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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Eternalallure

I kind of knew this would happen. I wouldn't be surprised if Viaan spilled something himself to take katha awaysmiley37 maybe to show the bedroom where he has their photo hung on the wall. To Aarav's bedroom where which is exactly the same as before. He has made a kind of shrine for them in his home. Katha will be bombarded with memoriessmiley37


It would also have been their first diwali after marriagesmiley13

Viaan was sitting at the end of the couch quiet distant from Katha when she spilled the liquid.Raghav was helping Katha.Aab Babaji (according to Pranav -Babaji ka ishara) chahta hai ki Katha Viaan ke room mein jaye toh bechara kya karein....waise Teji ki room mein bhi ja sakta thasmiley36
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: _OrChiD_


Because she thinks she is doing for brat and die with 'mein abhi bhi Viaan ki huu', she think she will be true to herself. Viaan doesn't know her dealsmiley36


But she isn't realizing she is giving wrong signals in a hurry to stop Viaan and she still isn't realizing Dr soon will suggest same room. smiley36

Yeh mujhey na samajh mein nahi aayi...saar ke upar se nikal gayismiley36How will shutting up Viaan for telling the truth serve the deal??smiley6

I felt that she is not brave enough to face the harsh truth which Viaan is trying to say and so stopped him in the middle by shouting.Somewhere she knows that she is doing a grave mistake by playing with Raghav's emotions but won't accept it.Aaj jo bhi bolo....Raghav's dream.and his wish to stay with Katha life long made me feel for him.He doesn't deserve this yaar!! Even Ehsaam was worried if it would be fair to bring Katha from Raghav's life as it would break him.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: divine_16

Yeh mujhey na samajh mein nahi aayi...saar ke upar se nikal gayismiley36How will shutting up Viaan for telling the truth serve the deal??smiley6

I felt that she is not brave enough to face the harsh truth which Viaan is trying to say and so stopped him in the middle by shouting.Somewhere she knows that she is doing a grave mistake by playing with Raghav's emotions but won't accept it.Aaj jo bhi bolo....Raghav's dream.and his wish to stay with Katha life long made me feel for him.He doesn't deserve this yaar!! Even Ehsaam was worried if it would be fair to bring Katha from Raghav's life as it would break him.


Who suggested marriage idea for kids - it's woh.

Who suggested moving in same home - woh

Who keep talking about love even when she was clearly entered into deal for kids - woh

Who keep pushing love for Kath by doing Meri katha monument of love, die together, quarrel with me nonsense - woh


He is already started to making her guilty even when he put the idea into her head.


They aren't even married why Ehsaan even talking about breaking someones home? Ehsaan isn't in right mind now.


I am with Vanya, Ghar vasa bhi nahi hai USS Ghar ki itni tension but Viaan ka toh Ghar bachh chuka tha and accepted her as wife.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: _OrChiD_


Who suggested marriage idea for kids - it's woh.

Who suggested moving in same home - woh

Who keep talking about love even when she was clearly entered into deal for kids - woh

Who keep pushing love for Kath by doing Meri katha monument of love, die together, quarrel with me nonsense - woh


He is already started to making her guilty even when he put the idea into her head.


They aren't even married why Ehsaan even talking about breaking someones home? Ehsaan isn't in right mind now.


I am with Vanya, Ghar vasa bhi nahi hai USS Ghar ki itni tension but Viaan ka toh Ghar bachh chuka tha and accepted her as wife.

I know that Raghav suggested these things but the man is in love and how won't he want all these??Katha should feel guilty not bcoz Raghav it's dreaming and thinking of these things with her but rather she is continuously lying and hiding which is a form of cheating .And she knows that she is doing a grave mistake and so isn't able to face Viaan's direct on the face questions about feelings of Raghav.

I feel Ehsaan was right in saying about hurting Raghav's feelings and even Viaan feels so.But I would agree that other things he is saying is contradictory.He says that he knows Katha will love Viaan all life-long then how could he say that Katha is happy with Raghav?? Just in the initial episodes he was so doubtful about Katha-Viaan relationship and used to say Katha won't agree to their relationship...the same thing he is saying now. He is quiet apprehensive about their relationship to again take off.

Vanya's and Viaan's thoughts are on the same track. And I loved when she said that if Katha is even 1% not happy in the relationship with Raghav then it's better that their relationship breaks.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Neutral2

@green, not agree. Compare to physical illness (cancer) which was further destroying Aarav with time (2 year), mental illness is opposite. With time it is improving. Even before meeting with Raghav, Aarav was recovered from shock.

Aarav was dying when rejected prioritizing her case in NGO. I can't believe Katha is treating marriage like a job where her only job is to handle Raghav's daughter. Raghav doesn't meant anything to her.

Viaan said the right, does she even like Raghav. I also don't like his character sketch. He is Sasta version of Eshan + Viaan. Check Adi character. There is not much scene but still you can find him more beautiful than all the male character in the show.

@red, I don't agree with his manipulative speech. His only aim is to get Katha and he did many time. First remind her of Dubai project to manipulate her to stay in Earthcon now this.


TLDR/SUMMARY

Some of Katha's action have no justification just like Viaan's ONS offer has no justification. However, there is a reason her character became like this which I wrote in this post if you can make it through. It is very similar to how Viaan had a reasoning for testing Katha although it was lame but, it was a reason. Read the quote block below


A lot of things in this show are convoluted right now and needs clarification so, can't state firmly about everything but, will be specific with my rant which is the lines in bold. I wanted to do this rant but, it took time So, this reply isn't specifically to you, I wanted to do this as a general post but, this may answer your questions/disagreements so, decided to post this as a reply as some parts are specific reply to your reply.


I agree with the rest. I agree with you disagreements as well. Yes, I was wrong about Viaan, just saw the episode properly (didn't watch today's).


From the very beginning, I found Katha to be very stupid in the regards to money collection as it was portrayed by the writers. I found weird that she rejected Aniruddha's offer because its no from Earthcon, its her morality. Later, writers revealed all the legal repercussion things associated with accepting this offer. So, I ignored it like WhAtEvEr, maybe she thought about legalities and it wasn't shown on screen. They only showed the morality part because audiences will like a character more whose morality is above everything else. If they showed Katha taking bribe from Aniruddha, all of a sudden audience's morality and will wake up because a character thought humanly and made a human action .


Now, coming to NGO, Katha won't be the first one to be skipping lines through NGO. All who seek NGO aren't poor, most of them are middle class as well who can't afford the expensive treatment of cancer. Many bribe NGOs but, it rarely works. Most of the times, NGO lacks funds and NGO isn't gonna randomly distribute crores to random children. If Aarav's case is sensitive so will be the case of a fully grown 22 year old man who is suffering from the same disease. Practically speaking, If I had a crore to give for a treatment which actually completely heals this terminal disease (no severe complication left afterwards), I will save 22 year old man. He is young, a lot might have been invested into his upbringing and education, It will all go to waste. Also , 22 years of memory vs 8 years of memory, I would like to save 22 years of memories. So, I found nothing wrong from her from backing out from NGO. Whose sob story NGOs are goona listen to, they have plenty and more gruesome stories to listen than that of Aarav. Her backing out of NGO was completely practical. I remember, she said something like that my Aarav's case is just a file for them and there are countless more files waiting in there. But, makers had to again show - look how morally good our FL is, she is thinking about others . Unfortunately if they don't show it like this, people aren't going to sympathise with her. They have to mould her otherwise practical decision into morality display. Although, there was nothing wrong in trying to prioritize her file in NGO to only see it fail because of the reasons she said.


Unfortunately, truth is that audiences love to see the ML or FL with moral high ground although, to get out of a terrible situation, they will give human solutions but, once those human solutions are executed which makes them abandon their moral grounds, they will immediately bash them. This is the truth and that's why all the ITV shows have doormat ML/FL who have insanely unrealistic moral high grounds. I would apologize that I used the word audience which is a generalizing term but, this doesn't include all audiences and not specific to this show. Right now there is much more wrong with Katha than just this.


Now, question is that why Katha broke in 5 months compared to the 2 years. I Don't know. Breaking points are indeterminate. If I hammer a Iron rod, continuously, I can't predict if it will break when I hammer it again or not. This tragedy became her breaking point. And, this was the second breaking point of her we saw. The first breaking point was breaking point of her moral grounds when she accepted the ONS offer. This time, it was breaking point of her optimism and hope from destiny.


One logic, which supports this is to do a simple comparison. During the two years period of Aarav's treatment :

1. She had hope because a treatment could completely cure Aarav. This is the biggest point because if after treatment Aarav would have been still ailing then, what was the point of even trying.

2. Constant consoling by Rewa and others. Her family was not there for her.

3. Aarav still had that magic which made Katha overcome the pain of losing her love - Adi.


In this 5 months period :

1. No hope or treatment can revert or change the truth which came in public.

2. Her family was not there for her yet again neither Viaan was there, Neerja gone, Rewa gone, guni maa is not the best.

3. She was on verge of losing a perfect child, her magic this time to mental trauma. Also, if Aarav was behaving like that, there is no doubt he would have tried to inflict self harm. There are a lot of possibilities. Also, her love Viaan was gone for a long time and she was unable to do anything to get him out.


Unlike last time, where her optimism paid off, not in the nicest way but, her optimism paid off and Aarav was saved. This time, all her optimism and hopes were shattered in most brutal way possible. Out of nowhere dark night which was barely mentioned came out at the end moment and it shattered everything. Her being pessimistic and irrational and her character assassination makes sense. Her decisions, although wrong, feel human and realistic no matter how you see it.



TLDR/SUMMARY

Some of Katha's action have no justification just like Viaan's ONS offer has no justification. However, there is a reason her character became like this which I wrote in this post if you can make it through. It is very similar to how Viaan had a reasoning for testing Katha although it was lame but, it was a reason.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: divine_16

I know that Raghav suggested these things but the man is in love and how won't he want all these??Katha should feel guilty not bcoz Raghav it's dreaming and thinking of these things with her but rather she is continuously lying and hiding which is a form of cheating .And she knows that she is doing a grave mistake and so isn't able to face Viaan's direct on the face questions about feelings of Raghav.

I feel Ehsaan was right in saying about hurting Raghav's feelings and even Viaan feels so.But I would agree that other things he is saying is contradictory.He says that he knows Katha will love Viaan all life-long then how could he say that Katha is happy with Raghav?? Just in the initial episodes he was so doubtful about Katha-Viaan relationship and used to say Katha won't agree to their relationship...the same thing he is saying now. He is quiet apprehensive about their relationship to again take off.

Vanya's and Viaan's thoughts are on the same track. And I loved when she said that if Katha is even 1% not happy in the relationship with Raghav then it's better that their relationship breaks.


She clearly doesn't even like him, doing normal staff for them to live, then why to push and doing it desperately? Why not just go with flow if he is really a good man? Trying to get attention in every minute, he doesn't leave one chance.


Katha is doing so much blunder that his those wrong desperation gets free pass. He is manipulative.


Ehsan thinks about everyone but not even putting 1% effort to make his friend happy. He just keep telling move on like radio, vaii ask your Naya Naya friend Katha why didn't she wait when he even informed her and what was her majboori?

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: _OrChiD_


She clearly doesn't even like him, doing normal staff for them to live, then why to push and doing it desperately? Why not just go with flow if he is really a good man? Trying to get attention in every minute, he doesn't leave one chance.


Katha is doing so much blunder that his those wrong desperation gets free pass. He is manipulative.


Ehsan thinks about everyone but not even putting 1% effort to make his friend happy. He just keep telling move on like radio, vaii ask your Naya Naya friend Katha why didn't she wait when he even informed her and what was her majboori?

I'm still not against Raghav and I feel banda is too much excited about his relationship with Katha. May be after separating from his wife...getting the pain and now wants to fully enjoy and give into everything for this second chance in his life.He doesn't still look desperate to me nahi toh he wouldn't have told Katha to wait for the marraige and even the engagement date was fixed by Katha .She was in a rush to do so.But let's see....what makers are going too do with this character.

This is what surprises me....he is too much bothered about Katha but doesn't try to understand Viaan's intention.I know he is a friend to Katha and is trying to see things of both Katha-Viaan as a neutral viewer but somewhere it makes me feel he is not even trying to understand Viaan and why he is taking such steps.Ehsaan knows that Katha will love Viaan for life then I hope for once he asks her the question why she didn't for once go and meet Viaan in jail??

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: _OrChiD_


If they manage to get extension then Viaan will give up when Katha will come back and reject her. She will have to work to get back. Track is heading towards Kathas break down and Viaans give up.

Hayeee!! how much I want this to happen.She needs to face rejection so that she values Viaan more....that pain of rejection will make her realise hpw Viaan felt whenever she shouted at him to go away from her life.

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