Originally posted by: pathaka
Those sorta or mysoginistic “women deserve punishment” crappy tweets and memes happen literally on all movies …. like gehraaiyan (when Ananya was pushed off the boat by sid), Rocky rani (yep when rani rejects Rocky and he cries in the corner blaming girls with his grandpa …that was tweeted abt aswell)….even the family man (the whole Samantha fiasco, and they didn’t show anything in an inciting light at all, they showed abuse and even that was taken out context and some ppl said “she deserved this” when the guy was slapping her and enjoying it )
And yes even baahubali….several tweets claim devasena and her motormouth was the cause of all misery in baahubalis life and antagonise her too…
Shitty people(mysoginists) find validation for their shitty behavior in unproblematic films and situations and depictions aswell…do you really think they care abt the messaging / context if their mind is this crappy to begin with? Does showing the bad guy die in the end or suffer consequences really make any difference to their behavior? Nope ….they can even spin capital punishment or death out of context as if they are matyrs dying for a noble cause …(most stalker suicide threatening aashiqs have this thought process)
Those guys when identified , need to be sent to seek psychiatric help …and/or kept away from the society via some form of punishment
Expecting film makers to curb themselves towards a political correctness and take on the responsibility of such people, is a lost cause imo….
Oh no, you misunderstand. I'm nowhere saying it's the filmmakers responsibility to make goody movies to guide audiences in morally righteous path. I just don't believe Vanga actually does what he does in his movies to drive the story forward and be that as a key element in his storytelling. He does it for the shock value, attention, and for the movie to be talked about precisely the way we're doing now. He's got a God complex about his filmmaking and really believes that he's some mixture of Francis Coppola and Scorsese who's come to show the audience violence and torture just as retribution for panning his earlier AR/KS critically. You just have to watch his interviews to see that he does it out of spite, not because the story requires so. As I said he wants to position himself as the director who does gore, violence, torture and he would only make worse movies in terms of violence to elevate and drive that point home. He may be technically proficient with cinematography and what not, and good for him, but that shouldn't absolve him from the lack of a coherent story or screenplay lol.
You can't hold directors responsible for the lack of conscience among people, after all art imitates reality. GOW had violence, Ugly had depraved people, American Psycho is lauded for its story telling and social commentary (Bateman doesn't face any consequences), Nightcrawler not only has the sociopathic protagonist get off scot free but he goes on to thrive with a business venture; all this movies dealt with their main characters without elevating them to alpha males wronged by society. Their actions were never given credence of being morally upright, and never glorified. Besides there was political and social commentary as to why something is so. AR/KS and most likely Animal (far from what is seen) only elevates the alpha male, the females embrace the toxicity and the director and actors actually go on to preach how relationships should involve physical violence off screen. Penn Badgley of You literally admonishes his own character offscreen and calls out anyone calling Joe something positive, even though you see a backstory as to why Joe is the way he is (childhood abuse, trauma). Hey, bad guys win all the time. Countless movies have made this point before. Vanga is not inventing some new cinematic trope here. But there is a way characters are written, portrayed, shown without sensationalizing and glorifying.
People be peopling anyway. Peeps even demonise Skyler from BB that she didn't let Walter be a drug kingpin 
, so do I now call out Vince Gilligan for this? No. He made his intentions with Walter White very clear. He's shown him to be a morally weak, egoistic man, and above all a man who does what he does because he wanted to feel good about himself. Same goes for BCS. Mindhunter literally has many serial killers being showcased with their real confessions being played but it never sensationalized stuff like how Dahmer on Netflix did. There was outrage for Dahmer but not for Mindhunter. Why?
I'm not asking directors to curtail their FOE with regards to films but rather questioning Vanga's intentions for misplaced violence, misogyny, and toxic relationships. At the end of the day, there is a responsible way to show even violence and toxic relationships in movies without curbing artistic freedom. Vanga doesn't have that. When a director who doesn't have that skill makes films, he only glorifies and enables that behaviour. That is my only point.
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