's Ramayana is an epic poem containing over 24,000 couplets [verses] and about 500 sargas divided into seven Kandas [chapters] – Balakanda, Ayodhyakanda, Aranyakanda, Kishkinda kanda, Sundara kanda, Yuddha kanda and Uttara kanda. Ramcharitmanas is composed of seven chapters, with just one difference: Tulsidas changed Yuddha kanda to Lanka Kand.

https://www.templepurohit.com/7-kandas-ramayana/

https://in.search.yahoo.com/search?p=few+facts+about+Ramayan&ei=UTF-8&fr=crmas&fr2=intlr&ei=UTF-8

How many Ramayanas are there in total?

Depending on the methods of counting, as many as 300 [three hundred] versions of the Ramayana are there. The oldest version is generally recognized to be the Sanskrit version attributed to the sage Narada, the Mula Ramayana.

Maharshi Valmiki is revered as Adi Kavi, the first poet and author of the Ramayana, the first epic poem. While Valmiki's version is recognised as the original one, over 300 Ramayana versions are available, especially in Southeast Asia. Around the 12th and 13th centuries, the region received and imbibed many of the cultural traits, along with goods and services, travelling from Indian shores!

Where is the original Ramayana kept?

The Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute (BORI), has all the existing copies of the Mahabharatha and Ramayana and is currently in the process of translating the epics.

What was the surname of RAM?

Shri Ram belongs to the Kshatriya caste and follows the Suryawanshi clan as well as Raghuwansh, followed by his ancestor Raghu. So it is the Raghuvanshi dynasty, as he is the descendant of King Raghu.

RAM SETU:

The bridge has the same starting and ending points mentioned in Ramayan. While some argue that it's a natural formation, the carbon dating of the bridge revealed it to be approximately 7000 years old, aligning with the time of the Ramayana, as indicated by NASA.

Which language did Hanuman speak?

He was revered as a scholar and a great poet. When Hanuman spoke, Rama complimented him on his speech, pointing out that the details and grammar showed they were speaking Sanskrit.

Is Uttara Kand part of Valmiki Ramayana?

Uttara Kand is later interpolated. Not the part of Valmiki Ramayan. Anyone desiring polemics against Shri Ram should know this as a statement. Nothing but Valmiki Ramayan is seen as authority, should one wish to talk of Shri Ram as a historic figure.

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Important events in Rama's life span on earth:

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Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Scholarly disagreement surrounds who wrote the last book of the Ramayana, the Uttara Kanda. Some research scholars think it was subsequently interpolated and that it was not written by Valmiki, the original author. Scholars studying ancient Indian literature are still debating this argument.

One fascinating fact is that, after Lakshman abandoned Janaki in the wilderness, Valmiki came to her rescue.

He has brought her to his ashram and made all the necessary arrangements for her delivery. Subsequently, he trained the twins, Luv and Kush to be formidable fighters by teaching them everything.

While joining the Ashwamedha Yajna horse, Lakshman, Bharath, and Sathrughn were confronted by these kids. Eventually, Rama arrived to rescue his Yaga Ashva and engaged in combat with the children. At last, Sage Valmiki proclaimed that they are RaghuVanshi Ram, i.e, Ikshvaku King's heirs!

Thus, it's conceivable that Uttarakand was added by the sage Valmiki to the earlier version of the Ramayan.

But at the same time, it is possible that it was added to the Ramayana much later, not by Valmiki but by some other writers. It is a debatable topic.

I have watched a few presentations from people who've argued that Uttar Ramayan was not written by Valmiki. Although I don't even know Sanskrit - much less a scholar - some facts that I've tossed in my mind convince me that the Uttar Ramayan is a fabrication of Kalyug authors, & not a Valmiki original, based on a theological reason. The key telltale for me here was the circumstances of Lakshman's passing.

In Balkand, we are told that all the 4 brothers - Rama, Lakshman, Bharat & Shatrughan - were avatars of Vishnu himself courtesy that payash: there was no Lakshman as Sesha-nag, Shatrughan as Sudarshan-chakra or Bharat as Panchajanya (All that seems to originate in Adhyatma Ramayana). In other words, all of them were Vishnu while they were there in life. Now, at the end of Uttarkand, when the devas want VIshnu to return, they send Kal - the god of time & death - to visit Rama, and request him to return. Kal puts a condition that nobody else should see him, and if he did, he should be put to death.

Now, reason Kal would have put this condition was that no mortal should be able to see him, and only reason he's seeing Rama was that he was Vishnu. But so was Lakshman, so Kal wouldn't have had a problem w/ any of the brothers - Lakshman, Bharat or Shatrughan - seeing him. Any of those 4 seeing him still meant that Kal would only have been seen by Vishnu, which would have been fine by him. So Valmiki, having written that all 4 brothers were the avatars of VIshnu, could not have written that Kal would have been angered by Lakshman's appearance.

Another thing that struck me, which somehow seems to have been uncommented on by people: had Valmiki, the same person who described Ayodhya glowingly to a "t", included a chapter on Rama's rule there, then that would have been the chapter called "Ayodhya kand": Kand 2 would have been called something else, maybe "Yuvraj Kand" (since it was about who was to be Dasharath's successor). Why? B'cos he describes Ayodhya as the greatest city ever, & then he praised Shri Rama particularly in Yudhyakand. So had he included a chapter where Shri Rama ruled Ayodhya, that would likely have been the one called "Ayodhyakand".

Aside from this, there is too much of stuff in Uttarkand that makes it untenable as a part of the Valmiki Ramayan. I won't comment on the writing style differences b/w the first 6 kandas and "Uttarkand", since I don't know Sanskrit. Then there are other things: immediately after being crowned, Rama, rather than catching up w/ his family & subjects on what's been going on in Ayodhya for 14 years, sits down to hear the entire histories of Ravan, Vali, Hanuman, et al. Then there is the Shambhuk story where Rama gets the Pushpak, which he had returned to Kubera, to go & find Shambhuk, and also, despite Bharat being the yuvraj, he asks Lakshman to manage Ayodhya while he is out. Also, in kands 1-6, there's not much written about miracles, but in "Uttarkand", there is that weird story about a talking dog who appears in Rama's court and tells him that he was the "Kalapati of Kalanjar" and the circumstances under which he became a dog. Also, in Yudhyakand, Rama decides to give the kingdom to Vibheeshan, rather than massacre even all the rakshashas. In sharp contrast, in Uttar Ramayan, Bharat uses a Kaalastra to wipe out the entire Gandharva race so that his sons can rule over Gandhara. The same Bharat who rejected the kingdom of Ayodhya that Kaikeyi obtained for him from her 2 boons

Some of the other things you mentioned above - be it Lakshman abandoning Sita, Kush-Luv battling their uncles - are not there in the script passed around as "Uttarkand". There, the reason Lakshman takes Sita to Valmiki was that she expressed to Rama the desire to visit some rishis, & while they were there w/ Valmiki, Lakshman explained to Sita Rama's decision to exile her. As for the Ashwamedha yagna, it was Lakshman who led the horse around from kingdom to kingdom, & it went off incident free: even Kush/Luv did not intercept the horse. This story about Kush/Luv intercepting the horse & defeating all of them is a Krittivas original. He's also the poet who had the dhobi story that became so viral

Given all of these inconsistencies, it's safe to conclude that Uttar Ramayan is not a kand that Valmiki wrote, and therefore, it's more likely than not that Sita was never exiled, Lakshman was not disowned & so on. Unfortunately, all the atrocity literature from the likes of Ananda, Bhavabhuti, Kalidasa, Krittivas & others left people w/ a very distorted view of Shri Rama

Originally posted by: RamAayeHain

I have also heard that some Uttarkand stories contradicts the ayodhya and yudha kand, can you give any info about that?

See my above post.

One glaring example is when Sita goes underground. In Yudhyakand, it's Agni who kept Sita safe from any harm, but in Uttarkand, Rama tells Valmiki that it was Mahindra i.e. Indra. Such a contradiction couldn't have been written by the same person, particularly someone who was getting his information from Mata Saraswati

Also fun fact: in Balkand, there is no mention that Kush/Luv, the 2 kids who sing the Ramayan, are sons of Sita. They may have been, but it's not something one gets from reading just that kanda